Best blackjack strategy (counting cards)

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  • tyler36
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-25-08
    • 426

    #1
    Best blackjack strategy (counting cards)
    Which would you consider the better way to do it, have been studying them for awhile just curious as to any thoughts.

    Hi-lo
    Hi-Op I
    Hi-Op II
    Omega II
  • freeVICK
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-21-08
    • 7114

    #2
    huh???

    if you don't count like 99% of the world, here is the bet blackjack strategy you will
    ever find. NEVER give yourself a chance to bust. ex.. dealer shows 10 and you have 13... stand. I only play this way at an empty table cuz people will probably kill me, but it works
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    • Masu485
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-14-08
      • 7700

      #3
      what the helll? if you stand on 13 when the dealer has 10, there's almost no way for u to win.
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      • Boner_18
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-24-08
        • 8301

        #4
        Without counting if the dealer shows 10 you hit till pat, even on your 16.
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        • Justin7
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-31-06
          • 8577

          #5
          I have used Hi-Lo and AO2. Just about any counting strategy will work, as long as you do it correctly. Practice about 40 hours before doing it in a casino... Only thing worse than gambling in a casino is thinking you have an edge when you have none.
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          • Johnny 55
            Restricted User
            • 05-16-09
            • 1079

            #6
            Keep it simple. Hi-Lo is the best because it is the easiest to remember. Dont try to count in a casino until you have not only practiced for at least 40 hours but also understand the basic strategy variations when in a plus or minus count, an often overlooked concept which is very important, Another major thing, understand money management, you will get a 2-4% advantage at most and understand how to manage what you are doing. It is very easy to go broke when you have highly positive counts if you overbet. Understant the concept of utility. If you have a bet that will win 60% of the time, but you only have $1000 to your name, betting $600 is not a wise bet. Utility concepts are extremely important to understand.
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            • btraband
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-05-08
              • 514

              #7
              rain man!
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              • Dunder
                Restricted User
                • 10-26-09
                • 3345

                #8
                LOL. Whenever I have practised counting (Zen counting) it has been so obvious that I would never try it in a casino, albeit it did produce good results.

                FreeVick, you might have gotten lucky so far but your strategy gives the house a huge edge.
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                • MonkeyF0cker
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-12-07
                  • 12144

                  #9
                  It really depends on the game, honestly. Systems with higher playing efficiency are better for 1-2 deck games. Systems with higher betting efficiency are better for shoe games. It depends what you play or want to play...
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                  • MonkeyF0cker
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-12-07
                    • 12144

                    #10
                    If you're going to learn a system, I'd look around at the casinos near you and see what game(s) have higher penetration along with favorable rules and learn a system that works best with those games.
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                    • freeVICK
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-21-08
                      • 7114

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dunder
                      LOL. Whenever I have practised counting (Zen counting) it has been so obvious that I would never try it in a casino, albeit it did produce good results.

                      FreeVick, you might have gotten lucky so far but your strategy gives the house a huge edge.
                      casinos want you to play by the book. heck they invented "the book". maybe I got lucky the few times I used this strategy, but I learned this from a very very sharp dude. he also said never play tables games with an automatic shuffler.
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                      • MonkeyF0cker
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-12-07
                        • 12144

                        #12
                        Originally posted by freeVICK
                        casinos want you to play by the book. heck they invented "the book". maybe I got lucky the few times I used this strategy, but I learned this from a very very sharp dude. he also said never play tables games with an automatic shuffler.
                        LOL.
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                        • Johnny 55
                          Restricted User
                          • 05-16-09
                          • 1079

                          #13
                          The casinos did not invent the "book", nor did they invent mathematics, they just prey on people who dont understand mathematics such as yourself. The "book" as you refer to it is simply a mathematical chart produced by over 2 billion computer simulated hands. In the example you gave, you will lose 79% of the time. It is just math. Casinos dont mind if you play basic strategy because they still have a mathematical edge over you, not to mention a huge utility edge. A basic comprehension of math would solve a lot of gamblers problems.
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                          • Dunder
                            Restricted User
                            • 10-26-09
                            • 3345

                            #14
                            Originally posted by freeVICK
                            casinos want you to play by the book. heck they invented "the book". maybe I got lucky the few times I used this strategy, but I learned this from a very very sharp dude. he also said never play tables games with an automatic shuffler.

                            "I am convinced that in some parts of America, people have actually started mating with vegetables" - Jeremy Clarkson.
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                            • donjuan
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-29-07
                              • 3993

                              #15
                              Originally posted by freeVICK

                              casinos want you to play by the book. heck they invented "the book". maybe I got lucky the few times I used this strategy, but I learned this from a very very sharp dude. he also said never play tables games with an automatic shuffler.
                              I do the same. The book says to stand on 20 vs dealer 6 but that's what the casino wants you to do! I double down and afterward head straight to the yacht that this strategy paid for.
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                              • williams22
                                Restricted User
                                • 09-19-08
                                • 6134

                                #16
                                Originally posted by freeVICK
                                casinos want you to play by the book. heck they invented "the book". maybe I got lucky the few times I used this strategy, but I learned this from a very very sharp dude. he also said never play tables games with an automatic shuffler.
                                I bet casinos get VERY happy when you show up. Basic strategy is based on math, not on what the casino wants you to do. The house probably has somewhere around a 10% edge the way you play.
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                                • CollegePro
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-23-09
                                  • 4006

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by freeVICK
                                  casinos want you to play by the book. heck they invented "the book". maybe I got lucky the few times I used this strategy, but I learned this from a very very sharp dude. he also said never play tables games with an automatic shuffler.
                                  duh, obviously.....
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                                  • newjerseydevils
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-11-08
                                    • 3110

                                    #18
                                    best strategy--dont play
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                                    • Dunder
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 10-26-09
                                      • 3345

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by newjerseydevils
                                      best strategy--dont play

                                      Unless you can gain an edge by counting, which is what the thread was supposed to be about.
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                                      • HotStreak
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-12-09
                                        • 3235

                                        #20
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                                        • Dunder
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 10-26-09
                                          • 3345

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by HotStreak
                                          Excellent movie.
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                                          • tyler36
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 02-25-08
                                            • 426

                                            #22
                                            Counting cards isn't illegal, its just frowned upon, like masterbating on an airplane.
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                                            • tyler36
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 02-25-08
                                              • 426

                                              #23
                                              Well I've really been practising counting, using all 4 strategies I put up there. The easiest, obviously, would be the Hi-Lo, I've got a pretty good grip on all 4. Might head to the casino today or tomorrow and give it a test go.
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