I am down $300,000 at BetPhoenix in 2 months.....

[accuscoresucks]

thats a large stack nicky you betting the other side??
most i would lay in 3 months is 40k
granted premium market and 3% wagers

[JohnnyC]

now that's what i'm very very scared about. good point, johnny boy.. but Fred guaranteed me 100% that even if i make a great comeback that i will NEVER be lowered my limits or be put on delay..

they better not do this to me or i will go nuts.. fred sounded honest when he said they'd never do this to me no matter what..

Sounds like you gotta retirement plan then. If they actually stick to this and never take off your -105 pricing on your way back to even....i see an A rating in their future.

[TomG]

now that's what i'm very very scared about. good point, johnny boy.. but Fred guaranteed me 100% that even if i make a great comeback that i will NEVER be lowered my limits or be put on delay..

they better not do this to me or i will go nuts.. fred sounded honest when he said they'd never do this to me no matter what..

Get this stuff in writing boys. Otherwise you will be surprised how fast Richie and Fred turn the cold shoulder when you win back your first 100k.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Are you betting bad numbers? You must be.

[JohnnyC]

Are you betting bad numbers? You must be.

U mean like off market numbers or bad bets? Because there is no way it's the latter for Nicky, even the best can go on big losing losing streaks when getting the best of it.

Nicky Tom brings up a great point, get Richie to write something down. Hell get him in this thread promising not to turn the lights out on your way beck to the top.

[MonkeyF0cker]

U mean like off market numbers or bad bets? Because there is no way it's the latter for Nicky, even the best can go on big losing losing streaks when getting the best of it.

Nicky Tom brings up a great point, get Richie to write something down. Hell get him in this thread promising not to turn the lights out on your way beck to the top.

I'm well aware of the extremely simple concepts of random walk and variance. Thanks. I was asking the guy actually placing the wagers, not someone that somehow thinks he knows what that person is wagering. Basically, you're saying that BP has no fukkin clue what they're doing. And what exactly is a "bad bet" if it's not a bad number anyway?

[durito]

Everyone else has a delay and cut limits there.

[Nicky Santoro]

when richie ran betmania, i was always put on that freakin 42 second delay.. i hated it. i told him i want to come back ONLY ONLY ONLY if i get taken off that fukkin delay.. he said ok we'll try it out..

to make a long story short, I have not won a bet there in 1 month and they love me now.. they really love me there now.. if the max on a game is 1,000$, like today for a quarter bet, the clerk would tell me, like tonight, sorry sir, it's 1k max. i'd say, just say it's me.. and i swear to GOD, he comes back and says, no problem sir, you got it.. LOL

they really think i am a loser, which they are right.. boys, when you can't win, you just can't win.. no matter what i bet, it's a loss.. I swear i get treated like royalty there. when i call, the women and men clerks become so polite to me like i am President Obama.. their tone changes. I am a celebrity there.. i deserve it after the amount of $$ i lost there. I paid for those recently renovated washrooms and paid for those 100 new plasma screens in their office..

Now if richie comes back to me in 1 month if i get really hot and then lowers my limits or puts me on delay, i will go nuts.. Freddy gave me his word 6x that NO WAY will they ever do this to me. time will tell..

[Bread]

Nicky I feel for you buddy. Keep your head up pally.

[JohnnyC]

I'm well aware of the extremely simple concepts of random walk and variance. Thanks. I was asking the guy actually placing the wagers, not someone that somehow thinks he knows what that person is wagering. Basically, you're saying that BP has no fukkin clue what they're doing. And what exactly is a "bad bet" if it's not a bad number anyway?

Well ya that's what I'm saying pal. And if you don't know that by now, well...thanks for paying for my lovesac.

Basically if you think Nicky is losing this on -ev plays ur a fukkin tool and go fk a monkey.

[tltaylor89]

roflI have to see the great comeback

[gomiamigo]

Oh, well if he said it 6 times it must be true.

