BCS SAGARIN has Iowa #1

[Fishhead]

Iowa is another product of the Sorry azz Big Ten. The Big Ten = GLORIFIED HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL.

Iowa easily handled the 2nd place team in the PAC TEN a few weeks ago.........and destoyed an SEC team in their bowl game last season.

[jackpot269]

If Iowa was in SEC it would have been a .500 team and would never crack the Top 25.

Maybe a .600

[Fishhead]

Maybe a .600

After ALA and FLORIDA, the SEC is down this year.

The slides of TENN and GEORGIA have hurt.

This has the potential to be the worst GEORGIA team in recent memory.

[HoulihansTX]

Iowa easily handled the 2nd place team in the PAC TEN a few weeks ago.........and destoyed an SEC team in their bowl game last season.

Ari "Freaking Zona. Thats the the Big Tens version of playing a powerhouse PAC 10 team. Wow!

Iowa is going to lose B4 season's end anyways. Saving the public from another Big Ten choke job in the Natl Championship. Why would anyone defend this team. When you can only play a good qtr of football more than likely your getting lucky, and that doesnt last.

Boise St. and TCU or BUST. They both blow-out Iowa.

[HoulihansTX]

Tenn is getting better as the season goes. They are taking on the personality of their coaches, and expecting to win.

Fulmer left a lot of talent on that roster. Fulmer just lost his elite coaching staff overtime(Cutcliffe et. al.), and he was exposed as a figurehead coach.

[Fishhead]

I don't believe Iowa wins at the Horseshoe.

However, if PSU defeats OSU this weekend, Iowa will have to lose two of their remaining three games to lose the Big Ten title.

Been a terriffic year for the Hawkeyes.

[HoulihansTX]

I don't believe Iowa wins at the Horseshoe. However, if PSU defeats OSU this weekend, Iowa will have to lose two of their remaining three games to lose the Big Ten title. Been a terriffic year for the Hawkeyes.

I do as well commend Iowa on a storybook season.

Its just the fact that they will be thrown to the wolves, if they make it to the BCS Champs.

[goblue12]

Looks like ABC did a good job picking Arizona - USC as their 4:30 game on the final week of the year. Sick of seeing a .500 or below UCLA club get waxed every year. This might be a good game.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Iowa = FRAUD = Soon to be exposed

[HoulihansTX]

Iowa = FRAUD = Soon to be exposed

I concur.

[element1286]

I don't believe Iowa wins at the Horseshoe.

However, if PSU defeats OSU this weekend, Iowa will have to lose two of their remaining three games to lose the Big Ten title.

Been a terriffic year for the Hawkeyes.

I'm pretty sure that if PSU and Iowa are tied at one loss, they tie for the conference championship no matter the record against one another.

[Fishhead]

I'm pretty sure that if PSU and Iowa are tied at one loss, they tie for the conference championship no matter the record against one another.

iowa wins

[element1286]

And Sagarian's PREDICTOR, which is a better predictor or future outcome, has Iowa 15th. Most computer rankings that use more than just win/loss and opponent win/loss have Iowa in the 7-10 range.

[element1286]

iowa wins

They actually wouldn't, they would be co-champions.

Last year Penn St. finished 7-1 in conference play. Ohio St. finished 7-1 in conference play. Penn St. beat Ohio St, but they finished as co-champions of the conference.

Although I think Iowa would get the Rose Bowl, because it goes team that has gone the longest without an appearance.

[Fishhead]

They actually wouldn't, they would be co-champions.

Last year Penn St. finished 7-1 in conference play. Ohio St. finished 7-1 in conference play. Penn St. beat Ohio St, but they finished as co-champions of the conference.

Although I think Iowa would get the Rose Bowl, because it goes team that has gone the longest without an appearance.

[yisman]

IOWA is not nearly as good as TEXAS or FLORIDA.

[Fishhead]

stupid thread.

And everyone knows Iowa is not the best team in the country, except for a few Iowa homers.

[HoulihansTX]

Fishhead you need some fellow Mid-West loyalist to chirp in on the Big-Tens behalf. Looks like you against the forum.

I have a couple of friends from Iowa, and they want to fight me every Saturday. I talk so much shit about the Big Ten. The reason the really hate it is , b/c they have no rebuttal.

[yisman]

[element1286]

Fishhead you need some fellow Mid-West loyalist to chirp in on the Big-Tens behalf. Looks like you against the forum.

I have a couple of friends from Iowa, and they want to fight me every Saturday. I talk so much shit about the Big Ten. The reason the really hate it is , b/c they have no rebuttal.

The Big Ten has become so overrated that it is now probably underrated. There really isn't much difference between the Big East, Big Ten, ACC, and Big 12 this year, all being pretty mediocre. Pac-10 have separated themselves some, and the SEC is still on top.

