USC is so overrated and the entire PAC-10!!!!!

[lyon804]

Guys, I got an opportunity to watch some PAC 10 football late Saturday Nite. I live in the south and we always believed the west to be weak. During USC's run of dominance over the last decade they might have had 1 or 2 good teams. They have been way over hyped for too long being on the "left coast". It is puzzling this team is still ranked. The whole conference is a joke. I know Washington St is the the worst in that conference, but I do not see how UCLA scored 40+ a few weeks back on them. USC sure got small and slower in a hurry. They once had some athletes. What happened out west?

I know some of you left coasters will not think highly of these comments. Keep in mind I watched several SEC games over the weekend and there is no comparison.

The SEC's middle of the road teams this year such as Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, LSU would consistently beat anything that conference has.

[Fishhead]

IOWA defeated the best team in the PAC-10 by double digits.........ARIZONA.

[teaserpleaser]

IOWA defeated the best team in the PAC-10 by double digits.........ARIZONA.

come on fish we all know Oregon is the best team in the pac-10

[lyon804]

IOWA defeated the best team in the PAC-10 by double digits.........ARIZONA.

Exactly!

[smitch124]

Arizona is not the best team in the Pac-10 and the USC/UCLA game was awful. But how is the Pac-10 overrated? Who is rating it high? The SEC gets mad credit all the time and rightly so they are the best conference. Don't understand all the angst

[lyon804]

Arizona is not the best team in the Pac-10 and the USC/UCLA game was awful. But how is the Pac-10 overrated? Who is rating it high? The SEC gets mad credit all the time and rightly so they are the best conference. Don't understand all the angst

USC and several others would not be ranked playing the SEC scheduele. No angst...... Just facts.

[smitch124]

Maybe so, why is it such an issue?

[lyon804]

Maybe so, why is it such an issue?

No issues. Just stating my opinion. Kinda like assholes... We all have one.

[smitch124]

I wish there were a playoff so all the top teams in the top conferences would be more willing to play each other non-conference. Would make the regular and "post" season better.

[FishFace5]

Now don't lose your minds SEC guys. But imo there is much more parity in college football this year than in years past. Are you guys really that impressed with the middle of the SEC this year? You guys would be all over the SEC every time in matchups against lets say stanford\oregon\arizona on neutral fields? I wouldn't be. The Big 12 is the overrated conference this year imo. Texas gets stomped in the championship game if they even get by Nebraska. The top 10 has representation from every BCS conference and the only imposter of those 10 is Boise and it's not there fault, they beat who they played. What team from the SEC would you like to move up? What team from another conference would u move down? SEC is the strongest conference but not by as much this year.

[lyon804]

The SEC is strong again this year. Look at how Georgia handled that overhyped ACC team down the street. I think Georgia, LSU, Arkansas would beat anybody outside there conference consistently. The size and speed of the SEC is not rivaled in any other conference.

[eberetta1]

hey, usc made me some money earlier in the year, so I am not complaining.

[FishFace5]

That team down the street lost the guy who makes the offense go. If those two teams play 10 games without injury GT wins 9 out of 10. You like Georgia over Oregon? Arkansas over say Cincinnati or even West Virginia? LSU over Ohio State or infamous USC? The middle of the SEC isn't nearly as impressive as ur making it seem.

[lyon804]

That team down the street lost the guy who makes the offense go. If those two teams play 10 games without injury GT wins 9 out of 10. You like Georgia over Oregon? Arkansas over say Cincinnati or even West Virginia? LSU over Ohio State or infamous USC? The middle of the SEC isn't nearly as impressive as ur making it seem.

Las Vegas oddsmakers sure didn't seem to think so. They were favored by 9-10 most places at kickoff. My opinion made me some money. I took the Dawgs plus the points and was running my mouth on the phone with a freind when I sent my wager +280 ML. It was canclled... "off the board", but they had not started yet. I knew the pts would work when they wouldn't accept my ML bet.

[Fishhead]

It appears that the BIG TEN is quietly becoming the best football conference of the season.

They should roll in the majority of their bowl games.

[FishFace5]

9-10 points is a pretty solid favorite. I would love to know what book didn't take ur ML bet. Like I said GT wins that game 9 out of 10 times in my opinion. Even with that half time lead if nesbitt doesn't get hurt GT wins.

[lyon804]

It appears that the BIG TEN is quietly becoming the best football conference of the season.

They should roll in the majority of their bowl games.

Are you serious?? Your Iowa would have lost weeks earlier to Indiana had the refs not helped them. I know they won going away, but it took them awhile to get there shit together. Besides the BIG 10 has took some ass whoopins in the title game this decade to SEC teams.

Bottomline, what has the SEC teams done this decade when they make the title game??In the South we consider the SEC championship the title game.

[poker_dummy101]

9-10 points is a pretty solid favorite. I would love to know what book didn't take ur ML bet. Like I said GT wins that game 9 out of 10 times in my opinion. Even with that half time lead if nesbitt doesn't get hurt GT wins.

