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  • stump
    SBR MVP
    • 09-14-05
    • 1716

    #1
    Vip
    Thsi is a book that has dramatically dropped in my opinion.

    Second time this situation happens... request withdrawal, regular mail, takes 2 weeks... ok, i'm not in a hurry.

    2 weeks comes and goes now they tell me, they have to do E-check back to my account.

    Funny thing is the same thing happened in reverse about 2 months ago, do echeck request, after 3 weeks and them canceling it twice, they have to send me a check, which takes 14 days. customer service dept moves like a snail, nobody knows what they are doing.

    All though vip never had the best lines, i had always felt my money was safe and i could get it quickly, i guess those days are gone, time to reduce my outs even more.
  • SBR_John
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-12-05
    • 16471

    #2
    Originally posted by stump

    2 weeks comes and goes now they tell me, they have to do E-check back to my account.

    Funny thing is the same thing happened in reverse about 2 months ago, do echeck request, after 3 weeks and them canceling it twice, they have to send me a check, which takes 14 days. customer service dept moves like a snail, nobody knows what they are doing.
    This is an unfortunate all to common occurance at many books currently. We are all painfully aware that the books have processor problems. This is a time that customer service should be at its best. Instead, mangement has lost interest in this area. Very unfortunate for the players and the industry.
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    • mockingboy
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-22-06
      • 162

      #3
      I just got an email saying they are switching processors and can not process withdrawals until May 31st.

      Anyone else receive the same thing?
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      • bigjp5091
        SBR High Roller
        • 04-26-07
        • 108

        #4
        I got the message two days ago, and they were nice enough to tell me I was welcome to redeposit my withdrawal request and continue gambling with it.
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        • mockingboy
          SBR High Roller
          • 12-22-06
          • 162

          #5
          I am starting to get nervous with the CS on the online chat for vip.com. THey don't seem to have any consistent information or know what they are talking about. They seem to not be able to identify the latest withdrawal I made, which was Monday.

          I will post conversations shortly, if necessary.
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          • WWTSblows
            SBR High Roller
            • 10-14-06
            • 161

            #6
            Are all of these check w/d's?
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            • bigjp5091
              SBR High Roller
              • 04-26-07
              • 108

              #7
              I have two pending check w/d's and one e-check w/d.
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              • sergfro
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 09-20-05
                • 604

                #8
                How is it that all these A books taking weeks for check withdrawls? my last two withdrawls via check with wagerweb took less than 3 business days.
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                • The Heim
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 03-19-07
                  • 29

                  #9
                  There is definitely a problem with VIP and I think it all stems
                  from the Salt Lake City busts and the processors involved...

                  I've collected 5 figures from them in 3 months no problems, now
                  ** is done...e-check has restrictions all coinciding with the afore-
                  mentioned busts....

                  They claim they'll have check by Fedex soon...we'll see, after all
                  they're trained to tell you what you want to hear.....
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                  • stump
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-14-05
                    • 1716

                    #10
                    They told me as well that Fed Ex withdrawals should start again next week, but as others have said customer service is shaky now and its because the people running this place have no idea what they are doing. Time to get the money out of heer
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                    • bigjp5091
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 04-26-07
                      • 108

                      #11
                      Withdrawal Update

                      Just had this talk with the CS dept.:

                      One of our Representatives will be with you in a moment
                      All staff are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
                      You are now chatting with Gilbert
                      Gilbert: Thanks for contacting us at VIP.com - How may I help you?
                      You: Checking on the status of my three withdrawal requests.
                      Gilbert: One moment please.
                      Gilbert: Thank you for your patience.
                      Gilbert: Josh, the ACH withdrawal was send out today. The other pending amount will be send out to your checking account as well in the next couple of days. The reason is because our processor is not able to send out check to USA.
                      Gilbert: We will delete the pending amount and request e-check withdrawals instead.
                      You: Does this include the request from 5/1?
                      You: If I understand you, the ACH requested last week was sent today, and the two checks will be refunded and sent by ACH in the next few days?
                      Gilbert: No that was send out on the 18th of May.
                      Gilbert: You should be receiving that check in the next couple of days.
                      Gilbert: No only one check will be cancelled.
                      Gilbert: The one of the 1st of May, has been mailed out already.
                      You: 10 business days on that check roughly?
                      Gilbert: More or less. We hope it goes faster as of now.

