Well free plays that push at bookmaker are not really pushes afterall!

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  • playersonly69
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-04-08
    • 12827

    #1
    Well free plays that push at bookmaker are not really pushes afterall!
    Maybe this will help others not make the same mistake that I made today. Ok, I was stupid to play a free play on a play that had any chance of pushing, I will admit that. Normally I would pick a 2 or 3 team parlay, but I made a mistake in reading the line


    But I had seen a line of 10.5 points at another book so when I went to bet under 10.5 points for the first quarter at bookmaker, I bet a $96 freeplay on it. Later I noticed that it was graded and this noticed that it was indeed under 10 points!

    Well at bookmaker, a tie is apparently a loss! I wasnt aware of that or obviously I would never have thought about taking a bet that could possibily tie. I know that BetJamaica and I believe betphoenix will refund your freeplay on a tie.

    But bookmaker wont do that since I called and asked about this issue! Oh well, maybe my stupidity can help other posters here not make the same mistake.
  • Grandmaster B
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-05-09
    • 6035

    #2
    good info here
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    • tltaylor89
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-19-09
      • 19610

      #3
      you need to fill out a complaint form
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      • playersonly69
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-04-08
        • 12827

        #4
        Nah, my fault for not reading the rules I guess!


        But HOPEFULLY no one else ever makes the same mistake that I did!


        I really thought that the line was 10.5, so that was my fault for not checking out the line very closely
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        • StraitShooter
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-22-09
          • 10464

          #5
          Yeah although they have an ok bonus point incentive program..this lame ass rule has been in place for years..on free plays..a tie is a loss..I never could understand it..BetPheonix gives you the free play money back asap after a tie..BetPheonix pays much faster..BetPheonix offers just as many betting options as BookMaker..which has more than the average book

          I have always liked BookMaker..But damned if BetPheonix aint creeping up fast

          Christmas bonus from BookMaker?..Bah humbug

          My favorite book is 5 Dimes..I am gonna reup at two joints this week because I lose every fuken thing I touch this week..Nev and Tenn ML freshest two travesties..for cryin out loud..never even in the damn games

          I think I will send the two deposits to 5 Dimes and BetPheonix when I stand in that sucker`s line at the money gram joint tomorrow
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          • THE PROFIT
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-27-09
            • 17701

            #6
            On parlays its pretty common for a tie to kill it. Every place has different rules though.
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            • tltaylor89
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-19-09
              • 19610

              #7
              [quote=StraitShooter;2814792]Yeah although they have an ok bonus point incentive program..this lame ass rule has been in place for years..on free plays..a tie is a loss..I never could understand it..BetPheonix gives you the free play money back asap after a tie..BetPheonix pays much faster..BetPheonix offers just as many betting options as BookMaker..which has more than the average book

              I have always liked BookMaker..But damned if BetPheonix aint creeping up fast

              Christmas bonus from BookMaker?..Bah humbug

              My favorite book is 5 Dimes..I am gonna reup at two joints this week because I lose every fuken thing I touch this week..Nev and Tenn ML freshest two travesties..for cryin out loud..never even in the damn games

              I think I will send the two deposits to 5 Dimes and BetPheonix when I stand in that sucker`s line at the money gram joint tomorrow[/quote lol Bookmaker wants 300 bucks for a measly 100 dollar bonus come on
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              • LLXC
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-10-06
                • 8972

                #8
                I agree - it's a shitty rule...you basically have to buy the hook to be sure. =|
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                • BurtRapp
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-10-08
                  • 2410

                  #9
                  No ties do not kill a parlay anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 For them to take a push should warrant a C grade immediately. How in the phukkin world can they take a push. WHAT A JOKE THIS BOOK IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are willing to take it too???
                  Advertising dollars go a long way here in grading.
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                  • StraitShooter
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-22-09
                    • 10464

                    #10
                    Hey Talyor

                    I`m not a bonus whore myself anyways

                    My #1 priority-I want my money..I want my damn money now!