As soon as you win $100k back you will be cut to reg limits if not sooner. You'll see. They'd be crazy not to.

[JohnnyC]

when richie ran betmania, i was always put on that freakin 42 second delay.. i hated it. i told him i want to come back ONLY ONLY ONLY if i get taken off that fukkin delay.. he said ok we'll try it out..

to make a long story short, I have not won a bet there in 1 month and they love me now.. they really love me there now.. if the max on a game is 1,000$, like today for a quarter bet, the clerk would tell me, like tonight, sorry sir, it's 1k max. i'd say, just say it's me.. and i swear to GOD, he comes back and says, no problem sir, you got it.. LOL

they really think i am a loser, which they are right.. boys, when you can't win, you just can't win.. no matter what i bet, it's a loss.. I swear i get treated like royalty there. when i call, the women and men clerks become so polite to me like i am President Obama.. their tone changes. I am a celebrity there.. i deserve it after the amount of $$ i lost there. I paid for those recently renovated washrooms and paid for those 100 new plasma screens in their office..

Now if richie comes back to me in 1 month if i get really hot and then lowers my limits or puts me on delay, i will go nuts.. Freddy gave me his word 6x that NO WAY will they ever do this to me. time will tell..

Nicky I don't like saying this but it sounds like Richie freerolled you on that delay. If you take 25k off him the first week - 100% you are taken off -105 and delayed.

Get Richie in here make him promise to give you the chance to get even.

[fsugolf]

but how much did you win??

[MonkeyF0cker]

Well ya that's what I'm saying pal. And if you don't know that by now, well...thanks for paying for my lovesac.

Basically if you think Nicky is losing this on -ev plays ur a fukkin tool and go fk a monkey.

Neither Nicky nor you know what the fuk +EV means.

[tltaylor89]

I have got to see Nicky win this money back it would be 1 of the great comebacks of 2010

[JohnnyC]

Neither Nicky nor you know what the fuk +EV means.

Sure pal.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Didn't you just get done saying that BP delays and limits players too quickly? LOL. And now they can't find their head from their ass (according to you) since they're increasing limits with no delay on a player that (again according to you even though you have absolutely no fukkin idea whether it's true or not) is betting all +EV numbers? Are you clinically retarded? Or do you just drool out of one side of your mouth?

[Nicky Santoro]

I have got to see Nicky win this money back it would be 1 of the great comebacks of 2010

thanks taylor much appreciate it.. and thanks to you too, johnny boy.. johnny, if you can come in here and get richie to guarantee me to never ever ever ever put me on delay or lower my limits, i will send you 300 pts your way... i doubt he'll ever do this though.. but Fred did promise me they'd never do this..

[MonkeyF0cker]

Hmm. Is Nicky betting bad numbers on BP and laying them off for a small loss elsewhere so he can get some ridiculous promises from a book? Wouldn't be the first time he's scammed a book.

[tullamore]

Hmm. Is Nicky betting bad numbers on BP and laying them off for a small loss elsewhere so he can get some ridiculous promises from a book? Wouldn't be the first time he's scammed a book.

Nicky, not being fully honest, who would have thought.

[JohnnyC]

Didn't you just get done saying that BP delays and limits players too quickly? LOL.

A rated books don't limit or delay sharp player like me, this is where they strive to be but they are not there yet.

Head from ass is relative. To people like me and Nicky all books are in this category. Most bookies don't have a firm grasp of a simple concept like EV and the long run. But then there's people like you who need to shill just to pay the rent.

[durito]

A rated books don't limit or delay sharp player like me, this is where they strive to be but they are not there yet.

Head from ass is relative. To people like me and Nicky all books are in this category. Most bookies don't have a firm grasp of a simple concept like EV and the long run. But then there's people like you who need to shill just to pay the rent.

What?

[tltaylor89]

What?

Double what

[MonkeyF0cker]

A rated books don't limit or delay sharp player like me, this is where they strive to be but they are not there yet.

