You bet the Saints tonight then you will LOSE!

ZBOIZ · 11-30-09, 03:17 PM

Saints overrated????

Putting 40+ on the like 3 NFL teams and they are overrated??

You have to be a Vikings fan

ZBOIZ · 11-30-09, 03:18 PM

That weak secondary has 20 interceptions on the
year!

Regul8er · 11-30-09, 03:18 PM

Saints are not overrated in my opinion, but I do think the Patriots roll tonight.

B1GER1C828 · 11-30-09, 03:21 PM

They are overrated a bit...all their "big score" games have been vs nobodies...pats win tonight tho..good luck!

ZBOIZ · 11-30-09, 03:22 PM

Just for your guys info.

The Pats run a man to man defense and that's not what you want to run against a Saints offense. Shockey shouldn't be single covered! Bush will be single covered and that's a mismatch!! Colston will be single covered and he deserves a double cover. You also have Meachem and Henderson going deep with 1 on 1 coverage! The pats defense with that man scheme will get rolled tonight!

ZBOIZ · 11-30-09, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by B1GER1C828

They are overrated a bit...all their "big score" games have been vs nobodies...pats win tonight tho..good luck!

Overrated??

C'mon man!

gotemcoach1523 · 11-30-09, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

Just for your guys info.

The Pats run a man to man defense and that's not what you want to run against a Saints offense. Shockey shouldn't be single covered! Bush will be single covered and that's a mismatch!! Colston will be single covered and he deserves a double cover. You also have Meachem and Henderson going deep with 1 on 1 coverage! The pats defense with that man scheme will get rolled tonight!

agreed but i was wrong on the pitt game

B1GER1C828 · 11-30-09, 03:24 PM

Im not sure why thats funny? One of the easiest schedules in football...

gotemcoach1523 · 11-30-09, 03:24 PM

saints win this game but lose first round in playoffs

B1GER1C828 · 11-30-09, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

Just for your guys info. The Pats run a man to man defense and that's not what you want to run against a Saints offense. Shockey shouldn't be single covered! Bush will be single covered and that's a mismatch!! Colston will be single covered and he deserves a double cover. You also have Meachem and Henderson going deep with 1 on 1 coverage! The pats defense with that man scheme will get rolled tonight!

Originally posted by gotemcoach1523

agreed but i was wrong on the pitt game

and the same could be said about pats offense...they dont match up. and when it comes down to it Pats experience+bellicheck will rock saints inexperiance+sean payton...pats win

ZBOIZ · 11-30-09, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by B1GER1C828

Im not sure why thats funny? One of the easiest schedules in football...

The Patriots schedule is almost the same as the Saints!

IrishTim · 11-30-09, 03:28 PM

Come on ZBOIZ, no one can take you seriously when you back LSU and NO Saints in every game.

gotemcoach1523 · 11-30-09, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by B1GER1C828

and the same could be said about pats offense...they dont match up. and when it comes down to it Pats experience+bellicheck will rock saints inexperiance+sean payton...pats win

it just looks like to me ur a pats fan and u dont care. thats how i was in the steeler game last nite. in denial. goodluck bro.

ZBOIZ · 11-30-09, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by B1GER1C828

and the same could be said about pats offense...they dont match up. and when it comes down to it Pats experience+bellicheck will rock saints inexperiance+sean payton...pats win

Our defense is very different from the pats!

We have a pressure blitz scheme! Brady will be on his ass a lot tonight!

maseda17 · 11-30-09, 03:32 PM

Look there is no correct bet tonight in terms of who you like in this game. Either of these teams can win and it is hard to justify criticism on the other side of your bet. This is a very difficult game to call and let us not act on our own emotions of our personal bets that it is inevitable we are going to win. This is a pick'em in every sense.

ZBOIZ · 11-30-09, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by IrishTim

Come on ZBOIZ, no one can take you seriously when you back LSU and NO Saints in every game.

All I'm doing is telling you the type of defense the Pats run. Now if you think a man scheme will work on the saints offense than good for you!

pattymayo · 11-30-09, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by IrishTim

Come on ZBOIZ, no one can take you seriously when you back LSU and NO Saints in every game.

don't forget the Hornets

Carseller4 · 11-30-09, 03:38 PM

I'm very surprised that the Saints are only favored by 1-2 pts. They should be favored by at least 6. But that is OK, I'm jumping on the bookies mistake! Saints win big! 42-31

BTW RUSH, why are you listed as a "stiff" in the "Credit Report?"

kroyrunner89 · 11-30-09, 03:39 PM

Let's reduce each teams' schedule to opponents over .500 and see how they compare:

Saints: 3-0
offense: 9.21 yards/pass attempt, 4.0 yards/rush attempt, 16 offensive tds to 2 fgs
defense: 6.57 yards/pass attempt, 5.16 yards/rush attempt, 7 offensive tds to 6 fgs

Patriots: 2-2
offense: 6.99 yards/pass attempt, 3.73 yards/rush attempt, 11 offensive tds to 9 fgs
defense: 6.3 yards/pass attempt, 4.78 yards/rush attempt, 10 offensive tds to 3 fgs

As you can see, the Saints' biggest weakness is run defense, but the Patriots are bad at running the ball. Also, the Saints are much better at ending their drives with touchdowns rather than field goals, a big weakness of the Patriots' defense. On the reverse side of the ball, the Patriots settle for field goals too much (part of what cost them the Colts game), and the Saints' defense is good at holding opponents to field goals. The Saints will win this game.

