Rebate Wager? Any thoughts? Suggestions?

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  • pokernut9999
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-25-07
    • 12757

    #71
    Originally posted by Sam Odom
    Nope Having a great past 6 weeks

    Just stating a fact about rw , you cannot say it isnt true. So they have square rules?

    The rule is to prevent players from abusing the rebates , does not take a genuis to figure it out.

    Has nothing to do with being a sharp or square , deposit more and your percentage goes up and then bet more.

    You go and bash them because you do not read the rules and can not comprehend them.
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #72
      9999 , look at your sig line , and you dont have an agenda?

      I just call it the way I see it , doesnt make me right or sharp. RW is an OK book but not a book for serious gamblers IMO
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      • pokernut9999
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-25-07
        • 12757

        #73
        You my friend are not a serious gambler .


        Yes I have an agenda , when I win I like to get paid with no hassles and free payouts and if I lose I like to take a shot with my rebate than redepositing.

        You my friend can complain about how costly payouts are and the hassles of redepositing.
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        • Sam Odom
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-30-05
          • 58063

          #74
          Originally posted by pokernut9999

          You my friend are not a serious gambler

          I take my gambling seriously tho
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          • lyon804
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-02-09
            • 6526

            #75
            Guys, I since some heated discussions here. We all gamble hard rather we are sharps are not. I am working on a few things that if they work out I will share to you guys. If I am awake I am thinking about how to make money
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            • BLACKIE
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-25-09
              • 430

              #76
              Originally posted by Mudcat
              I tried them but didn't see a lot of point to them. Lines are not competetive. High juice and not opinionated on the stuff I bet. Low limits.

              I tried them for awhile and decided to cash out - and am now being slow-payed. They are blaming Moneybookers. It's not a big deal and they have offered another (much more costly) withdrawal method so I am just waiting for the time being.
              mudcat,

              we are blaming moneybookers because it is an issue with moneybookers. it is a fairly new banking option for us and after using the service for a month they abruptly froze our account and requested additional documentation. we have offered moneygram as a payout option for all those players effected and have offered to send those players all corespondense between us and moneybookers. if they won't let us access and send our deposited funds there is nothing we can do and it is absulty there fualt and the blame is justified.
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              • BigDaddy
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-01-06
                • 8378

                #77
                Originally posted by BLACKIE
                mudcat,

                we are blaming moneybookers because it is an issue with moneybookers. it is a fairly new banking option for us and after using the service for a month they abruptly froze our account and requested additional documentation. we have offered moneygram as a payout option for all those players effected and have offered to send those players all corespondense between us and moneybookers. if they won't let us access and send our deposited funds there is nothing we can do and it is absulty there fualt and the blame is justified.

                then cover the payout fees for the **'s.
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                • RickySteve
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-31-06
                  • 3415

                  #78
                  Not recommended. Significant criminal liability in the US puts all funds in danger. Will take shots at players.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #79
                    Mudcat is a nickle and dimer and always tries to find ways to hustle a book, he looks for the bonuses, scalps, easy money, ect. If he does not get his way he cries foul. Rebatewager is perfect for approx 90% of posters and suits the players needs just fine.
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                    • MonkeyF0cker
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-12-07
                      • 12144

                      #80
                      Thanks for your unbiased opinion, shill.
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                      • MonkeyF0cker
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-12-07
                        • 12144

                        #81
                        I would trust Mudcat and RickySteve's experience and knowledge far before a shill for the site like jjgold...
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                        • MonkeyF0cker
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-12-07
                          • 12144

                          #82
                          Originally posted by BigDaddy
                          then cover the payout fees for the **'s.
                          Bingo! Problem solved. No more excuses, blackie.
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                          • lyon804
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-02-09
                            • 6526

                            #83
                            Originally posted by RickySteve
                            Not recommended. Significant criminal liability in the US puts all funds in danger. Will take shots at players.
                            Interesting. Thanks for HUp
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #84
                              Monkey be careful here, you need to watch what you say. The players that play or played there like it. Monkey what is your address??
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                              • BLACKIE
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 09-25-09
                                • 430

                                #85
                                Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                Bingo! Problem solved. No more excuses, blackie.