Head from ass is relative. To people like me and Nicky all books are in this category. Most bookies don't have a firm grasp of a simple concept like EV and the long run. But then there's people like you who need to shill just to pay the rent.

Shill? LOL. I hardly even play online any more, dipshit. I'm a professional gambler that lives in Vegas. Show me one positive comment made about a book by me on this site, dumbfuk. Please keep talking out of the side of your ass. You just keep looking like even more of a fukkin moron.

[Nicky Santoro]

well, i don't know what you guys might take from this, but out of the 13,487 bets i have made there in 2.5 months, i'd say maybe only 4 times they did not move the line 3 to 8 cents right after my bet.. The avg i'd say is 5 cents.

boys, it don't matter, i am just a big loser.. i can't win anymore.. no matter how good a price i get on a game, i lose it..

[gotemcoach1523]

why would i want ur picks?!?!?!?!?!?!

[rm18]

if you bet the max phoenix moves the line does not matter what the bet is

[MonkeyF0cker]

U mean like off market numbers or bad bets? Because there is no way it's the latter...

Would you care to explain the difference between these two bets for a lowly shill like me, Mr. Sharp?

[durito]

well, i don't know what you guys might take from this, but out of the 13,487 bets i have made there in 2.5 months, i'd say maybe only 4 times they did not move the line 3 to 8 cents right after my bet.. The avg i'd say is 5 cents.

boys, it don't matter, i am just a big loser.. i can't win anymore.. no matter how good a price i get on a game, i lose it..

YOu don't play soccer, or props or derivatives, but you've made 13k bets at phoenix in the last 10 weeks?

[MonkeyF0cker]

This all adds up like 1+1 = 3, durito...

[Nicky Santoro]

YOu don't play soccer, or props or derivatives, but you've made 13k bets at phoenix in the last 10 weeks?

I play quarters, halves, almost every ALT line, tons and tons and tons of sides, totals, ML's.. etc.. etc..

if i tell you how much volume i bet there this weekend, you might collapse on the spot.. NO FUKKIN JOKE.. fred has never seen anything like it he said..

Let's just say i complete my very high rollovers in 7 days.

i am a sick man...

[BigDaddy]

look if this story is true it doesn't take someone that smart to figure out that if he is down a figure to BP that he is up a good figure at other books

greek
pinny
cris

etc...


this book gives these huge bonuses and they give them to you reload after reload.

hell they had a name your own bonus promo

i know of someone that got about 10 straight 100% cash bonuses on reups.

its just when you run that bonus the wrong way into a big balance then you might have trouble depending on who the book is.

it's not that hard to get a ton of bets in with all the options phoenix has and if you have a big enough bankroll this story could be true

but honestly who really gives a ****?

[durito]

I play quarters, halves, almost every ALT line, tons and tons and tons of sides, totals, ML's.. etc.. etc..

if i tell you how much volume i bet there this weekend, you might collapse on the spot.. NO FUKKIN JOKE.. fred has never seen anything like it he said..

Let's just say i complete my very high rollovers in 7 days.

i am a sick man...

So you do play derivatives.

I get my entire balance in play there most days, I get it. Maybe not though, everyone else seems to be winning recently, and getting delayed by that former 5dimes prick.

[tltaylor89]

look if this story is true it doesn't take someone that smart to figure out that if he is down a figure to BP that he is up a good figure at other books

greek
pinny
cris

etc...


this book gives these huge bonuses and they give them to you reload after reload.

hell they had a name your own bonus promo

i know of someone that got about 10 straight 100% cash bonuses on reups.

its just when you run that bonus the wrong way into a big balance then you might have trouble depending on who the book is.

it's not that hard to get a ton of bets in with all the options phoenix has and if you have a big enough bankroll this story could be true

but honestly who really gives a ****?

1700 people give a fuk check the page views people losing alot of money is a compelling story