So Ireland was fukked and Theirry Henry admitted it?

pavyracer · 11-20-09, 09:10 AM

It's not cheating. If a player got taken down in the box with a hard tackle and the ref didn't award a penalty kick does it mean the player commiting the obvious penalty which wasn't called is a cheater?

mihaita666 · 11-20-09, 09:36 AM

introducing chalengers would be a great addition....there are too many matches deceided, accidentally or not, by the refferees. For example, Man Utd - Man City....4 minutes of injury time, Utd scores in the 97 minute. Or a few years ago, when the same utd played against Tottenham, and a perfect goal for spurs was disallowed, as the ref said it didn't cross the line

Or take a look here (if you didn't know, the player who executes a freekick isn't allowed to touch the ball again untill another player has done it)

TurkzZ · 11-20-09, 09:40 AM

TurkzZ · 11-20-09, 09:52 AM

mihaita666 · 11-20-09, 10:19 AM

interesting point of view from roy keane...

Yabatumba · 11-20-09, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

It's not cheating. If a player got taken down in the box with a hard tackle and the ref didn't award a penalty kick does it mean the player commiting the obvious penalty which wasn't called is a cheater?

Don't be an IDIOT all your life "mate".

Jimmy0607 · 11-20-09, 10:44 AM

Bahrain vs Uzbekistan was replayed because of a bad ref call in the last WC qualifiers

Deuce · 11-20-09, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Jimmy0607

Bahrain vs Uzbekistan was replayed because of a bad ref call in the last WC qualifiers

Thats because the foul called wasn't even a foul it was made up.

pavyracer · 11-20-09, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Jimmy0607

Bahrain vs Uzbekistan was replayed because of a bad ref call in the last WC qualifiers

This is different though. The ref made a bad call by not enforcing the rules. You can't ask for a penalty to be retaken as a free kick.

In France/Ireland game the ref didn't make a call and FIFA considers it a judgement call same as a penalty not awarded, free kick, corner kick, offside, etc..which happens in every game.

mihaita666 · 11-20-09, 10:58 AM

it's pointless talking about such thing, the replay of a match

Dark Horse · 11-20-09, 11:10 AM

Flopping is cheating too. It has become so common that nobody cares anymore, but it does decide many games in an unfair way. Diving is premeditated. This hand ball was just an instinctive reaction. Unfortunate for the Irish, but not a huge deal on the scale of cheating. The Irish were better than expected, and they had their chances. They missed them. End of story.

TurkzZ · 11-20-09, 02:20 PM

Ireland should of defended the ball, cant be letting the ball bounce in the 6 yard box, also thye outplayed france but needed to score more goals to show for it.

G's pks · 11-20-09, 02:34 PM

The rules are clear...is official and will not be replayed! The call on the field will stand...time to move on.

G's pks · 11-20-09, 02:35 PM

Just like all the paid off umps with the yankeees games in the playoffs...sorry...

mihaita666 · 11-20-09, 02:36 PM

yeah, keane had a big big chance, he passed the goalie, but he couldn't catch the ball

twister · 11-20-09, 02:39 PM

Keane has been rubbish ever since he made his move to Liverpool. Then Tottenham had to be utterly stupid and sign him back.

moses millsap · 11-20-09, 03:06 PM

this is the start of the next world war

mihaita666 · 11-20-09, 03:32 PM

not quite, twister, keane at liverpool was a bad move, ut tottenham sold him for a bigger, significant bigger ammount, than what they've paid for when signing him in the winter

PuckOff · 11-20-09, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Deuce

I am Irish and don't like the fact the French fukked me.

Try living in Canada. The french (quebec frogs) try to phuk us all the time.

SRBI · 11-20-09, 03:53 PM

FIFA is so rigged it's not even funny!

You can actually make a TON of money from the qualifiers and World Cup as long as you can put yourself in the mind of the book. True story...

Karayilan9 · 11-20-09, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by SRBI

FIFA is so rigged it's not even funny!

You can actually make a TON of money from the qualifiers and World Cup as long as you can put yourself in the mind of the book. True story...

Also helps if you know the pollitics of the region, some games played in Africa, parts of Europe and Asia are the closest thing you'll to a lock if you know whats going on in the region.

About the game, it was cruel for Ireland but I doubt the game gets replayed.

They should bring in video technology for games like this, too much is at stake, each team should be given 2-3 chances to use it.

If Ireland were given the chance to challenge the goal in the game, this fiasco wouldn't have happened.

DwightShrute · 11-20-09, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by SRBI

FIFA is so rigged it's not even funny!

