Bigdaddy a point spread doesn't mean shit when it comes to knowlege of football. It's gambling! I can promise you that you don't know more than me about the x's and o's of football. Especially if you think Kelly is the hire for that program if they want championships. I will leave it at that. Defense wins championships not offense.
Ask miles how to win championships. He won one!
Miles will probably go down as one of the worst coaches to every win a national championship. He'll never win won with his own players. It's pretty evident to the rest of the world that Saban is a 10x better coach than Miles will ever be.
So many ignorant comments in this thread, I don't have nearly the time to go through and debunk every one during finals week. I'll let BigDaddy take care of it.
Kelly is a winner on every level. He's something like 34-6 at UC, a program that was nothing before he got there. Yes, I feel terrible for the players and fans of Cincinnati but there was no way around it. If he wanted to take the ND job, he was not going to be allowed to spend the next few weeks preparing for the Sugar Bowl. This is probably the most important recruiting period of the year and ND can't afford to surrender an entire class like they did when Weis coached the Patriots last Superbowl victory.
Sure Kelly's defense this year wasn't Alabama, but it's still way better than ND's defense has been and that's with less "talent" (according to the rankings of the recruiting services) and with practically the entire defense leaving last year.
Anyone who didn't expect him to take this job is out of their minds. UC's stadium seats 35k and they don't even have a practice field. ND has multiple outdoor practice fields and a full-scale indoor one with a stadium that's sat 90k for every game the last 30 years. UC was a basketball school before Kelly got there, and ND is arguably the most historic and prestigious football school in the entire country. His status as a football coach legend if he returns ND to glory is 100x greater than whatever he could accomplish at UC.
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#38
Irishtim when Kelly wins a title with sorry ass notre dame than you talk!
I remember when my and Miles ripped a new asshole in Nortre Dame. lol. What a easy game!
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#39
Hey Irishtim,
I guess Saban is winning with Shula's talent huh?
Saban couldn't win b2b 10 win seasons at LSU with his own talent.
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IrishTim
SBR Wise Guy
07-23-09
983
#40
Originally posted by ZBOIZ
Hey Irishtim,
I guess Saban is winning with Shula's talent huh?
Saban couldn't win b2b 10 win seasons at LSU with his own talent.
Saban's winning because Alabama let him bring in JUCOs and anyone he wants. Cody, Julio Jones, and a few others that are the key players on the team are HIS guys.
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#41
Originally posted by IrishTim
Saban's winning because Alabama let him bring in JUCOs and anyone he wants. Cody, Julio Jones, and a few others that are the key players on the team are HIS guys.
excuses!
Bottom line, if you line up LSU and Notre Dame tommorrow I'll give you 21 points and I bet LSU pounds them!
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Ralphie1412
SBR Posting Legend
01-29-08
13963
#42
I would take Notre Dame +21 against LSU.
You guys are talented and improved over the season, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.
"This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
Goat Milk
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BigdaddyQH
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-09
19530
#43
First ZBOIZ, I have forgotten more about football than you will ever know. You lie about your wagers. You lose on a consistant basis. You think that Miles is the greatest coach ever, but he could not wipe Saban's ass. LSU is way behind Alabama. They get out-recruted every year. LSU is going to get their tails kicked by 'Bama and Florida next year, and could easily lose to Auburn, Tennessee, and Arkansas, not to mention North Carolina. Your knowledge of football is a major joke in here, as is your wagering. I can destroy you any time you want to wager. You are nothing more than a worthless homer who is a major joke in here. People make a lot of money fading you and your opinions. Stay away from football. You have no idea of what in the hell you are talking about. You are the biggest excuse maker in here. You should talk. USC would kick LSU's ass any time, any day, any place, just like I would kick yours in any wager. Go away loser.
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#44
Ralphie ND defense sucks ass and I don't see them scoring much at all.
I say
LSU 41
ND 10
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#45
BigDaddy you are a joke...lol..
If LSU sitution was so bad than why did Florida recruiting cordinator and WR coach just signed a contract to coach the same position at LSU ?
Oh yea not to mention last year we had the #1 ranked recruiting class which beat Bama.
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#46
BigDaddy as long as Miles has the State of Louisiana on lock with recruits this program will never go down!
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IrishTim
SBR Wise Guy
07-23-09
983
#47
Originally posted by ZBOIZ
BigDaddy as long as Miles has the State of Louisiana on lock with recruits this program will never go down!
Spare me. As long as Saban and Meyer are still coaching in the SEC, LSU will never win an another SEC championship game.
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RPP
SBR Wise Guy
09-07-09
650
#48
Kelly is a liar. I hope he fails miserably.
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Jonah
SBR MVP
10-21-09
4042
#49
Originally posted by ZBOIZ
Nope!
We are not Bama and USC
Just give cars away? I have on good authority that they do as of three years ago when T Holliday had hisi driveway looking like an episode of cribs.
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teaserpleaser
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-14-08
26015
#50
Originally posted by RPP
Kelly is a liar. I hope he fails miserably.
but a very good liar... I think he would have been a great lawyer. man did you listen to the press conference on espn news that guy has the answer for everything. coach kelly (i think they are bringing in somebody special for the defense. I think hes going to get what he wants I think hes going to get it done at ND.)
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#51
Miles has won while they been coaching there and has beaten them also. Meyer has a lot of holes to fill next year and it will be a rebuilding year for them just like LSU has been doing. Bama will lose a good bit also. Next year LSU will be favored to win the SEC believe it or not!
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IrishTim
SBR Wise Guy
07-23-09
983
#52
Originally posted by RPP
Kelly is a liar. I hope he fails miserably.
Bitterness aside, how do you think your team realistically does in the Sugar Bowl? I am currently holding a Cincinnati +11 card, thinking of selling off some at Fl. -10. Definitely if it gets to -9.5 but don't see that happening.
