Cincy players blaming Kelly is a joke

[poker_dummy101]

I don't like Kelly that much but for his Cincy players to attack him like that is a joke.

[pattymayo]

umm so the players shouldn't care that he turns his back on his team and won't even coach the bowl game?

[Irish Lumberjack]

he should've been allowed to coach the bowl game

[poker_dummy101]

Hardly any coach coaches the bowl game when they get a better job.

Did you notice the key words in there? He got a BETTER job with a much higher salary. Ofcourse he won't turn that down. It is a business common sense decision.

Its not like he can say, YES I'm going to Notre Dame if they offer me the job.. because what if he doesnt get it? then he's screwed and stuck at cincy. There is nothing a coach can do when he is faced with leaving for a better job and is bs how much shit he has to take.

[poker_dummy101]

he should've been allowed to coach the bowl game

would you want to coach those kids after what they said about him though?

He took 2 policemen in with him.

[Capybara]

I agree on that point, Poker, but my personal pet peeve with these coaches is how they attack the media and bitch them out when anyone even suggests or asks whether they'd be interested in the "University of XX" job. They stand up there and call them all out as punks and devils and f--kin' morons, and a couple of days later they accept the job!!

Don't know why I really care, but I just like people who treat other people with respect... hard to find in coaching.

[mcbaseball10]

They are young and emotional, its a fair reaction. At the end of the day they will realize that he did what he had to do. People that said he should have told them before the Pitt game are fooling themselves. No way he should have told them. He had to have 18-23 year olds focused on the biggest game of their careers. He tried to tell them face to face at the banquet before it was leaked. Sad and unfortunate circumstances, but its hard to blame Kelly on this.

[pattymayo]

Notre Dame is hardly a better job. they suck. Lucky for him their schedule next year is even easier than this year. They have no QB either

[big joe 1212]

he should've been allowed to coach the bowl game

he needs to start recruiting for Norte Dame now. It would be too conflicting to coach Cincinnatti while recruiting for ND

[poker_dummy101]

I agree on that point, Poker, but my personal pet peeve with these coaches is how they attack the media and bitch them out when anyone even suggests or asks whether they'd be interested in the "University of XX" job. They stand up there and call them all out as punks and devils and f--kin' morons, and a couple of days later they accept the job!!

Don't know why I really care, but I just like people who treat other people with respect... hard to find in coaching.

Yea, but like I said earlier. When reporters say: Are you interested in the job? All they say is: Lets talk about our game, etc and etc. They try to avoid all the questions.

What if he says yea, I am interested and Notre Dame turns him down? He is stuck at Cincy when he already told people he'd rather be at Notre Dame??

Look at UCONN coach. He was interviewed. Do you not think THAT in itself hurt the team? Ofcourse. Its saying as soon as he finds a better job, he is out. And who wouldn't be out and get a better job? That is what you are TRYING to do! For people to bash coaches for that is uncalled for.

(And as I said im not sticking up for kelly, i dont like him)

[poker_dummy101]

Notre Dame is hardly a better job. they suck. Lucky for him their schedule next year is even easier than this year. They have no QB either

you are right, its not a better job.. he just gets 5x the pay for a worse job.

You are a horrible troll.

[big joe 1212]

[MexicanStallion]

He turned his back on them first, so I don't care what they think of Kelly. Nobody here likes him anymore anyway. I am disappointed he left, but just more disappointed he let this drag out for so long. False hopes. I figured he knew he would take this job since it has been rumored. Instead he made comments like he would entertain the idea and listen etc, when he knew this was going to be his job.

He could have coached the bowl game I guess, but UC wouldn't really play behind him. Why would you believe in him after he left? I don't know just some thoughts.

[Capybara]

Yea, but like I said earlier. When reporters say: Are you interested in the job? All they say is: Lets talk about our game, etc and etc. They try to avoid all the questions.

What if he says yea, I am interested and Notre Dame turns him down? He is stuck at Cincy when he already told people he'd rather be at Notre Dame??

Look at UCONN coach. He was interviewed. Do you not think THAT in itself hurt the team? Ofcourse. Its saying as soon as he finds a better job, he is out. And who wouldn't be out and get a better job? That is what you are TRYING to do! For people to bash coaches for that is uncalled for.

