Don't let this happen to you......(contest warning)

[SBR Lou]

SBR please get to the bottom of this and give us an explanation of what happened. So far nothing looks good for both SBR and LL because of no comments.

We were in touch with Droc privately.

Contestants can view their account ID's throughout a contest. You can only make changes prior to the contest beginning, but you're perfectly able to view your submission until the contest expires.

In this case it fell out of our hands, but it's no slight to the sponsor. They credited the account ID's provided swiftly, and still made an offer to mitigate having to pay the same prize twice.

Exceptions can't be made in all cases. I'm sure it's realized that there are instances where the mistakes made are not genuine. Droc is a good poster and I'm certain this was an honest mistake, but because of the bad apples out there we do have rules in place and unfortunately I'm not able to bend them as liberally as I would like to.

[poker_dummy101]

cannot blame SBR or looselines for this

[pavyracer]

At least there is an explanation. I would be interested to know what LL did to the player that used the freeplay illegally. Did they give him the boot?

[droc]

I was just going to let this die, but I must say Lou, you totally confused me with your post above.......Are you saying that a "bad apple" could get an advantage out of mistyping his account #.........And "exceptions can't be made in all cases" Does this mean that you would have made an exception for certain other posters? I could keep going here, your reply really through me for a loop..................FWIW, LooseLines was kind enough to finally answer my email... see below.

I’m sorry you’re having this issue but SBR is 100% in control of this decision. They sponsor this contest and tell us who wins what amount and give us the account numbers. If there was an error they need to make the correction and let us know.
If they want to pay another prize amount, again, this is there decision

Thanks a ton SBR and CrazyLou!!

[pavyracer]

OK..So LL gets the account numbers from SBR and then credits the account. This seems reasonable. They can ask the player who used the free play fraudently to see if he is willing to pay it back. If not then we can't blame LL for this.

Also SBR needs to PM the players after they win to verify their account numbers before sending the money to the book. Lets hope this was just an oversight and a one time incident. SBR can really make themselves look good if they award some points to droc for his mishappening and I believe both parties will be satisfied and look good. Lets bury the hatchet now with some good will moves.

[droc]

"Contestants can view their account ID's throughout a contest. You can only make changes prior to the contest beginning, but you're perfectly able to view your submission until the contest expires."

I have no idea what this has to do with anything............I never disputed this fact. All I said was that I couldn't see my account # after the contest was over. I never thought about checking and rechecking my account # while the contest was ongoing, of course, I assumed I submitted the correct info. Hell, I could have looked at my 5 accounts entered in that contest 50X and I still probably wouldn't have picked up on that mistake, especially at LL, where I've never played.

[droc]

Thanks pavy, it would be very nice if LL woulkd contact the player in question, but they are unwilling to..Maybe it was an honest mistake that he would be willing to fix.

[oiler]

Thanks pavy, it would be very nice if LL woulkd contact the player in question, but they are unwilling to..Maybe it was an honest mistake that he would be willing to fix.

sorry to hear that and good luck on your future indeavors

[tblues2005]

Well, I sent a long email to LooseLines about this yesterday, and as expected, didn't even receive the courtesy of a reply........I'ts been very hard for me to be critical of SBR on this issue, because they're the ones that gave me the opportunity to win in the 1st place. The more I think about it though, I'm surprised that SBR didn't step in and try to help me a bit on this one. In fact, 2 people in the buisness who I spoke to yesterday, were sort of confused why sbr couldn't get this fixed. Ultimately, it's my fault for mistyping a number, just wish I could have gotten some help on this one..............I asked earlier for this thread to be moved over to the contest section so it might stay on page 1 for a bit longer and possibly help someone down the road, but I suppose that request was also denied.

Yes I am kind of shocked by this because it was an error that happens almost every day. You would think the book would check and see if the name matches or not also. Sorry to hear that you had this happen. Part of it in my eyes is your fault but part of it is their fault for not checking to see if the name matches the account. The book should give you a little bit of a break here for the mistake you made here. This is the way that I see it here.

[blueghost]

i was one of the few who said it was a great idea..still think it is

[sam9ball]

Just slinked it over for you
Sam

[Immortality]

droc - Yes I can see a way for scammers to take advantage of mistyping your account number. If I was a scammer, I could accidentally put in the "friends" account number instead of my own. I would wait awhile before my friend cashed out before saying my account number was wrong and that I didn't get paid. Hopefully I get paid twice. Worse case I still received the first payout.

Yeah this is most likely improbable. But it took me 5 seconds to come up with this so I am sure the scammers out there could fine tune the plan or come up with something better.

With that being said, I still think it's BS that all LooseLines offered was a matchplay bonus. It is probably an offer they make to a lot of their players. Nothing special about it. Since they are going to do nothing else about it, then just stay away from their. I am sure others will stay away from their as well.

[droc]

Imortality...............Yes, I see your point, but my account # was off by 1 number and I entered 4 other LooseLines sponsored contests with my correct account #. I could keep going but by the tone of your post I realize you don't think I was scamming anyone.