If the spread is 9.5-10 the favorite has a chance of winning 75-77% of the time assuming fair odds.

[lyon804]

[quote=FishFace5;2660894]9-10 points is a pretty solid favorite. I would love to know what book didn't take ur ML bet. Like I said GT wins that game 9 out of 10 times in my opinion. Even with that half time lead if nesbitt doesn't get hurt GT wins.[/quot



The Greek didn't take it. I submitted it 8:01PM eastern. They took my Georgia bet plus the pts.

Down 14 pts and was gonna win. How often does that happen? Besides GT had only beaten them once in like the last ten years and had won on there campus in many years against Georgia.

G.T. is a good team, but had not really been tested. Who had they played??

[FishFace5]

The game began at 8. It was prob off the board because it had started already. GT has actually played a pretty tough schedule. Beating ranked teams such as Clemson, Miami, UNC and Virginia Tech.

[lb49ers]

As I recall, Tennessee lost to UCLA earlier this season. UCLA isn't a very good football team either. There will always be debates about which conferences are stronger. No doubt the SEC is always on top as far as public opinion. Does it really matter which conference is stronger as long as you make off the games you bet.

[lyon804]

As I recall, Tennessee lost to UCLA earlier this season. UCLA isn't a very good football team either. There will always be debates about which conferences are stronger. No doubt the SEC is always on top as far as public opinion. Does it really matter which conference is stronger as long as you make off the games you bet.

Sorry, I guess I upset a left coaster. Yea, your right.UCLA did beat UT. I think the game would be much different now. The PAC 10 is not the same. USC use to bring the conference up when they were strong. USC shouldn't even be ranked.

[Mac4Lyfe]

It appears that the BIG TEN is quietly becoming the best football conference of the season.

They should roll in the majority of their bowl games.

Fish, I know your an Iowa homer but you should know better then posting that garbage above. The B10 is a joke of a conference. What signature win has any team in the Big10 have out of conference? OSU over Navy? The conference is very down with Michigan being so bad. I follow the conference a lot and this is the worse the B10 has ever been.

Have you seen the latest Sagarin conference rankings...? The B10 is last among the 6 bcs conferences and it's really not close. Expect the B10 to get stomped on this year like last year... 1-7

CONFERENCE CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS

1 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 80.84 81.11 ( 1) 12
2 PAC-10 (A) = 79.40 78.28 ( 2) 10
3 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 76.39 76.26 ( 3) 12
4 BIG EAST (A) = 76.30 76.24 ( 4) 8
5 BIG 12 (A) = 74.88 75.28 ( 5) 12
6 BIG TEN (A) = 72.32 72.73 ( 6) 11
7 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 70.00 68.60 ( 8) 3
8 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 68.58 69.48 ( 7) 9
9 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 66.71 67.15 ( 9) 9
10 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 64.92 64.81 ( 10) 12

[HoldEmHook!!]

That team down the street lost the guy who makes the offense go. If those two teams play 10 games without injury GT wins 9 out of 10. You like Georgia over Oregon? Arkansas over say Cincinnati or even West Virginia? LSU over Ohio State or infamous USC? The middle of the SEC isn't nearly as impressive as ur making it seem.

arkansas could easily match Cinn. in scoring and eventualy pull away....ohio st. vs Lsu the buckeyes dont score....MissSt. would beat stanford....Oregon would struggle to keep up with Ole miss....and Clemson found out about the sec getting smashed by Scarolina...so Scarolina would take care of Oregon st. or usc

[lb49ers]

Not upset at all. It makes for a good topic as to debate which conference is the best. Last year the Pac-10 wasn't very good in their out of conference games but did well during the bowl season. What makes one conference stronger than the other, their bowl results or their out of conference schedule.

[BigdaddyQH]

IOWA defeated the best team in the PAC-10 by double digits.........ARIZONA.

How utterly stupid can you be fhishead? You do not have a clue.

[AlwaysDrawing]

LOL at the rankings. As a sports bettor, you would be better off capping games than worrying about popular rankings.

Sure, USC isn't as good as they have been this year--they lost 11 (that's right ELEVEN) starters to the NFL after last season. It's incredible that they can still win 8, 9 or maybe 10 games in a season after losing that many players.

They have a freshman QB. He's not been that great. Next year, I'll bet he'll start putting up more numbers as he gains experience, confidence, and strength. At this time last year, he was in high school.

They also beat Ohio State (the best team in the Big 10), and got crushed by Stanford and Toby Gerhart. The truth be told, I'll be taking Arizona against the Trojans this week, but if USC wins that game, they more than deserve to be ranked.

[patblue03]

no doubt

yeah, this is an easy pick AZ +7 for sure

[LLXC]

Pac 10 has been good in bowls recently, I think. This year...fading them.