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#53
Originally posted by Jonah
Just give cars away? I have on good authority that they do as of three years ago when T Holliday had hisi driveway looking like an episode of cribs.
I will teach you guys something today!
LSU doesn't buy there athletes the alumni's do and put it in there parents name. Therfore it's not illegal!
There you go you learn something new everyday!
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IrishTim
SBR Wise Guy
07-23-09
983
#54
That makes it so much better. What happens when they get hurt and can't play football anymore? Or when they retire from the NFL and all their money is gone after 5 years? Do the alumni (no "s") take care of them then, as well?
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#55
Nope. All the schools do it,
including Notre Dame
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Ralphie1412
SBR Posting Legend
01-29-08
13963
#56
All the butt hurt cinci fans need to shut up. The guy has won everywhere he has gone. He wants to try and challenge himself and make a ton more money. Get over it, hes gone. You guys have a mean QB coming back next year.
"This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
Goat Milk
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IrishTim
SBR Wise Guy
07-23-09
983
#57
Originally posted by ZBOIZ
Nope. All the schools do it,
including Notre Dame
I'm friends with a number of players on the team (including one of those 5-star players who has an NFL future). I can promise you that none of them have been given cars or cash by alumni or anyone else. Many of them still live in the dorms! And Notre Dame also honors the full scholarship, even when a kid gets hurt unlike many other schools.
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BigdaddyQH
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-09
19530
#58
Originally posted by ZBOIZ
I will teach you guys something today!
LSU doesn't buy there athletes the alumni's do and put it in there parents name. Therfore it's not illegal!
There you go you learn something new everyday!
Wrong again Z. If the alumni do it, it is illegal. It does not matter whose names they put it in. Besides, LSU alum are so poor that they cannot afford to. You are talking about Louisiana. If it were not for New Orleans, we would give Louisiana to the highest bidder. Let's review one of your phony wagers.
ZBOIZ'S FAKE TICKET HE POSTED TITANS +3.5
Straight Wager10/11/09 16:04 ETbet 1,000.00 to win 909.09 Result: Pending Indianapolis Colts
Tennessee Titans 10/11/09(20:25 ET) Indianpolis Colts +3.5
That was only one of many phony wager, just like your posts. Phony as hell. Just what we need. Some Red Neck from Louisiana who is rarely sober telling us about football. Take it back to the Trailer that you live in. And stop your constant lying. Last year, Alabama had the #1 rated recruiting class, not LSU. I can;t wait to kick your tail in the bowl games. And no more fake wagers boy. I'll bounce you all over this place if you ever try to pll that crap again.
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IrishTim
SBR Wise Guy
07-23-09
983
#59
Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
ZBOIZ'S FAKE TICKET HE POSTED TITANS +3.5
Straight Wager10/11/09 16:04 ETbet 1,000.00 to win 909.09 Result: Pending Indianapolis Colts
Tennessee Titans 10/11/09(20:25 ET) Indianpolis Colts +3.5
Pathetic. What a waste of my time even talking to him.
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RPP
SBR Wise Guy
09-07-09
650
#60
I'm not mad he is gone. I expected it. I am however PISSED that he lied.
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#61
Bigdaddy per ESPN LSU had the #1 ranked recruiting class! Rivals had Bama #1.
Now off to what's illegal, if I'm a LSU alum and I want a kid t go to LSU I have the right as an American to do what I want with my money. Saying that I can go next door and buy a kid a car
and put it in his parents name and there's nothing wrong with that! Legally the car belongs to the parent and the NCAA can't do nothing about it because the parents didn't sign the scholarship. Now Bigdaddy this goes to show that you are illeterate when it comes to lawful things poor kid just like the average American dumb when it comes to knowing lawful things.
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IrishTim
SBR Wise Guy
07-23-09
983
#62
No you idiot. Alums and fans like that are considered "boosters" and are extensions/representatives of the university, thus they are not allowed to provide illegal gifts to athletes.
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ZBOIZ
SBR Posting Legend
06-22-08
21464
#63
Irish you are the idiot!
The gift is not for the student it's legally for the patents, or if you want to get real dirty I can put it in the grandparents name! It's done all types of ways! Trust me I know.
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rk9
SBR High Roller
08-24-09
117
#64
Parents may not be given benefits, gifts, or discounts by institutions, other parents, or RAIs. Parents may not
receive discounted or free items or service based on their son or daughters status as a student-athlete (i.e.
No more star QB & star reciever. It's going to a rough 1st year.
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goblue12
SBR MVP
02-08-09
1316
#66
The only way I "don't see it happening" under Kelly is if the Alums and Players don't buy into his ways.
As long as they support him, he will get it done there.
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THE PROFIT
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-09
17701
#67
Everybody needs to do like my VOLS & just lure 'em in with a hooker!
Anyway, I think ND should have talked a little more to Fulmer. Like him or not, you can't argue with his record.
They need a defensive mind, someone who can recruit nationally, who can compete & win on a national stage. Oh yeah, a National Championship on the resume doesn't hurt either!
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gummo
SBR Hall of Famer
09-04-06
6297
#68
Originally posted by anthonydiamondLC
They got the right person Kelly can recruit great players
I think the jury's out on that. His best players the last two years were recruited by Dantonio.
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MartinBlank
SBR Hall of Famer
07-20-08
8382
#69
Z.....I have to ask you this.
Why did you create that fake ticket?
And why did you send me all your points?
I appreciated the points----they are nice in my sportsbook balance, but I never understood it.
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goblue12
SBR MVP
02-08-09
1316
#70
Originally posted by gummo
I think the jury's out on that. His best players the last two years were recruited by Dantonio.
The entire core group at CMU was recruited by Brian Kelly.