[droc]

I guess it's time to put this to bed...........While I have no doubt that I'm in the right, I still feel a bit foolish arguing about free contest funds...............Funny, I played at theDunes, AcesGold, BetCamelot, NAB, all the goodies, and I always just avoided being robbed, not this time though. I'll get over it..........At least I was able to finally put 2 and 2 together. Between CrazyLou's post and LooseLine's email, I finally get the picture. I'll tell you though, it felt much better thinking LooseLines was the one that screwed me.

Again, thanks to all of you that stopped by and said a kind word or supported my cause, it will not be forgotten!!

The End

[tblues2005]

Not a problem droc. Just learn from your mistake and make sure you don't do that again. What a painful way to know this.

[pavyracer]

droc..good luck!

I have been scammed 3 times by others in the last 2 weeks so this is something to get used to.

[billyloco]

looselines is definitely responsible & the jerkoff who spent the "supposedly" $250 erroneous deposit into their acct!!!

[ILMW]

Hey Droc, I think you need to send me a private message and you know what its in regards to, thanks.

[investor]

looselines is definitely responsible & the jerkoff who spent the "supposedly" $250 erroneous deposit into their acct!!!

LoL at it being the persons fault who got $250 free in their account. I know dayum well if i checked my account and it had extra money in it, i'd be betting the Sh!t out of it before it was too late. I dunno if it's that persons fault. Would you have contacted LL and asked why you had extra money in your acct?

[investor]

drocs- sorry that mistake happened.... it happens to me quite often after i smoke some o.g. kush. I'll even make the wrong bet sometimes.... But at the end of the day, i know it's my fault for making the mistake.

Honest mistakes do happen... and i think you did make an honest mistake. But one problem that i have with americans that i see all the time, is that we never take responsibility for our own actions. We are always quick to find someone else to blame. Drocs, yes you made a mistake and you got screwed because of it, but at the end of the day, your the one who put the wrong acct number. not LL or sbr.

Sucks though...

[SBR_John]

Unreal.. I created a thread a while ago that SBR should "Lock IN" our account numbers so we don't mistype them and we can't create ghost accounts.

For example: If you enter Bookmaker for BTP.. if you decide to enter another contest that needs a Bookmaker account.. your number will already be entered.

Hardly anyone replied to my thread though

That sucks OP

Great idea.

[billyloco]

Investor....I believe you, and people of your ilk are a minority in this country, disgusting individual!!

[Lost Angel]

droc,

SBR should do the right thing here and award you 1000 points or whatever is required to allow you to purchase a nice free play at the SBR Store at the book of your choice since you have such a bad experience with LooseLines. The bad publicity they get, both LL and SBR, does not warrant the mix up because the mistake was obviously not done on purpose. You had nothing to gain by providing the wrong account number a month before the contest was over.

How is it SBRs responsibility to clean up the mess that was borne of droc entering a wrong account number?

Were they to do what you say or even just 250 as droc suggested what sort of precedent would that set?

Might it lead to every single error maker who came down the Pike thereafter expecting to be compensated by SBR with points.

Ridiculously short-sighted suggestion. Its not on SBR to rectify this situation,d roc entered the wrong number end of story.

And LooseLines shouldn't be cast in a negative light either, they paid out.

[Lost Angel]

Also SBR needs to PM the players after they win to verify their account numbers before sending the money to the book.

Oh my lord NO.

WHAT??!!??

You now suggest SBRs workload should be increased so that we can become insulated against our own potential incompetence?!!?

I know Personal Responsibility is not a popular concept in USA but jeez man, humans err and shit happens as result.

[Lost Angel]

Since they are going to do nothing else about it, then just stay away from their. I am sure others will stay away from their as well.

The book did nothing to deserve your wrath.

[Lost Angel]

LoL at it being the persons fault who got $250 free in their account. I know dayum well if i checked my account and it had extra money in it, i'd be betting the Sh!t out of it before it was too late. I dunno if it's that persons fault. Would you have contacted LL and asked why you had extra money in your acct?

True that in essence to me at least the recipient of the 250 blowing that is the equivalent of a player betting into a bad line and we all know that a book would pull funds gained from such in a heartbeat but I still think the book should not be cast in a negative light for this.

Congrats though on the contest droc, I was watching the action at the top....thought you had it locked up...just noticed last night you came 2nd.

Consider the positive here droc.....this will not happen again, you will be very vigilant about proper numbers...just copy and paste them in.

This event may have saved you later from a much much larger loss that just 250.

[Lost Angel]

Investor....I believe you, and people of your ilk are a minority in this country, disgusting individual!!

You're Flatlining on the brainfront dude.

[Dark Horse]

SBR has a very strict policy this year that a wrongly entered account number can't be changed. Zero flexibility. Strange. SBR is generally pretty cool and generous, but where you would least expect it they can get anal about the littlest things. In the case of sportsbook accounts, even when entering as many as 15 different ones, absolutely no typos. And don't even try to share an e-mail address in a pm. I sort of picture SBR as many nice guys, and one asshole (the one behind these two policies). OK, that picture doesn't quite work. I guess. lol