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No kidding! Canada didn't qualify?? Are you kidding me?

bruceBRUCEbruce · 11-20-09, 05:13 PM

worst part about that was Henry's celebration after the goal.

sportshandicap · 11-27-09, 11:52 AM

Typical reply from an Arsenal fan. Henry cheated not just once but twice... He should be thrown out of football. I just hope he loses all his sponsors ..Vah vah cheat. The Keane penalty against Georgia was dodgy but that was human error from the referee. Henry cheated plain and simple, anyone defending him is part of the problem.

demize21 · 11-27-09, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by jayc88

lol 2-3 challenges per game for each team is a ridicolous advice ,
we are not in the us , where play stops every 10 seconds .
This rule would destroy the game.

that just senseless naive talk grow up get in the real world soccer stops every 10 minutes/seconds anyway for a fake dive fake pain fake goals u name it, if anything its given everyone more respect for the us sports and the legitimacy which they are played handled etc

TurkzZ · 11-27-09, 12:12 PM

it would not destroy the game, it would make it fair, and it if there were 203 challenges a game taking max 30 secs to work out then whats the problem,

i belive Blatter likes it how it is, each time somthing like this happens footballs talked about everywhere, back of all the papers etc and thats how they want it lol

demize21 · 11-27-09, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades

Should be replayed, but don't bring in challenges or replays. For heavens sakes, there is a huge TV screen to see what happened in the stadium, open your eyes ref. Plus there are 2 linesmen, one on each side, how did they miss it.

I say replay the match, and Sunderland v Liverpool too.

replays are far worst than technology for one they will not get the same amount of fans to fill the stadium cause the same bs will happen they will lose more money that way and they will be admitting ok they cheated lets do it over with replays etc you take it to a neutral decision where it can be looked over and checked and the right call can be made instead of this match fixing cheating bs u got now look its working in the NFL NBA NHL made the games integrity stronger

for one how the hell do have gambling sites as your sponsors that should end it all right there

demize21 · 11-27-09, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by TurkzZ

it would not destroy the game, it would make it fair, and it if there were 203 challenges a game taking max 30 secs to work out then whats the problem,

i belive Blatter likes it how it is, each time somthing like this happens footballs talked about everywhere, back of all the papers etc and thats how they want it lol

atleast we have some people with legitimate reasoning on here!!!!
wow they are trying a new thing in Europa league with refs behind each goal whats that gonna prove, nothing if the ref is biased etc... i agree technology is the way to go just sad that its taking so long to catch up or is the man making to much money to finally push the button so to speak

demize21 · 11-27-09, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

Also helps if you know the pollitics of the region, some games played in Africa, parts of Europe and Asia are the closest thing you'll to a lock if you know whats going on in the region.

About the game, it was cruel for Ireland but I doubt the game gets replayed.

They should bring in video technology for games like this, too much is at stake, each team should be given 2-3 chances to use it.

If Ireland were given the chance to challenge the goal in the game, this fiasco wouldn't have happened.

get the multiples for this post and for the mengo under your name lets get that championship just pray goais finally beats SP or at worst goalless draw and we win i think its in the bag SP still without 2 of the 3 stars and looking like goias a little late are getting their form back also final match against sport might not even be played at sao paulo due to fan incident as of now they are waiting on final decision and sport have shown they can upset the big teams they might just play their hardest just cause they got demoted

Indecent · 11-27-09, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by sportshandicap

Typical reply from an Arsenal fan. Henry cheated not just once but twice... He should be thrown out of football. I just hope he loses all his sponsors ..Vah vah cheat. The Keane penalty against Georgia was dodgy but that was human error from the referee. Henry cheated plain and simple, anyone defending him is part of the problem.

Cheat: to violate rules dishonestly.

Henry has said it was a handball.... how does that make him dishonest? Did he just say he hand-balled it because he knew the game wouldn't be replayed? Is he that cocky that he "cheats", admits to it, and knows absolutely nothing will happen to him? It's just as likely that he is being honest about what happened.

You are mad at the wrong guy. Henry has been completely honest about the whole experience, and unintentional handballs aren't that uncommon. It's also not uncommon for a referee to miss a call. It sucks, but that's the way it is...

Do you honestly think they should throw him out over an accidental hand ball? Should we throw out anyone who doesn't immediately correct a referees error, (we would have no football) or should we do so only when it benefits Ireland?

Can you at least admit that most players would not have admitted to the handball as Henry did? Outkast already pointed out 1 example of Ireland taking a gift from the referee, why shouldn't they be banned? They took the missed call, scored, and actually celebrated!!! WHAT CHEATERS! BAN THEM! (rofl)