                                not to put words in mudcats mounth but when he stated we offered an alternative payout at a much higher fee it was moneygram and we were willing to cover the costs like we due in 90% of our deposit and withdrawal options.

                                this all being said moneybokers finally cleared our account and all players that choose not to recive a moneygram payout were payed through moneybookers today.

                                a slowpay is when someone makes excuse not to pay a player or trys to stalll a player payout because they don't have the funds. we explained the circumstances to mudcat, offered to send the correspondence from moneybookers and gave him an alternative payout option. in my many years in this business i have never slow payed a player and i don't plan on starting now.
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                                • BigDaddy
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-01-06
                                  • 8378

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                  not to put words in mudcats mounth but when he stated we offered an alternative payout at a much higher fee it was moneygram and we were willing to cover the costs like we due in 90% of our deposit and withdrawal options.

                                  this all being said moneybokers finally cleared our account and all players that choose not to recive a moneygram payout were payed through moneybookers today.

                                  a slowpay is when someone makes excuse not to pay a player or trys to stalll a player payout because they don't have the funds. we explained the circumstances to mudcat, offered to send the correspondence from moneybookers and gave him an alternative payout option. in my many years in this business i have never slow payed a player and i don't plan on starting now.



                                  good to hear
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #87
                                    These fukkin poster should be fukkin shot when they lie like Mudcat just did. I love when frauds like home are exposed.
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                                    • MonkeyF0cker
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-12-07
                                      • 12144

                                      #88
                                      So you're telling us that Mudcat refused a withdrawal via Moneygram when you stated that you would have covered the costs? Why does that make zero sense?

                                      Are you and jj related? Neither of you can spell for shit...
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #89
                                        Monkey I am much more experienced than you and most here when it comes to offshore books, you might know Vegasbetter than me but offshore books and line services i will blow anyone away.
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                                        • MonkeyF0cker
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-12-07
                                          • 12144

                                          #90
                                          I'm not here to wag my dick, jj. Stay on topic.
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                                          • pokernut9999
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-25-07
                                            • 12757

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by RickySteve
                                            Not recommended. Significant criminal liability in the US puts all funds in danger. Will take shots at players.

                                            Name one time they took a shot at a player , and every book has liability in the US.

                                            And have you ever played there before ?
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                                            • Chopsticks
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-30-09
                                              • 1057

                                              #92
                                              Good to hear that the Moneybookers situation has been resolved!

                                              I played with Rebatewager a while ago and they paid me $1500-ish within 45 minutes or so to moneybookers. Both the deposit and withdrawal was of course free of charge ($1-ish fee for moneybookers deposit, this was reimbursed). When I have talked to their cs they were fast and to the point.

                                              Odds are good compared to other books (not counting pinnies and matchie of course), and juice is slightly lower than some other books at around odds of ~+182 if I remember correctly (15c vs 18c at pinnacle/jam?). Their limits can be a pain for some, but it should be enough for most players. Of course you can ask them to review your account after 30 days and request them to up your limits. I have not done this myself so can't say how they go about it. One could assume that they look at what you are betting on and when you are betting on it. Do you bet steam, do you bet on other peoples picks and such.

                                              I still have a balance there and don't see any reason not to continue betting with them.

                                              I did read on the frontpage of sbr that they voided a teaser just recently, but from what I can understand the case was resolved.
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                                              • Mudcat
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 07-21-05
                                                • 9287

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                not to put words in mudcats mounth but when he stated we offered an alternative payout at a much higher fee it was moneygram and we were willing to cover the costs like we due in 90% of our deposit and withdrawal options.

                                                this all being said moneybokers finally cleared our account and all players that choose not to recive a moneygram payout were payed through moneybookers today.