                    Pheonix-Rebate-5 Dimes and BetAllSports ( wagerstreet division) have paid out pretty damn quick last two weeks

                    BetJam and Greek solid as a rock too

                    Bookmaker put me on hold for 2 weeks and acted like they were doing me a favor on a 200 dollar payout
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                    • StraitShooter
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-22-09
                      • 10464

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BurtRapp
                      No ties do not kill a parlay anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 For them to take a push should warrant a C grade immediately. How in the phukkin world can they take a push. WHAT A JOKE THIS BOOK IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are willing to take it too???
                      Advertising dollars go a long way here in grading.
                      I agree BookMaker, Cris and Diamond one of the few to do this..If not the only ones

                      I asked Mr shrink to ask Mickey why on the radio show but he avoided the question
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                      • hhsilver
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-07-07
                        • 7379

                        #12
                        Thanks for that info....it's hard to believe they would be so petty.
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                        • Reload
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-23-08
                          • 12250

                          #13
                          It's been a rule for a long time on their free plays.
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                          • Spanks
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-12-07
                            • 2040

                            #14
                            and no christmas bonus...
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                            • playersonly69
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-04-08
                              • 12827

                              #15
                              Well they wont be getting any more money from me! Hell I have probably deposited over $15,000 at their book in the last 3 years and took a few payouts but not many.


                              I have learned my lesson
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                              • exstatman
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-02-06
                                • 1060

                                #16
                                I permanently closed my account over this issue.
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                                • playersonly69
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-04-08
                                  • 12827

                                  #17
                                  Is DSI associated with bookmaker? I was actually going to open an account with them and deposit next week. But I wont over this shit.

                                  AGAIN, it is my fault! I should have read the rules.

                                  betphoenix and betjamaica are the books to trust
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                                  • MBENZ
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-07-07
                                    • 5238

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by playersonly69
                                    Is DSI associated with bookmaker? I was actually going to open an account with them and deposit next week. But I wont over this shit.

                                    AGAIN, it is my fault! I should have read the rules.

                                    betphoenix and betjamaica are the books to trust
                                    Cris is the parent company.
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                                    • sinkhole
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 05-30-09
                                      • 116

                                      #19
                                      lost my $500 freeplay on a push...
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                                      • Stumpage
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-21-05
                                        • 2906

                                        #20
                                        This comes from the same family of books that charges hundreds to make a book to book transfer, so I'm not surprised in the least.....
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                                        • JoeVig
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-11-08
                                          • 772

                                          #21
                                          That's why I really try to play my FP bets on moneyline games (aware of the odds limits). No ties to worry about.
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                                          • blackbart
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-04-07
                                            • 3837

                                            #22
                                            stick to parlays with fp
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                                            • Reload
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-23-08
                                              • 12250

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JoeVig
                                              That's why I really try to play my FP bets on moneyline games (aware of the odds limits). No ties to worry about.
                                              That's what I do as well, Joe. Best way to use free play funds at any book really.

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                                              • Philavanh
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-18-06
                                                • 2800

                                                #24
                                                Thanks for heads up
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                                                • dbnmln
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-30-07
                                                  • 804

                                                  #25
                                                  how's the payouts at bookmaker?
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                                                  • playersonly69
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-04-08
                                                    • 12827

                                                    #26
                                                    Payout generally take around 7 days for a small payout of like $1500. Not sure how long it takes for bigger payouts.


                                                    But maybe this will help others not make the same mistake that I did. I wish that I had read a thread like this about 4 days ago
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                                                    • StraitShooter
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-22-09
                                                      • 10464

                                                      #27
                                                      Surprised you did not know this years ago PO

                                                      I still like this place..I feel moneys safe there..just certain rules not in players favor

                                                      payouts slower than most..but sure

                                                      customer service agents have shown un provoked aggression in the past too
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                                                      • Doug
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 6324

                                                        #28
                                                        You should be doing 3 team parlays or dogs ML with the freeplay, anyway. PO refuses to get the math behind taking long odds on free bets, +600 or so works well enough for me, but don't take -110 stuff.
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                                                        • BadBeatBodog
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-05-08
                                                          • 1006

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Stumpage
                                                          This comes from the same family of books that charges hundreds to make a book to book transfer, so I'm not surprised in the least.....
                                                          This x100000. Their CS is bad too. But if you bet openers you don't have much of a choice.
                                                          "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                          "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                          • treece
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-28-07
                                                            • 6298

                                                            #30
                                                            Bookmaker is the most overated shop there is.
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                                                            • Doug
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 6324

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by treece
                                                              Bookmaker is the most overated shop there is.

                                                              I agree, mainly for transfer fees, that are too harsh !
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