2012, do you believe?

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  • Ced's shadow
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    • 11-27-09
    • 2986

    #1
    2012, do you believe?
    Talking to my friend Rob during my lunch time, the topic flourished along with the ideas the both of us have. I, on my side, believe of myself as a christian but it's not that I want you all believe I fully aware of all the prophecies in the book of Revelations because I do not have them very clear, all as a matter of not reading the Bible thoroughly. On the other hand we have Rob who is a full Adventist of the 7th day, and catholic fellow in the past, very into his religion.

    He made me realize I live in a cave in Mars (or basically just sleep and work) and started our conversation with what is happening in the world right now, Obama backing up Israel against their conflict with Iran and therefore fighting against Russia (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), comparing the timeline the previous World wars had and due to the fact that warfare technology has grown to an outstanding level made us think of the possibility Mayans could actually be close (if not totally accurate) about their predictions on 2012.

    As the conversation about the discoveries and inventions we went into the religious side of it and started filtering it through the Revelations made in the bible, the 4 riders, the mark on the sky, Jesus coming back to Earth, 44000 fellahs disappearing, atmosphere turned into fire, etc... 3 years from now will not suffice for all this since after the chase, all that is left on Earth will suffer 7 years before doomsday, or that's what we believe at least.

    Just felt like sharing a summary of the conversation looking forward to reading opinions about what will happen if anything happens at all.

    Have a great morning yourselves.
  • Glitch
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-08-09
    • 11795

    #2
    too long to read that whole thing but there are a lot of highly educated individuals including mathematicians, astrologists, astronomers, geologists, geo-physiscists, college professors and nasa employees who say that their scientific research points to a possibility of an increase in natural disasters due to anticipated conditions and situations that will be prevelant around that time period.

    Who are we to say oh its not gonna happen, or even that it is. i'll respect and appreciate the theories and their sharing them with us if nothing else.

    PS. maybe y2k DID happen and we're all dead. deeep......
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    • konck
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      • 10-17-06
      • 12554

      #3
      Live dont fear
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      • Hoja Verdes
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        • 08-23-06
        • 1403

        #4
        Originally posted by Ced's shadow
        Talking to my friend Rob during my lunch time, the topic flourished along with the ideas the both of us have. I, on my side, believe of myself as a christian but it's not that I want you all believe I fully aware of all the prophecies in the book of Revelations because I do not have them very clear, all as a matter of not reading the Bible thoroughly. On the other hand we have Rob who is a full Adventist of the 7th day, and catholic fellow in the past, very into his religion.

        He made me realize I live in a cave in Mars (or basically just sleep and work) and started our conversation with what is happening in the world right now, Obama backing up Israel against their conflict with Iran and therefore fighting against Russia (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), comparing the timeline the previous World wars had and due to the fact that warfare technology has grown to an outstanding level made us think of the possibility Mayans could actually be close (if not totally accurate) about their predictions on 2012.

        As the conversation about the discoveries and inventions we went into the religious side of it and started filtering it through the Revelations made in the bible, the 4 riders, the mark on the sky, Jesus coming back to Earth, 44000 fellahs disappearing, atmosphere turned into fire, etc... 3 years from now will not suffice for all this since after the chase, all that is left on Earth will suffer 7 years before doomsday, or that's what we believe at least.

        Just felt like sharing a summary of the conversation looking forward to reading opinions about what will happen if anything happens at all.

        Have a great morning yourselves.
        I'd love to meet your friend Rob, sounds like the typical bible beater who almost hopes the world ends...I sometimes wish those Revelation types would just make their own world end in apocalyptic fashion, by placing their mouth around the end of a gun barrel.

