Parlaymakers

[Max009]

If somebody submits a parlay, and the line moves 2-3 points by the time it would be listed, do you guarantee to honour the original lines?

This is also the problem with posting them publicly -- somebody could spot a bargain will be available and lurk the offer, shutting the original bettor out of his lines.

We request parlays and teasers to be listed on Matchbook within a few minutes of your request. From that point on we honour the line you requested. If the line changes in the next hour then that just works in your favor. Realistically, to do otherwise with our system would create chaos.

If we reject a parlay or teaser for some reason we will do that before it is listed on Matchbook. Thanks for the question.

[Max009]

I don't use Matchbook but from what i understand, As soon as an event is over Matchbook grades the wager buy paying the winning side. If you win your parlay bet why do Matchbook need to recive a email from ParlayMakers before grading your wager?

In the Xbet area of Matchbook, the person who requests the event created is responsible for grading. So when the event is over parlaymakers sends an email to Matchbook with the outcome.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

BUMP

So has anyone been using ParlayMakers, and has the bet grading gone well?

[Bluehorseshoe]

I was looking at this today and decided it's not worth it. Pleaser odds bite and you can grab 10-28 on two team parlays at some places without the hassle.

[Max009]

I was looking at this today and decided it's not worth it. Pleaser odds bite and you can grab 10-28 on two team parlays at some places without the hassle.

Come on now, Parlaymakers has the best parlay payouts available guaranteed and has a great no juice promotion going this weekend.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Come on now, Parlaymakers has the best parlay payouts available guaranteed and has a great no juice promotion going this weekend.

No chance. Not when you have to jump through hoops to get the parlay in.

[jayroy25]

i need 2 hit a parlay

[heathcliffm]

No chance. Not when you have to jump through hoops to get the parlay in.

thats been my problem...getting it listed on matchbook after i put it in

[Santo]

Same with me, I'm guessing the lines are automated and they're running with few staff, meaning it often takes longer than advertised to get them processed (especially a problem if games start within 20mins or so)

[Doug]

I've done a couple of test bets, seems to work OK, but I'd rather MB grade these.

[Max009]

Same with me, I'm guessing the lines are automated and they're running with few staff, meaning it often takes longer than advertised to get them processed (especially a problem if games start within 20mins or so)

The issue right now is really getting Matchbook to list the events. We are working with them on this to speed up that process. Generally speaking we request events to be created within a few minutes of them being submitted. After that we have to wait for Matchbook. It was frustrating for some of you this weekend and for us as well. I am confident we will see improvements in times this week. Thank you for your patience.

We will be offering our Thanksgiving special all week, NBA 2 team parlays (spreads and totals) at +300 and 3 team NBA parlays at +700 all week (max bet $100). That is even money on NBA, best NBA bet on the internet this week. That will be starting now through Sunday Nov 29th.

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Max009]

thats been my problem...getting it listed on matchbook after i put it in

We realize that is very frustrating and we hopefully will see that improve this week. Thank you for your patience.

[Bsims]

OK, found site today and gave it a try. So far so good. Good luck guys, hope your site takes off.

[Max009]

OK, found site today and gave it a try. So far so good. Good luck guys, hope your site takes off.

Thanks for giving us a shot. We appreciate your business. Good luck to you.

[bleedblue]

Site is interesting...So we can only submit parlays between 9-5pm?


edit: Okay, it went through. Why does it say that they will only be offered between 9-5pm ET?

[bleedblue]

Okay, I made a bet today and my thoughts so far...

-Too much time between when the parlay is created and when it is posted on matchbook. It was almost an hour for me.

-Takes too long for grading. I imagine my bet won't be graded until tomorrow morning.

-Matchbook not being informed ahead of time of what the bets actually are is pretty sketchy. Makes it too easy for them to stiff.

There are alot of things that they to fix to succeed, so from the looks of things right now I question whether they know what they are doing.

[Max009]

Okay, I made a bet today and my thoughts so far...