(And as I said im not sticking up for kelly, i dont like him)

You misunderstood me -- No, of course I don't think they should say "Sure, I'd love to work for Notre Dame"... What I think they should say is simply "I'm the coach at Cincinnati and that other stuff is just speculation I'd prefer not to address -- let's stick to football please, thank you." Or something like that. They always get all angry and attack the media, who not only are just doing their job, but are CORRECT in their questions.

Sorry, I know I took your thread off course. Like I said, just a pet-peeve. For instance, Belichick is my favorite coach on Earth (obviously, since I'm a homer), but sometimes I can't take his press conferences, because he is just oozing disdain for the questioners, like they all disgust him with their silliness and idiocy. Not only will he not give straight answers to anything, but he treats the questioners like dogs--t.

I believe you can stand up there and be respectful and a gentleman while at the same time not giving away too much information and still answering all the questions. Plenty of coaches accomplish this: Tony Dungy, Norv Turner... even Wade Phillips I got to give credit, because those Dallas media guys truly ARE a-holes!

[poker_dummy101]

Like I said.. he was Notre Dame's top "candidate" but what happens if they hired UCONN guy at last minute? If Meyer or Stoops changed their mind and were secretly talking to ND? He has to protect the job he has now until he officially GETS the other job. If ND turns him down he can't go back to Cincy after admitting he wants to leave.

[poker_dummy101]

You misunderstood me -- No, of course I don't think they should say "Sure, I'd love to work for Notre Dame"... What I think they should say is simply "I'm the coach at Cincinnati and that other stuff is just speculation I'd prefer not to address -- let's stick to football please, thank you." Or something like that. They always get all angry and attack the media, who not only are just doing their job, but are CORRECT in their questions.

he did say that over and over. he also told the team he was talking to notre dame!!

for them to take shots at him for getting a better job is bad.

[Capybara]

Anyway, let's see how he does at ND. I believe the guy has a chance to turn it around -- proven track record, right personality for the job... and he can get started now recruiting.

Having said that, I don't really care that much. Not a huge college football guy.

[poker_dummy101]

i can appreciate some of their tradition but hate how they get so much attention all the time and esp in the polls.

kelly seems too cocky and arrogant to me (prolly a good fit)

[ZBOIZ]

Bottom line he lied!

[Jaug]

No loyalty. Things like this do not happen in soccer except when redknapp gets a new job.

[Sam Odom]

ALL scholarship players at Cinn should be able to leave without penalty

[poker_dummy101]

do you guys forget how it is handled every single time? (saban, petrino.. name me other prominent college coaches that moved and its the same story)

the coach says, we are focused on blah blah blah and do not want to talk about it

the questions keep coming

infact, kelly was pretty truthful in this to his players. he said to his team he was going to interview with them, and he told them face to face he is leaving.

you guys seriously think he can say.. yes i am interviewing with notre dame and if they offer me a job i am going to take it?
how many interviewed for the job, and how many got turned down? all those guys would be out of a job at the place they coach now.

[poker_dummy101]

espn is pathetic.

1 show says he told the kids he was interviewing with ND and now around the horn marriotti just said they he told the team he was staying.

[IrishTim]

I agree on that point, Poker, but my personal pet peeve with these coaches is how they attack the media and bitch them out when anyone even suggests or asks whether they'd be interested in the "University of XX" job. They stand up there and call them all out as punks and devils and f--kin' morons, and a couple of days later they accept the job!!

Don't know why I really care, but I just like people who treat other people with respect... hard to find in coaching.

It's because the media forces them to address the issue that all these coaches (Meyer, Saban, Rich Rod, now Kelly and dozens of others) have to lie to their players and fans. I mean how inspired would Cincinnati have played vs. Pitt if Kelly said anything before the game other than "I'm not going anywhere guys, now let's go win this football game".

[IrishTim]

umm so the players shouldn't care that he turns his back on his team and won't even coach the bowl game?

There is a 0% chance that ND would've let him coach in the bowl game. I'm sure there was an ultimatum. We already got burned on that once when we let Weis coach the Patriots superbowl (incidentally the last one they won), but essentially had an entire empty freshman class. ND can't afford to throw away an entire year of recruits again.

I'm sure Kelly would've loved to have coached in the Sugar Bowl but not so much that he would turn down his dream job and arguably the most prestigious position in all of college (or pro) sports.