[HoldEmHook!!]

Untill the weak ten gets a conference championship the respect is not deserved..... this year the sec championship game will be a semi final playoff game as in years past.... iowa is good but not superior...

[StarPicks]

Can't believe Texas jumped to 2nd. They are not that good and would not want to watch a National Championship game with that shitty team.

[HoulihansTX]

The Big Ten has become so overrated that it is now probably underrated. There really isn't much difference between the Big East, Big Ten, ACC, and Big 12 this year, all being pretty mediocre. Pac-10 have separated themselves some, and the SEC is still on top.

If Sam Bradford doesn't get INJ Big 12 has two Natl Championship contenders, the Big Ten still has nothing but pretenders.

PAC-10 has stepped up this season, and usurped the BIG-12 as the 2nd best conference.

The Shit Ten needs to play some mid majors in the Bowls so they can compete. Look how they schedule the weakest opponents in the middle of the season. New Mexico St.??? That's a warm up game, not a team you play on the middle of the season when you should be rolling.

Norte Dame schedules Washington St. last week, and for some reason they have to go to San Antonio, TX?? What garbage. Norte Dame tried to act like it was some big time matchup, but even Joe Blow knows Washington St. may be the worst team on the west coast. Norte Dame knows they suck, and they will lose to Navy this week. Yep I called it. Heard it hear first. *(pounding my chest)*

[Tbonehawk]

You laugh about the easy win over Arizona, but pump up the Pac10 has a great conference? Huh? Purdue loses 38-36 at Oregon. Purdue is a middle of the road Big 10 team at best this year, just got beat by Wisconsin, 38-0. Tennessee is horrible too, even UCLA beat them. I don't think Iowa is the best team in the world, but your argument is weak. Suppose Iowa will have to beat another SEC team like they do every year in a bowl.

[Fishhead]

You laugh about the easy win over Arizona, but pump up the Pac10 has a great conference? Huh? Purdue loses 38-36 at Oregon. Purdue is a middle of the road Big 10 team at best this year, just got beat by Wisconsin, 38-0. Tennessee is horrible too, even UCLA beat them. I don't think Iowa is the best team in the world, but your argument is weak. Suppose Iowa will have to beat another SEC team like they do every year in a bowl.

[Flight]

I think ELO_CHESS is bad for ranking teams, and that is what is used for BCS.... the Sagarin pure points model is much more reasonable for a true team rank.

For predictions, a yards per play model seems more accurate.

Iowa is actually #2 in the Sagarin ELO_CHESS, next to Florida.

Oregon beats Iowa in a Rose Bowl matchup though.

[Fishhead]

I think ELO_CHESS is bad for ranking teams, and that is what is used for BCS.... the Sagarin pure points model is much more reasonable for a true team rank.

For predictions, a yards per play model seems more accurate.

Iowa is actually #2 in the Sagarin ELO_CHESS, next to Florida.

Oregon beats Iowa in a Rose Bowl matchup though.

Iowa has defeated three top 25 BCS teams(two on the road).............

TCU zilch

[StarPicks]

Well I guess the in 2 weeks we will see what Iowa is about. Ohio St is nothing to brag about this year, so if they lose then, it was just another team.

[yisman]

What a joke...

[WileOut]

You laugh about the easy win over Arizona, but pump up the Pac10 has a great conference? Huh? Purdue loses 38-36 at Oregon. Purdue is a middle of the road Big 10 team at best this year, just got beat by Wisconsin, 38-0. Tennessee is horrible too, even UCLA beat them. I don't think Iowa is the best team in the world, but your argument is weak. Suppose Iowa will have to beat another SEC team like they do every year in a bowl.

Tennessee is a completely, 180 degree different team than they were to start the season.

You can't say one team from a conference beat another, etc. Every team has down days. You take the whole body of work by every team to evaluate the strength of a conference.

No matter how you slice it, the SEC is the best conference in the nation.

[pavyracer]

Breaking News!!

Sagarin has Iowa not in a BCS bowl game!

You heard is here first!

[yisman]

Tennessee is a completely, 180 degree different team than they were to start the season.

You can't say one team from a conference beat another, etc. Every team has down days. You take the whole body of work by every team to evaluate the strength of a conference.

No matter how you slice it, the SEC is the best conference in the nation.

It's a rare season indeed when the SEC isn't the best conference.

They have been pretty much every season in recent memory.

This season, the gap is huge. No other conference is close.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Hey Iowa??? You are what we thought you are? Overated fuks. Go to the back of the line and quit being pretenders. Good luck in the tidy bowl because we're sure you'll flush that game away as well. FRAUDS...