        Scholars of various stripes have disputed the idea that a catastrophe will happen in 2012, suggesting that predictions of impending doom are found neither in classic Maya accounts nor in contemporary science. Mainstream Mayanist scholars argue that the idea that the Long Count calendar "ends" in 2012 misrepresents Maya history.[2][7] To the modern Maya, 2012 is largely irrelevant, and classic Maya sources on the subject are scarce and contradictory, suggesting that there was little if any universal agreement among them about what, if anything, the date might mean.[8]

        Meanwhile, astronomers and other natural scientists have rejected the apocalyptic forecasts, on the grounds that the anticipated events are precluded by astronomical observations, or are unsubstantiated by the predictions that have been generated from these findings.[9] NASA likens fears about 2012 to those about the Y2K bug in the late 1990s, suggesting that an adequate analysis should stem fears of disaster.[9]


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        • Ced's shadow
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          • 11-27-09
          • 2986

          #5
          Thanks for the inpu Hoja Verdes and, about Rob, he's a nice fellow who has his ideas and actually mispercieved his point of view, very open mided he is. I'll read wiki for awhile through the link you provided, thanks again sir.
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          • poker_dummy101
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            • 11-03-08
            • 6395

            #6
            mayans do not predict the world to end in 2012
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            • bradthebloke
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              • 07-26-09
              • 3175

              #7
              its gonna end on saturday if florida doesnt cover
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              • DrStale
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                • 12-07-08
                • 9692

                #8
                Always confuses me to a certain extent to see apparently intelligent people who follow any sort of specific religion.

                There is always a reason for the world to end. There is always global conflict and at any point in the last 50 years we could have seen a war-induced global disaster. Of course conspiracy theorists are now going to bring up any international issue in the next 3 years as "another sign that the world will end in 2012." Anyone who actually believes the world will end in 2012, or Jesus is coming back is mentally off-key.
                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                • blix177
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                  • 09-20-08
                  • 1520

                  #9
                  Man the world is so big, there is always going to be apart of the world that feels like it is Armageddon right now. The people in Somalia don't need to wait till 2012, it is 2012 for the last 10 years for them.
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                  • smitch124
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                    • 05-19-08
                    • 12566

                    #10
                    Every generation for hundreds of years has thought that the nature of their culture meets the criteria for the end of the world, so far they have all been wrong.
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                    • Shark79
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                      • 11-19-07
                      • 11211

                      #11
                      If it does end ... then why worry about $$ ... go get a loan and tell the bank to FVk OFF ... they aint getting it anyway.
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                      • betplom
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                        • 09-20-06
                        • 13444

                        #12
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                        • daggerkobe
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                          • 03-25-08
                          • 10744

                          #13
                          If anyone here believes in this....

                          Can I come by on Dec 20, 2012 and take all your stuff since you won't be needing them?
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                          • G's pks
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                            • 01-01-09
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                            #14
                            whohhhhh...can not help it... no the world is not ending...power posting time! Here goes!!!
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                            • G's pks
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                              • G's pks
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                                • G's pks
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                                  • G's pks
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                                    • G's pks
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                                      #19
                                      ok done...
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                                      • Ced's shadow
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                                        • 11-27-09
                                        • 2986

                                        #20
                                        Haha, power posting. Now, to make something clear, I'm not looking forward to seeing the world end before me, and, I don't think there's too much of a chance, as I said on the first post, just wanted to share the conversation I had with Rob as it was very interesting to me.
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                                        • tltaylor89
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                                          • 06-19-09
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                                          #21
                                          JJ Golds real hair will grow back in 2012 marking the beginning of the end
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                                          • Ced's shadow
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by tltaylor89
                                            JJ Golds real hair will grow back in 2012 marking the beginning of the end
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                                            • G's pks
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                                              • 01-01-09
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                                              #23
                                              wow ended up here again! One sec...power posting time again!
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                                              • G's pks
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                                                #24
                                                ok done continue on...great story...whatever it said!
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                                                • Ced's shadow
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                                                  • beach nut
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                                                    • 03-18-09
                                                    • 589

                                                    #26
                                                    Those Mayans were pretty smart, so smart that their civilization became extinct well before their calendar was even close to 2012.
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                                                    • accuscoresucks
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                                                      • 11-03-07
                                                      • 7160

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