                      We'll see what happens.
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                      • mockingboy
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 12-22-06
                        • 162

                        #12
                        Any news from anyone on VIP.com and their new processor?
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                        • MaxDemo
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 05-29-07
                          • 137

                          #13
                          IMO VIP is a crap book that lowers limits..hates winners...and has started to slow pay. I was asked not to play there after turning 1k into 25k in about 2 weeks. I made a ** deposit and they still asked for all the document BS that some books make you do(which I dont mind for a CC deposit and Echeck) but for a **...you have to be joking me. It took 2 weeks and help from another site but I did get my money and was shown the door. This all happened long before the BOS fiasco
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                          • katstale
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-07-07
                            • 3924

                            #14
                            I never had trouble getting paid there--but have not played there in over a year for the reasons stated previous. They will show winners to the door. Similar to 5 Dimes. I was told they didn't want my action, but both places paid me without incident. Funny thing abt VIP. They keep sending me emails encouraging me to use my "VIP" points. At least Tony took me off the email list!!
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              This is a C- book now
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                              • LargeMouthBass
                                Restricted User
                                • 03-18-07
                                • 1095

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MaxDemo
                                IMO VIP is a crap book that lowers limits..hates winners...and has started to slow pay. I was asked not to play there after turning 1k into 25k in about 2 weeks. I made a ** deposit and they still asked for all the document BS that some books make you do(which I dont mind for a CC deposit and Echeck) but for a **...you have to be joking me. It took 2 weeks and help from another site but I did get my money and was shown the door. This all happened long before the BOS fiasco
                                I don't care about VIP but how the hell did you do this? Can you elaborate? Thanks
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                                • bigjp5091
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 04-26-07
                                  • 108

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by katstale
                                  I never had trouble getting paid there--but have not played there in over a year for the reasons stated previous. They will show winners to the door. Similar to 5 Dimes. I was told they didn't want my action, but both places paid me without incident. Funny thing abt VIP. They keep sending me emails encouraging me to use my "VIP" points. At least Tony took me off the email list!!
                                  I think we can all agree things were different a year ago.
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                                  • MaxDemo
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 05-29-07
                                    • 137

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by LargeMouthBass
                                    I don't care about VIP but how the hell did you do this? Can you elaborate? Thanks

                                    I have to admit that it doesnt happen allot. I usually am an all in bettor, I roll the $$ 1k to win 1k (minus the juice) and so forth. Back then their limits were much higher and I got lucky and got on one of those rolls. I remember hitting 2 (4 team parlays) that each paid over 4k...and alot of 2 teamers. It was like a game...I would call in a bet and they would put me on hold and ask the mananger if they would take the bet and they usually did.

                                    I was at the Wynn this last weekend and cleared 5k in Bacarrat....but I owed them 27k from the last month when I went. I just flew in Friday night (arrived at 11:30 pm) and left back to Houston early Sun monring(left at 6:45 am). I never usually stay for longer than 36hrs when I go to Vegas because I have to get back to work on Monday.
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                                    • doodle2576
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 06-05-07
                                      • 29

                                      #19
                                      In the same boat.....

                                      I'm in the same boat with not getting paid. I requested a payout on 04/29 and have yet to receive anything. I was told a week ago that the $500.00 check was finally sent on May 18th. I have my doubts though since I still haven't received it after 18 days. I also had a $1,000.00 payout requested that they cancelled and put back into my account. They said I could get it via e-check. That money is still showing as pending in my account after a week. All I get is excuses from them.
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                                      • mockingboy
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-22-06
                                        • 162

                                        #20
                                        So everyone is now having real negative experiences with VIP? Anyone received any payouts over the past two weeks or know any updates? THey emailed all their clients saying they were switching processors but I have no idea what has happened since then. Anyone? Bill?
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                                        • bigjp5091
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 04-26-07
                                          • 108

                                          #21
                                          I'm Still Waiting...$5500 Check from 5/1 that I was told was sent on 5/8, then again on 5/18. 3 seperate $3000 wire transfers from 5/30, 5/31 and 6/1. And another $10,000 still in the account. I fear they are beginning the trail of lies that other books have been putting us through.
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                                          • mockingboy
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 12-22-06
                                            • 162

                                            #22
                                            Any Moderators heard any news or want to throw anything in?
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                                            • The Heim
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 03-19-07
                                              • 29

                                              #23
                                              ok...now they've dumped check by mail....

                                              that light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming
                                              train...
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                                              • mockingboy
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 12-22-06
                                                • 162

                                                #24
                                                At least I deposited with my debit & Credit Cards....I will have some recourse if they go down in flames.


                                                It would be great if any of the moderators could help all of us get an update of what is going on over there?
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                                                • Tunes
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 02-28-07
                                                  • 234

                                                  #25
                                                  Vip

                                                  Waiting 6 business days now for an e-check w/d for $5000. was told yesterday their e-checks are taking 7-10 days to hit, but with all of this talk about people having problems i'm not feeling all warm and fuzzy.