                                                a slowpay is when someone makes excuse not to pay a player or trys to stalll a player payout because they don't have the funds. we explained the circumstances to mudcat, offered to send the correspondence from moneybookers and gave him an alternative payout option. in my many years in this business i have never slow payed a player and i don't plan on starting now.



                                                Yep I got my payout today.

                                                You're kind of being defensive like I was making a big deal out of it. I think I said specifically I don't consider it a big deal. I wasn't looking for proof of anything. I was waiting patiently. I wouldn't even have mentioned it if I hadn't seen this thread.

                                                If you have a semantical objection to my use of the term "slow-pay" I am not inclined to argue very hard. Perhaps the shillish nature of some ongoing forum activity related to RebateWager created a backlash and made me less-than-generous with my wording. In any case, it took me about 10 days to get my funds. Call it whatever.

                                                As I said to someone I spoke to on the phone, there are issues with Moneygram. There are fees and also big currency conversion issues where money gets skimmed off the top. No one made it clear to me that RW covers that.

                                                It wouldn't have been a big deal either way. A few ** fees wouldn't have killed me. But I waited and it worked out fine.

                                                My experience with RebateWager was: the service was good. The lines don't quite get it done for me. But it seems like an okay book for the non-discriminating majority.
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                                                • poker_dummy101
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-03-08
                                                  • 6395

                                                  #94
                                                  Gold, you are losing credibility here. You can't back someone like fishhead and then expect us to believe you now.
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                                                  • pokernut9999
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-25-07
                                                    • 12757

                                                    #95
                                                    Why is it when someone asks about a sportsbook and someone that plays there responds it is shilling ?

                                                    What better way for someone to get answers then have the same posters that bash every book come into the thread and give info , when most have never played there ?
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                                                    • poker_dummy101
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 11-03-08
                                                      • 6395

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                      Why is it when someone asks about a sportsbook and someone that plays there responds it is shilling ?

                                                      What better way for someone to get answers then have the same posters that bash every book come into the thread and give info , when most have never played there ?
                                                      So let me get this straight.. you dont think JJ shills for rebate wager?

                                                      Have you watched ANY of his videos at all??
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                                                      • lyon804
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-02-09
                                                        • 6526

                                                        #97
                                                        Guys, I started all of this debacle here and I appreciate everyone's comments. Since I am a noob will someone explain what it means to SHILL OR SHILLING. Thanks! Oh, by the way I haven't recieved funds yet to deposit to anybody just yet. Still gambling with the local guy.
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                                                        • pokernut9999
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-25-07
                                                          • 12757

                                                          #98
                                                          He says he plays there so I would believe him over people that admit they never have.
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                                                          • poker_dummy101
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 11-03-08
                                                            • 6395

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by lyon804
                                                            explain what it means to SHILL OR SHILLING.
                                                            ....
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                                                            • pokernut9999
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-25-07
                                                              • 12757

                                                              #100
                                                              A shill is someone that is paid to represent them.
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                                                              • poker_dummy101
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 11-03-08
                                                                • 6395

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                                He says he plays there so I would believe him over people that admit they never have.
                                                                well i would hope he plays there seeing as how he gets paid to promote the site.
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                                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                                  • 12144

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                                  He says he plays there so I would believe him over people that admit they never have.
                                                                  I think it's pretty obvious that the person whose character was attacked (Mudcat), plays there. It's also pretty obvious that jj is a shill for Rebatewager.
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                                                                  • lyon804
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-02-09
                                                                    • 6526

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Thanks for telling me what a schill is. I wonder how much they pay him anyways to talk up the book.
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                                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                                      • 12757

                                                                      #104
                                                                      There have been many complaints of MoneyBooker payouts from all offshore books.

                                                                      If someone offers to send ** free of charge then why accuse them of slowpay ?

                                                                      Now whose character was attacked ?
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                                                                      • pokernut9999
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 07-25-07
                                                                        • 12757

                                                                        #105
                                                                        JJ is quite a character and puts on a good act here , some like his humor and some do not.

                                                                        But I can guarentee you JJ knows more about the offshore industry than anyone here on this forum.
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