-Too much time between when the parlay is created and when it is posted on matchbook. It was almost an hour for me.

-Takes too long for grading. I imagine my bet won't be graded until tomorrow morning.

-Matchbook not being informed ahead of time of what the bets actually are is pretty sketchy. Makes it too easy for them to stiff.

There are alot of things that they to fix to succeed, so from the looks of things right now I question whether they know what they are doing.

Thank you for trying Parlaymakers. Let me acknowledge your feedback:

1. I agree, the time to list the events needs to be shortened. We are working with Matchbook on that.

2. We do only grade bets during normal business hours. Currently, this is 9-5 PM EST Monday through Sunday.

3. Two things guard against you having issues with grading:
1. We list all bets publicly on our site. This makes it easy for everyone to review.
2. Matchbook is not going to allow us to continue listing events on their site if we have problems like you are suggesting.

[bleedblue]

Thank you for trying Parlaymakers. Let me acknowledge your feedback:

1. I agree, the time to list the events needs to be shortened. We are working with Matchbook on that.

2. We do only grade bets during normal business hours. Currently, this is 9-5 PM EST Monday through Sunday.

3. Two things guard against you having issues with grading:
1. We list all bets publicly on our site. This makes it easy for everyone to review.
2. Matchbook is not going to allow us to continue listing events on their site if we have problems like you are suggesting.

But it doesn't look like matchbook would have a say in any disputes, and the fact you won't be able to continue business if you stiff players doesn't guarantee payment to the players. If matchbook had the details of every bet beforehand, then it would be alot harder for you to pull any shenanigans. Maybe it's a responsibility that matchbook doesn't want, but if you could make that one change, then you might have a chance at succeeding.

[Doug]

It is nice to get these graded fast, so you can get back to using your money, which is fundamental to MB.

Tying it up until the next day is not good.

Is the promo NBA only ?

site says all sports

NFL
CBB
CFB

do they qualify ?

[Max009]

But it doesn't look like matchbook would have a say in any disputes, and the fact you won't be able to continue business if you stiff players doesn't guarantee payment to the players. If matchbook had the details of every bet beforehand, then it would be alot harder for you to pull any shenanigans. Maybe it's a responsibility that matchbook doesn't want, but if you could make that one change, then you might have a chance at succeeding.

Ultimately, it is the Matchbook Exchange so they have a say in disputes. Also, Matchbook has the most important part, the money, ours and yours, so any foolish attempt by us to stiff players in some way would not get very far.

We do list all the bets publicly before, during and after the bet, so not only does Matchbook have the info, everyone has the info.

Thank you for the feedback.

[Max009]

It is nice to get these graded fast, so you can get back to using your money, which is fundamental to MB.

Tying it up until the next day is not good.

Is the promo NBA only ?

site says all sports

NFL
CBB
CFB

do they qualify ?

I agree about grading. Let's end that now. We will grade all bets that terminate before 1 AM EST. Anything that ends after that time will be graded the next day. That should resolve about 99% of grading issues.

The promotion is for NBA only. The generic text we had about all sports will be removed. We did have an all sports promotion over the weekend.

[Doug]

will you grade quickly, like a 7pm game ending around 10pm. Does that graded at 10:15 pm or 1am ?

My parlays aren't showing up at MB ( been about an hour). There are some for 11/26, but not my numbers.

[Doug]

will you grade quickly, like a 7pm game ending around 10pm. Does that graded at 10:15 pm or 1am ?

My parlays aren't showing up at MB ( been about an hour). There are some for 11/26, but not my numbers.

[trixtrix]

quick q, x-bets on match are subject to same matchbook vig no? so true payout odds are less than what is listed on parlaymakers site post vig..

[Doug]

quick q, x-bets on match are subject to same matchbook vig no? so true payout odds are less than what is listed on parlaymakers site post vig..

Pretty damn minor on a parlay.

