Has anyone been BANNED from a book in Vegas?

[Tomato]

Tomato sees some very weak lines at these books.

[poker_dummy101]

fishhead has already posted once in players talk for the week. ask this question next week.

[emoney]

I don't know of anyone specifically.

But I am sure that Durito has been banned from all of them.

[Capybara]

Tomato is back! Capybara looks forward to these rare appearances from Tomato.

Capybara has never been banned from a book in Vegas, because Capybara bets no more than a couple hundred on a game.

However, Capybara has been watched closely at high-roller blackjack, as he is a card counter.

[Sam Odom]

I got 'banned' at the 21 Tables @ the Gold Spike

[TheRock]

LOL...I have been 'banned' from 21 tables at the Gold Spike too!

[Sam Odom]

TheRock ,

I know you are telling the truth! In my day , they had a $1-50 range w/single deck

I used to 'show-off' and got banned. Stupid on my part

[Capybara]

LOL, as we're seeing here, it's a LOT easier to get banned for counting cards than it is for WINNING TOO MANY SPORTS BETS!

For one thing, you'd have to be betting close to their limits, which are like 50k a game I think, and then winning too high a percentage. Can't be more than one or two people who fit that category who ever post here.

We have any of the Brain Trust here at SBR???

[Rush]

Nope

[MonkeyF0cker]

It's hard to get 86'd from a Vegas book, honestly. There are only a few that do it. The few that do (like Stations and Stratosphere) you have to try to stay under the radar. Most will take counter limits from anyone. A friend of mine got 86'd from the Venetian for betting a bad line (a +10 instead of -10). That's one way to do it...

[Ravy Pacer]

no.

[Capybara]

It's hard to get 86'd from a Vegas book, honestly. There are only a few that do it. The few that do (like Stations and Stratosphere) you have to try to stay under the radar. Most will take counter limits from anyone. A friend of mine got 86'd from the Venetian for betting a bad line (a +10 instead of -10). That's one way to do it...

Monkey, what are the standard counter limits these days?

Nasty for banning your friend just for catching a bad line.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Books have to honor any ticket here. If you bet a bad line, you get paid (assuming it wins). However, at many books you'll get the boot. Counter limits vary for every book and sport. It's generally 3-5k per side and 1-2k per total. Football, both NCAA and (especially) NFL, are higher generally.

[reno cool]

yeah, the only way I'd imagine they'd take 50k is if you're a well known big time loser, and even then only a few places.

[Capybara]

Interesting reading on this topic: "The Smart Money" - Michael Konik. True story of a writer who ended up placing bets at Vegas books for big-money sharps. Entertaining thus far (reading it now).

[Justin7]

The strat will ban anyone with a pulse.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Things are a lot different here compared to when Konik was a runner, especially the way certain books are run - particularly the Hilton and Caesars. It is a good read but there isn't too much to gain from it unless you're completely green to the way sharps and runners operate.

[tacomax]

Rumour has it that Konik was a runner for Fishhead. However I believe that Fishhead started that rumour.

[Brakon00]

I read in a local article in vegas in last summer that some pro sports bettor tried to wager 250,000 dollars on the Atlanta Braves on the road vs. mets when they were +250 and they didnt take his action because they thought he knew something the books didnt know....after the braves ended up winning the game vs. mets 5-2 that game the books found out that the local new york city news didnt report to the public about the Met's party that ended up going past 5 am the previous night from too much drinking. The Mets players were lazy and restless from the previous night and only had 2 hits in the game and Santana had not gotten any rest the previous night. The pro bettor was a mets fan and found out from his father who works for the mets as one of the many accountants for the franchise.

[Capybara]

Things are a lot different here compared to when Konik was a runner, especially the way certain books are run - particularly the Hilton and Caesars. It is a good read but there isn't too much to gain from it unless you're completely green to the way sharps and runners operate.

So what are the changes, Monkey? Can you elaborate? Now you've got my interest.

[egr99]

How's the limits on NHL @ the counter... ML/PL ?? Anyone know.

egr99

[Richkas]

no.

Ravy Pacer................................... .....................in front

[THEGREAT30]

I'm thinking about moving to Vegas this is good info. I might not want to move just visit for bigger bets.

[Justin7]

I'm thinking about moving to Vegas this is good info. I might not want to move just visit for bigger bets.

If you just want to get bets in, just work with someone. No need to move out.

Las Vegas sucks. It is a cess-pool of misery.

[SpiderMonkey]

I am not welcome in the Strat ... but not b/c I was winning $$$.

[Sawyer]

Banned once in Cyprus but not in Vegas..(yet)

[MrX]

Stations.

[JamesBrown]

If you just want to get bets in, just work with someone. No need to move out.

Las Vegas sucks. It is a cess-pool of misery.

I live in Las Vegas and I love it. THose who visit never step 2 miles away from the strip....some great people and nice area's furthur out.

[JohnnyC]

If you just want to get bets in, just work with someone. No need to move out.

Las Vegas sucks. It is a cess-pool of misery.

It is really not as simple as working with someone.

You need to trust this 'someone' like a brother, don't know about you but I don't have too many brothers willing to run bets for me in the cess-pool of misery.

[tltaylor89]

Mirage turned me away before I got out of the car they read my license plates

[KingRevolver]

No, but I've been banned from every gambling forum (including EOG) at least once.