B1GER1C828 · 11-30-09, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Carseller4

I'm very surprised that the Saints are only favored by 1-2 pts. They should be favored by at least 6. But that is OK, I'm jumping on the bookies mistake! Saints win big! 42-31 BTW RUSH, why are you listed as a "stiff" in the "Credit Report?"

vegas knows alot more than you.

lol blitz brady and welker will put up 200 yards...

obamaismyuncle · 11-30-09, 03:42 PM

Saints win by 6 tonight. Saints lose to Vikings in NFC Championship game.

B1GER1C828 · 11-30-09, 03:44 PM

I got pats +7.5 and over 50.5 in a teaser...so if saints win good for them just dont win by alot.

Slate · 11-30-09, 03:48 PM

This game is a lock for me because I already have three teams winning in a four team parlay, so tonight a have NO -1 1/2 for the fourth team of my parlay

So my money will be on NE for about 1/2 my winnings that I will get from my parlay

I have the parlay $200 to win $1700, so $900 on NE, quaranteed to make at least $700

Capybara · 11-30-09, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

All I'm doing is telling you the type of defense the Pats run. Now if you think a man scheme will work on the saints offense than good for you!

Z, the Pats don't have a single defense they play... they adjust it according to matchups, and according to what's working and what's not. There will DEFINITELY be wrinkles in there for Brees.

I am not going to dis' the Saints at all -- they look like the real deal. However, I just think the Pats will have more answers for what the Saints do than the Saints will have for what the Pats do.

A lot might come down to the health of the Pats O-line. I'm waiting to see who is out.

Serbone · 11-30-09, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

Saints overrated????

Putting 40+ on the like 3 NFL teams and they are overrated??

You have to be a Vikings fan

Saints have played VERY WEAK schedule (31st strongest) and NE has played tough schedule (10th strongest). Who has N.O. beat?

Still not sure N.O. has a good defense, DB's are banged up, not sure they can stop the run. N.O. has elite offense, yes, but question their "D", especially against an elite "O" like NE. NE defense is not elite, either, but is strong, MUCH more confident of them than N.O.

NE is more experienced in big games, more well balanced across all phases of the game, better proven coaching (except for that 4th and 2 vs. Indy, I know).

Should be a great game, but I like New England to cover.

tmorton · 11-30-09, 03:52 PM

I think the saints are very good this year... Good for them and the city!!! They are fun to watch and I hope all the best for them! The Colts woke up a sleeping giant though! New England might not loose again...

Carseller4 · 11-30-09, 03:52 PM

I think it is safe to say that the over is a given!

kenny123 · 11-30-09, 03:52 PM

fsdf

what makes u think they gonna lose..

Rush · 11-30-09, 03:52 PM

Thanks again kenny. Let's cash this baby in!

tigerbalm13 · 11-30-09, 04:01 PM

If the Patriots lift their defence, it wont be overs. Im on Patriots to win outright. Goodluck

kroyrunner89 · 11-30-09, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Serbone

Saints have played VERY WEAK schedule (31st strongest) and NE has played tough schedule (10th strongest). Who has N.O. beat compared to NE?

Still not sure N.O. has a good defense, DB's are banged up, not sure they can stop the run. N.O. has elite offense, yes, but question their "D", especially against another elite "O" like NE. NE defense is not elite, either, but is strong, MUCH more confident of them than N.O.

NE is more experienced in big games, more well balanced across all phases of the game, better proven coaching (except for that 4th and 2 vs. Indy, I know).

Should be a great game, but I like New England to cover.

See my post above comparing how each team has done against above .500 teams. The Patriots have only played one more than the Saints. How are the Patriots more balanced? They have absolutely no running game, yet another reason why they lost to the Colts, because they couldn't close the game out and run down the clock. The Saints' defense should also have Ellis back for this one, which will be a huge boost for them. Saints will win and cover

Iwinyourmoney · 11-30-09, 04:17 PM

gota love watchin a fanboy defend his team. This is why he's broke

lakerboy · 11-30-09, 04:20 PM

I love how people think the Saints are so great. They should win tonight I mean they are at home with that big crowd factor and the greatest offense of all time bla bla bla. I would rather have Brady and Belichick then Brees and Payton anyday. This game should be a good lesson for the Saints for the playoffs.

paco · 11-30-09, 04:26 PM

Patriots are the LOCK of the Year !