[Capybara]

It's because the media forces them to address the issue that all these coaches (Meyer, Saban, Rich Rod, now Kelly and dozens of others) have to lie to their players and fans. I mean how inspired would Cincinnati have played vs. Pitt if Kelly said anything before the game other than "I'm not going anywhere guys, now let's go win this football game".

You're right, it's a tough situation. I just think there is a proper, respectful way to handle it that 90% of coaches don't employ.

[IrishTim]

Notre Dame is hardly a better job. they suck. Lucky for him their schedule next year is even easier than this year. They have no QB either

While you can make the case that when a coach turned down the ND job for Florida (a historically less prestigious school by a mile) that things had clearly changed and that the ND head coach was no longer the pinnacle spot in college football, there is no way that anyone can make the case that coaching Notre Dame is not a better job than coaching Cincinnati. UC doesn't even have a practice field! ND has some of the best facilities in the world (multiple outdoor practice fields and a full scale indoor one). The widest fanbase in the country. Some of the wealthiest and most dedicated alumni and boosters. A stadium that seats 2.5 times as many as UC.

Come on.

[poker_dummy101]

Atleast someone agrees.

[bettilimbroke999]

Toughest thing in college sports is that when a coach has great success like Kelly had at Cincy he will be called up to replace a coach that has bombed at the next higher level, the kids cant believe it bc they think oh fuk I thought coach loved this school and this team, EVERY COACH NO MATTER WHERE WOULD LIKE TO COACH AT THE NEXT LEVEL IN COLLEGE SPORTS PERIOD (UNLESS THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE TOP)

The questions by the reporters are retarded bc of course hed rather go to ND ITS FUKIN OBVIOUS IF HIS BRAIN WORKS AT ALL HE'D RATHER COACH ND THAN CINCY but he cant say that bc if he doesnt get the job he looks like a complete jackass, if a reporter came up to you at your job and said hey theres another company that may want you to do the same job you do here would you rather work for that company and you say fuk yea Id leave this dump in a heartbeat if they'd offer me a job, I dont give a fuk about this place its all about the benjamins baby, then you dont get the job how does that make you look

[IrishTim]

Atleast someone agrees.

You're 100% correct. The internet rumors force the media to ask the coaches these questions. If they say, "I'm not talking about those rumors" everyone takes it to mean that he's already signed a contract. So he basically has no choice but to say "I'm staying at X school" or risk losing the players, fans, and having a huge shit storm.

[IrishTim]

Toughest thing in college sports is that when a coach has great success like Kelly had at Cincy he will be called up to replace a coach that has bombed at the next higher level, the kids cant believe it bc they think oh fuk I thought coach loved this school and this team, EVERY COACH NO MATTER WHERE WOULD LIKE TO COACH AT THE NEXT LEVEL IN COLLEGE SPORTS PERIOD (UNLESS THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE TOP)

The questions by the reporters are retarded bc of course hed rather go to ND ITS FUKIN OBVIOUS IF HIS BRAIN WORKS AT ALL HE'D RATHER COACH ND THAN CINCY but he cant say that bc if he doesnt get the job he looks like a complete jackass, if a reporter came up to you at your job and said hey theres another company that may want you to do the same job you do here would you rather work for that company and you say fuk yea Id leave this dump in a heartbeat if they'd offer me a job, I dont give a fuk about this place its all about the benjamins baby, then you dont get the job how does that make you look

Exactly. You can see Stoops or Meyer turning down ND because they're already at schools with a history and Prestige that rivals ND, they're beloved by their fanbases, have won NCs for those schools, have great in-state recruiting ties, etc.

But no one can argue that UC with their 35k seating capacity and no practice fields, little funding, etc. is a better job than Notre Dame.

[ZBOIZ]

Notre Dame is pathetic!

Kelly will lose his ass off at Notre Dame! He better get a A1 quality D Cordintor!

[MTek]

Notre Dame is hardly a better job. they suck. Lucky for him their schedule next year is even easier than this year. They have no QB either

Puhlleezzze...another clueless bimbo

[poker_dummy101]

Notre Dame is pathetic!

Kelly will lose his ass off at Notre Dame! He better get a A1 quality D Cordintor!

Congrats Irish Tim.. looks like ND will be getting a few national championships now

[IrishTim]

Congrats Irish Tim.. looks like ND will be getting a few national championships now

Let's hope