                                                  i agree that hearing from the mods would be welcome.
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                                                  • mockingboy
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 12-22-06
                                                    • 162

                                                    #26
                                                    I spoke with them on the phone today...At least they were honest....

                                                    The payout CS person I spoke with said it should hit my account in 5-7 days, but "they were still unsure about the timing because of the new processor and they are waiting to hear some customer feedback". At least they emailed their whole customer base to all of us there would be a delay because of the switching of processors.

                                                    I am more convinced they are looking for ways to pay customers, but they have a new processor and there may be a slight learning curve.

                                                    The first withdrawals with the new processor began May 31, so if people requested then, you should be receiving funds by this Friday I would imagine. The new processor is supposed to be faster.

                                                    People should post as they receive their funds.
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                                                    • The Heim
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 03-19-07
                                                      • 29

                                                      #27
                                                      thanks for the above information.....waiting for $6,000 via e-check
                                                      since last Wed...never got the e-mail re new processor or the May
                                                      31 date all they said is they would process it on Wed the 30th....
                                                      still waiting.....

                                                      I disagree with your assessment re them finding outs to pay...
                                                      most if not all e-check payouts involve US accounts.....most are
                                                      not going to re up with them because of the constant delays and
                                                      they know that...their priorities are with their non US accounts in
                                                      case you haven't noticed....
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                                                      • mockingboy
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 12-22-06
                                                        • 162

                                                        #28
                                                        Check your Spam folder, if you have one, for the VIP email. The one I received went directly to the spam folder.
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                                                        • doodle2576
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 06-05-07
                                                          • 29

                                                          #29
                                                          Just another excuse.....

                                                          to buy them a couple, three, four more weeks. After talking to them yesterday, i've just decided to write the money off. I can't believe a word they say anymore. I am in the process of creating multiple blogs and contacting several webmasters I know to get the word out to other players. Deposits at VIP, Nine.com and BetGameDay are not safe. The excuse I like the best is: "Just because the money is still showing in your account doesn't mean it hasn't been sent." This means absolutely nothing. Just because they sent it to a processor doesn't mean it's any closer in getting to you. It means nothing until the processor sends it. Which they may never do. It's just another way that VIP is trying to mislead its players who can't get their money.

                                                          Join me in the fight against this. Post your problems with them at every forum, blog, etc. you go to. Let other people know what's going on. It's the best way we can protect each other from this happening to us.
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                                                          • The Heim
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 03-19-07
                                                            • 29

                                                            #30
                                                            I agree with the above....if you are waiting for under $1000 you
                                                            might get it....anything above that forget it....

                                                            They told me they have check via Fedex available now...does
                                                            anyone see it on their payout menu?

                                                            This is sadly starting to resemble Cascade's plight...from A rated
                                                            to a D within a month...
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                                                            • mockingboy
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-22-06
                                                              • 162

                                                              #31
                                                              Didn't someone post yesterday that their e-check cleared yesterday?
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                                                              • Tunes
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 02-28-07
                                                                • 234

                                                                #32
                                                                Vip

                                                                Still waiting for 2 e-check withdrawals requested last Tuesday and Wednesday. Today's story from them.....


                                                                Thank you for contacting us.

                                                                The withdrawal usually takes between 7-10 business days. But we just received notification of some of our players that they got it in 5 business days. So it's a case by case basis. But your withdrawal should not take longer than Monday. It can even hit this week.

                                                                Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
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                                                                • Seattle Slew
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-02-06
                                                                  • 7373

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I think your money is safe there, but they may eventually just drop all US customers due to the headaches with processing.

                                                                  I know people said the same about Neteller, but I think VIP will not run with your cash.
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                                                                  • The Heim
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 03-19-07
                                                                    • 29

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Seattle Slew
                                                                    I think your money is safe there, but they may eventually just drop all US customers due to the headaches with processing.

                                                                    I know people said the same about Neteller, but I think VIP will not run with your cash.
                                                                    Honestly, what do they have to lose?...as I stated previously they know that the US market is done and the few they have will not re-deposit anyways...so they lose a few (non US) just from the negative feedback on these forums, what do they care they just saved tens of thousands of dollars in payouts.....

                                                                    If they were open to US business I would concur but once they dumped Canadian and US players the handwriting was on the wall.

                                                                    I've been a big optimist and have gotten paid usually on time since the new law but this time
                                                                    I think my skepticism re payment is warranted...
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                                                                    • mockingboy
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 12-22-06
                                                                      • 162

                                                                      #35
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