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  • gridironguy
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 04-17-07
    • 575

    #1
    3.75 months 'til football - how many B+ and higher books are safe?
    I would rather spread it around than play at only 2 or 3 books in the current climate. Out of the following B+ and higher rated books, which ones will be safe?

    note: I have only included books that accept U.S. Players.


    5 Dimes (A)

    Bestline Sports (B+)

    BoDog (A+)

    Bookmaker/DSI (A+)

    ABC Islands/Jazz (B+)

    Grande (B+)

    Legendz/The Pig (A)

    Heritage (B+)

    Greek/Jamaica (A+)

    Guardian/JustBet (B+)

    WSEX (A+)

    Matchbook (A-)

    Intertops (B+)


    Are there any other top, safe, reliable books that I have forgotten?
  • mockingboy
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-22-06
    • 162

    #2
    Vip?
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    • gridironguy
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 04-17-07
      • 575

      #3
      VIP does not accept U.S. players any longer.
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      • durito
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-03-06
        • 13173

        #4
        Matchbook is A- as of a couple of days ago
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        • mockingboy
          SBR High Roller
          • 12-22-06
          • 162

          #5
          But VIP accepts US players if you are already a platinum member.
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          • gridironguy
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 04-17-07
            • 575

            #6
            Let's talk new accounts only. Brand new people looking to open an account.
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82839

              #7
              diamond
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              • gridironguy
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-17-07
                • 575

                #8
                "diamond" is DSI right? Diamond Sports International?
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                • mavs1978
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 03-18-07
                  • 341

                  #9
                  matchbook
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82839

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gridironguy
                    "diamond" is DSI right? Diamond Sports International?
                    yes
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                    • WWTSblows
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 10-14-06
                      • 161

                      #11
                      Legendz is so weird, I've been waiting over 1 week now for a email of a simple question. Jazz, I've sent 3 emails over 3 months and zero have been answered.

                      Justbet has been very good, payouts have been smooth.
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                      • gridironguy
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 04-17-07
                        • 575

                        #12
                        Great info here guys. Thanks. Let's keep it going..
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                        • rmcaj
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 03-12-07
                          • 421

                          #13
                          Heritage Sports is a great book why they get little respect or little talk is beyond me. They have great customer service and offer solid bonuses. I'll be playing with them in the fall.
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                          • gridironguy
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 04-17-07
                            • 575

                            #14
                            Heritage is listed as a B+ book in the SBR Reviews so someone is paying attention!
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              only safe books right now are

                              bookmaker
                              bodog
                              wsex/matchbook
                              greek
                              5 dimes
                              jamacia
                              carib
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                              • gridironguy
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 04-17-07
                                • 575

                                #16
                                Let's keep the flow of great info going guys!

                                Who feels comfortable playing at smaller, younger books like:

                                Bestline
                                Legendz
                                Guardian
                                Intertops

                                etc?
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                                • Senator7
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-20-05
                                  • 1559

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  only safe books right now are

                                  bookmaker
                                  bodog
                                  wsex/matchbook
                                  greek
                                  5 dimes
                                  jamacia
                                  carib
                                  JJ is spot on with this post.
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                                  • freebie
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 1174

                                    #18
                                    Heritage will deactivate your account if you are inactive with them.

                                    Meaning not wagering or reload with them. You can always get re activated again, but it's a pain to do this every time.
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                                    • gridironguy
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 04-17-07
                                      • 575

                                      #19
                                      Freebie, how long does the account need to go inactive before they deactivate it?

                                      1 month? 2 months? longer?

                                      Thanks.
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                                      • rmcaj
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 03-12-07
                                        • 421

                                        #20
                                        when they deactivate your account all you have to do is call them and say. "reactivate me please." It takes 10 seconds.
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                                        • gridironguy
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 04-17-07
                                          • 575

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by rmcaj
                                          when they deactivate your account all you have to do is call them and say. "reactivate me please." It takes 10 seconds.
                                          I understand, but how long do they allow you to be inactive before deactivating your account?

                                          Calling in once or twice is fine, but multiple times becomes a hassle.
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                                          • hitbitritz
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-06-07
                                            • 242

                                            #22
                                            i think it's a month. it happened to me once. anyone that says heritage is not a safe book is flat out wrong.

