World Cup draw at 12pm EST...

[Jimmy0607]

Uruguay with South Africa, Mexico and France , it was going too good until fukkin cheating france showed up

[DwightShrute]

France will NOT make it out of the first round

[FishFace5]

Finally a good draw for the USA. **** the frogs, don't wanna hear about em, my Irish are sitting home because of those cheating bastards.

[FishFace5]

France will NOT make it out of the first round

Yeah they will. That's a pretty weak group. They're def at least 2nd best in that group

[SRBI]

France doesn't belong, I agree. Would love to see them kicked out in the first round.

Give Ireland the spot instead.

[SRBI]

Good let them have a war over soccer....their own problem for being idiots and fighting over soccer...

[Jimmy0607]

Yeah they will. That's a pretty weak group. They're def at least 2nd best in that group

Home team , Mexico , FRance and Uruguay are not weak buddy

[Jimmy0607]

SRBI

Are you serbian?

[SRBI]

Home team , Mexico , FRance and Uruguay are not weak buddy

He's clearly a homer LOL look at his name, Fishface.

It's alright, let em keep their hopes up, I hope they get crushed by every team in that group.

[SRBI]

SRBI

Are you serbian?

150%

[FishFace5]

Its WC ... everyone has a good chance of winning, but realistically, there's no chance for the US to win vs England.

We just beat Spain. I think U.S. can beat anybody on any given day. Just don't have the same confidence they can string those types of performances together to make a run in this thing.

[Dark Horse]

Netherlands is going to win it

I hope you're right. Clockwork Orange.

But they're haunted by two psychological obstacles. Either their egos get in the way before the tournament starts and they fall all over each other, or their egos get in the way during the tournament when the whole world tells them how great they look. They need to learn how to finish. They have a good shot, though, because this particular World Cup is not very high on the quality scale. Italy, France, Argentina, and Brazil are all down from their best form.

Spain, Germany, Holland (if they can avoid Portugal).

[Jimmy0607]

150%

Cool , my fiance is from Bosnia but shes Serbian you know what I mean

[FishFace5]

Home team , Mexico , FRance and Uruguay are not weak buddy

There not 2nd best here?? S.Africa= Doesn't qualify if they don't host, Mexico= Just o.k. Not impressive, not better than France imo. Uruguay= Maybe best team in group but entirely beatable. France advances, fairly easily imo.

[SRBI]

Cool , my fiance is from Bosnia but shes Serbian you know what I mean

You're a lucky man, trust me. Treat her like gold.

And yeah I know all about that "I'm Serbian, but from Bosnia."

Shit dont fly wit me, I'm Serbian, born in Serbia, from Serbia.

Therefore I'm a Serbian from Serbia, ya know?

I do have some Croatian in me as well but that's from the knees down

[DwightShrute]

France doesn't belong, I agree. Would love to see them kicked out in the first round.

Give Ireland the spot instead.

Karma

[Jimmy0607]

Hahaha yeah I know all about you guys , when they asked she just says Yugoslavia because Bosnia is the OTHER kind of people you knowwwww, anyways Serbia has kinda of a tough group

[SRBI]

Karma

It (hopefully) does the job since corrupt FIFA assholes didn't

[DwightShrute]

I hope you're right. Clockwork Orange.

But they're haunted by two psychological obstacles. Either their egos get in the way before the tournament starts and they fall all over each other, or their egos get in the way during the tournament when the whole world tells them how great they look. They need to learn how to finish. They have a good shot, though, because this particular World Cup is not very high on the quality scale. Italy, France, Argentina, and Brazil are all down from their best form.

Spain, Germany, Holland (if they can avoid Portugal).

They seem to always show promise, qualify easily but never quite get there. Same could have been said for Spain but they finally won the Euro Cup which has more quality teams than the World Cup does. Netherlands should be one of the favs. Solid all around.

They often remind me of my Czech's who are in a rebuilding phase and didn't make it this time.