I had one for $20, paid $60. 20 cents fee, so $59.80 return. That would pay $52 at most books.

On one of my first test bets, I got the commission credit.

I'm just experimenting with this for small money, for now.

[Max009]

will you grade quickly, like a 7pm game ending around 10pm. Does that graded at 10:15 pm or 1am ?

My parlays aren't showing up at MB ( been about an hour). There are some for 11/26, but not my numbers.

We will grade shortly after the event is finished. So in your example around 10:15 PM. All parlays are listed and you have probably matched it already.

[Doug]

yeah, I got my further test parlays matched, but they take awhile to show up, that will turn off a lot of players, IMO.

I tend to have tons of offers out, so every MB dollar matters greatly to me. If you can grade within 15 minutes of the game ending, that will be a big +, Hawaii games ( and the like) excepted is fine.

[trixtrix]

1% vig is not minor, any sharp player will agree

[Bsims]

Checked out 4 NHL parlays I was going to make today, 3 had better returns than the best of the other 3 books I normally use. On $100 wagers, the increased returns were $7.50, $4.22, and $14.52. Two of the 3 involved dogs, so assume I would hit at a 20% rate. Then my expected return would be +$5.24 minus the $3.00 commission or a net of +$2.24.

The question is the increased payout worth the time and hassle? Not sure what I'll do in the future (clearly the 3rd wager would be worth it). As trixtrix points out, even small percentages are significant in the long term.

On other issues raised, faster payouts would be welcomed. As far as trust in their grading, I'm going to assume the best . It would only take one or two problems and they are out of business.

[bleedblue]

Good Luck getting clients with service like this. I wait 1.5 hours for my bet to get posted and someone else accepts it almost instantly.

Email #1, 1:56 PM

Your wager at Parlaymakers.com with order number *********** has been submitted and is pending approval. Your wager will be listed on www.MatchBook.com under X-Bets within the next 15-20 minutes.

Email #2, 3:30 PM
Your wager at Parlaymakers.com with order number ********** has been listed on MatchBook.com. You will have 1 hour to log into your MatchBook.com account to match the bet.

Email #3, 3:31 PM

Your wager at Parlaymakers.com with order number *********** has been successfully matched on MatchBook.com.

[Max009]

Good Luck getting clients with service like this. I wait 1.5 hours for my bet to get posted and someone else accepts it almost instantly.

Email #1, 1:56 PM

Your wager at Parlaymakers.com with order number *********** has been submitted and is pending approval. Your wager will be listed on www.MatchBook.com under X-Bets within the next 15-20 minutes.

Email #2, 3:30 PM
Your wager at Parlaymakers.com with order number ********** has been listed on MatchBook.com. You will have 1 hour to log into your MatchBook.com account to match the bet.

Email #3, 3:31 PM

Your wager at Parlaymakers.com with order number *********** has been successfully matched on MatchBook.com.

Sorry to hear you had that problem. We are implementing a fix for that problem right now. Currently, we display the event number and the wager when the wager is pending, listed, and matched. We are changing that so only the event number will be shown when the event is pending or listed. This way only the person who placed the original wager request will know what the bet is referring too, remember you can print this out when you place the wager, that should discourage anyone else from matching a bet since they will not know what it refers too. Once the bet is matched the event and actual wager will be displayed like it is now.

[bleedblue]

I like the changes you have made thusfar.

Now...How come my parlay offers were +224 and +222? The rules are "All 2 team parlays at +300 and all 3 team parlays at +700, for all sports except hockey, spreads only. Those are the best odds possible on the internet. Max bet is $100 per parlay." If there are other rules for the promotion, they need to be listed. Both bets were on spreads, and it wasn't hockey...

[Bsims]

I've used this site off and on for a couple of weeks. I do find parlays with better returns than the other books. The process is still slow and cumbersome. I can't really comment on the speed of grading, since I've lost all the parlays I've made so it didn't matter. But hopefully one of these days I'll win one.