                                            referencing posts above, whoever says bodog is safe is an idiot...i'm from the show me state, so fuxin show me, and the only thing i see is people from bodog fretting and waiting for payouts, see any heritage people doing that? no, because they're paid sameday or next day, everytime, no excuses.
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                                            • Bill Dozer
                                              www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                              • 07-12-05
                                              • 10894

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by WWTSblows
                                              Legendz is so weird, I've been waiting over 1 week now for a email of a simple question. Jazz, I've sent 3 emails over 3 months and zero have been answered.

                                              Justbet has been very good, payouts have been smooth.

                                              WWTSblows,

                                              Legendz management just called to ask if you could call them and/or give me the email you used to write them.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                Stick to what I say about books and disregard any other info you might have.
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                                                • gridironguy
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 04-17-07
                                                  • 575

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by hitbitritz
                                                  i think it's a month. it happened to me once. anyone that says heritage is not a safe book is flat out wrong.

                                                  referencing posts above, whoever says bodog is safe is an idiot...i'm from the show me state, so fuxin show me, and the only thing i see is people from bodog fretting and waiting for payouts, see any heritage people doing that? no, because they're paid sameday or next day, everytime, no excuses.
                                                  Good info here. Thx for sharing.
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                                                  • LargeMouthBass
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 03-18-07
                                                    • 1095

                                                    #26
                                                    Why even bother with other books? I mean how many books do you really need? Stick with the A books.
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                                                    • gridironguy
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 04-17-07
                                                      • 575

                                                      #27
                                                      Good question, Bass. I'm very uncomfortable having more than 7-10% of my BR in any given book, A+, A, A-, or otherwise.

                                                      Ideally, I'd have between 10 and 14 books with very low balances at each one. Emphasis on the words "very low".
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                                                      • hitbitritz
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 04-06-07
                                                        • 242

                                                        #28
                                                        just do what i do, deposit and w/d immediately. i don't keep any more than 2K in any 1 book at a time. i've never been burned.

                                                        the problem is that people see "A" ratings, and know from history that they've never had a problem, so they keep their $ in the book. then you have a neteller or BOS situation, and within 1 minute that reliable book or service provider is now a non paying entity.

                                                        only time i've ever been somewhat burned is when i had an account at hollywood sports, i had 3500 in there that i had won from the previous days deposit. i woke up the next morning and found out that my withdrawl that i had requested the previous day was "On hold" because they were just bought out, by you know who. i went nuts and cursed out everyone in the world. it took them 3 days to pay me via neteller and i never went back.
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                                                        • Mason
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 09-23-05
                                                          • 138

                                                          #29
                                                          Heritage is smart. They don't get a lot of press because they don't want a lot of press. They stay right below the radar making just enough money to keep them happy.

                                                          It brings to mind a Dr Evil's quote....."Why make billions, when you can make.....millions". In this business it makes sense.
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                                                          • durito
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-03-06
                                                            • 13173

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by hitbitritz
                                                            just do what i do, deposit and w/d immediately.
                                                            This really isn't possible any more. Even when it was, I deposited at the start of football, withdrew some at the end and the rest after basketball. Only played with the top books and never had a problem.

                                                            Originally posted by hitbitritz
                                                            then you have a neteller or BOS situation, and within 1 minute that reliable book or service provider is now a non paying entity.
                                                            But, BOS was rated a D, so it's no too surprising that they stiffed everyone.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              Heritage is underrated, money very safe there.
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                                                              • pags11
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-18-05
                                                                • 12264

                                                                #32
                                                                can it be football season now please?...
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                                                                • tblues2005
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-30-06
                                                                  • 9235

                                                                  #33
                                                                  LOL Pags that is a way off as we all know.
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                                                                  • gridironguy
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 04-17-07
                                                                    • 575

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Pags, all of us football lovers feel your pain!

                                                                    tblues, once the summer starts, the season gets here pretty fast..
                                                                    3.5 months to go now!
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                                                                    • abacus30
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 03-23-07
                                                                      • 336

                                                                      #35
                                                                      < 10 weeks until the first NFL training camps open!
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