Clockwork Orange

[SRBI]

Hahaha yeah I know all about you guys , when they asked she just says Yugoslavia because Bosnia is the OTHER kind of people you knowwwww, anyways Serbia has kinda of a tough group

Yeah, when someone ask, it's best to say "from Ex-Yugoslavia" that way no-one gets hurt

Serbia I agree didn't get the easiest group, it's gonna be tough.

IMO they take care of the African nations rather easily but will struggle with the top European powers (Germany) for sure.

[MrMonkey]

If Brazil screws up and finishes second, a round 16 match of maybe the best 2 teams in the world, Spain vs Brazil!!! Wow! Italy probably will play Spain in quarters if things go as planned?

[Intuitive_Edge]

missed it on tv

[FishFace5]

It (hopefully) does the job since corrupt FIFA assholes didn't

They couldn't do anything after the fact. You gotta blame the ref's. Somebody has to catch that blatant of a hand ball. He practically caught the ball in the box. I can't think of any scenario in any sport where you would go back after the fact and replay the game or even more dramatic change the winner under any circumstances.

[SRBI]

They couldn't do anything after the fact. You gotta blame the ref's. Somebody has to catch that blatant of a hand ball. He practically caught the ball in the box. I can't think of any scenario in any sport where you would go back after the fact and replay the game or even more dramatic change the winner under any circumstances.

Fish, the point is, NOTHING is being done about it.

At best, they are trying to blame Henry and fine him for it - something I don't understand.

The guy admitted (after the fact obv) his mistake - he wasn't about to shout that right after he scored the goal, then all of France would hate him instead. I just don't understand it.

And yes, the fair thing to do would replay the match, no matter how unbelievable that scenario is to you, it should have happened. Even behind closed doors with no fans.

I feel for the Irish ya heard, so unfair.

[FishFace5]

+1 SRBI. I just feel like there's little to be done now. Ref and Linesman should never be working at that level again and an apology issued to Ireland, but you can't play the game over. Don't get me wrong, I'm Irish, it's devastating to lose that way, but what can you do. Games are decided by bad calls all the time. It's the infamous "human error" factor, can't do anything about it. To go after Henry is a complete joke.

[Jimmy0607]

I think serbia can win their group

[SRBI]

Fish: You're right, what's done is done, too late to do anything about it now I guess.

Jimmy: It is by far the strongest (that I've seen) Serbian national team since the collapse of Yugoslavia.

[Karayilan9]

Serbia and Ivory Coast are dark horses, don't underestimate these teams, they have some world class talent playing in the top leagues, Ivory Coast have some serious talent and they have the added motivation of playing in Africa. The biggest problems these teams have is themselves, they usually either implode, have some stupid bust-ups or can't take the pressure, if they keep it together mentally they could do well and make us some nice $$$$.

[lakerboy]

If Brazil screws up and finishes second, a round 16 match of maybe the best 2 teams in the world, Spain vs Brazil!!! Wow! Italy probably will play Spain in quarters if things go as planned?

Great draw for you Italians monkey. Easiest group by far from first observations.

[mihaita666]

I think argentina is lucky, they may win that group easily, and catch their best form around semifinals.

qatar wants to be the host of 2018 world cup ??? that's what ive heard ?

[smitch124]

I think argentina is lucky, they may win that group easily, and catch their best form around semifinals.

qatar wants to be the host of 2018 world cup ??? that's what ive heard ?

If they do they are not one of the early favorites....

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/internationals/world-cup/to-host-2018-world-cup

[aneurysm00]

I was planning on downloading and watching the draw later. But I'm told that everything other than the actual draw was pretty drab.
Was the presentation as bad as the efforts of UEFA during their champions league draws?

[Shark79]

yes it was aneurysm00.

Not worth watching again.

All I can say it looks like a Brazil vs Netherlands final to me.

[lakerboy]

yes it was aneurysm00.

Not worth watching again.

All I can say it looks like a Brazil vs Netherlands final to me.

Netherlands never produces at the big stage. It aint gonna be any different this time. Plus their best striker is Van Persie and his injuries just wont be having him 100% for the finals.

[DwightShrute]

Czech Republic in 2014