Worst value in the sbr store by far

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

The bet phoenix $50 cash for 450 points with a 8x rollover.
They offer a bet phoenix free play for $50 at 165 points with a 8x rollover.
The difference between the two here is 1 bet. So you can buy 2 free plays with bet phoenix for 300 points( the $100 dollar offer), then fade yourself. And you'd be in the same shoes as the cash offer for 150 points less.

[ryanspeer2001]

Alright well send me the points for it and we will bet the opposite side of a game and split profits.

[teaserpleaser]

im trying to cancel my free play sam if you see this you have a pm

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

theres still a 8x in affect so that would be stupid. Im just saying you can take 2 free plays and fade yourself there and then reach your rollover. bet phoenix wont mind that your fading yourself cause only winnings start the cash portion and youd in affect be loosing money. But its still a better deal than the cash for 450 points

300 points= $100 free play. 2 plays 50/46 and 50/46. 1 wins. you have
$96 cash with a 8x rollover remaining.

or

450 points =$50 cash with a 8x rollover

hmmmmm

[poker_dummy101]

theres still a 8x in affect so that would be stupid. Im just saying you can take 2 free plays and fade yourself there and then reach your rollover. bet phoenix wont mind that your fading yourself cause only winnings start the cash portion and youd in affect be loosing money. But its still a better deal than the cash for 450 points

300 points= $100 free play. 2 plays 50/46 and 50/46. 1 wins. you have
$96 cash with a 8x rollover remaining.

or

450 points =$50 cash with a 8x rollover

hmmmmm

I just explained how to use freeplays. When are people going to learn.

And no you dont keep the bet amt in a freeplay

[reno cool]

Gd observation. I've noticed that the freeplays are much better value in the store than cash.

[reno cool]

you would have $46 not $96 but that's still better value.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

I just explained how to use freeplays. When are people going to learn.

And no you dont keep the bet amt in a freeplay

I wrote that wrong i was sitting her thinking for a minute how it was 96 when i originally calculated it to 46. in either case....

46 for 300
is a lot better than
50 for 450

[poker_dummy101]

I wrote that wrong i was sitting her thinking for a minute how it was 96 when i originally calculated it to 46. in either case....

46 for 300
is a lot better than
50 for 450

Go read my thread on page 2 or 3 in players talk. intro to maximizing freeplays

Edit: Wow its already on page 4.

[topgame85]

Depends on what you are looking to do with it though if you see a +400 dog you love and want to get down on and it hits and you put cash on it thats a lot better value than a FP with restrictions

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Go read my thread on page 2 or 3 in players talk. intro to maximizing freeplays

I read it and was a good write up on 1 book freeplays. But i would rather get cash bonus at 4 books and then fade myself off for 90% back value as in what im doing with the 128 man prize money.

$250 in 4 books. 5 x rollovers( $1250 wagered)

Book1:Bet A(-105) 250/238
Book 2:Bet A(-105) 250/238
Book 3:Bet B(-105) 250/238
Book 4:Bet B(-105) 250/238

Book 1: Bet A (-105)488/464
Book 2: Bet B (-105)488/464

Book 1: Bet A 512(remaining rollover requirement)/487
My book: Bet B 512/487


In any case you cash out 927 of the 1000. 92.7%.

so just purchase cash offers with similar rollovers in 4 different books. Bet it on -105 totals that are offered every weekend

[Jimmy0607]

Very true

[Poker_Beast]

Either way you have to win the bets!

[flyingillini]

I am not used to such a high roll over. I play at a book where I get a 3 time rollover with a very good bonus.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

I am not used to such a high roll over. I play at a book where I get a 3 time rollover with a very good bonus.

Yea but thats the point for sbr and the sponsored books. Gives them advertisement and additional clientele for little or no risk at people actually cashing out.

[Richkas]

8x is nothing. Easily done.

[poker_dummy101]

I dont understand. The cash values have the worst return on investment with the points. So why are you getting them? Since you have multiple books you should do what LT said.

Or, are you talking about using your SBR prize for 128 comp, because you didnt say that at first just how bad the value is in the store with the cash (and i agree)?

[poker_dummy101]

If you are using cash from SBR 128 and want to purchase something, you should still purchase the freeplays and do as LT said imo

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

I dont understand. The cash values have the worst return on investment with the points. So why are you getting them? Since you have multiple books you should do what LT said.

Or, are you talking about using your SBR prize for 128 comp, because you didnt say that at first just how bad the value is in the store with the cash (and i agree)?

yes cash is the worst value but i was just suggesting a way u can also get good value out of cash bonuses. Yes my main point in the beginning of the thread was to state how much better it would be to get 2 100 dollar free plays and get 46 vs 50 dollars for 150 points less. My point originally wasn't to state how to maximize it. Just how to get a better value.


300 points= $100 free play. 2 plays 50/46 and 50/46. 1 wins. you have
$46 cash with a 8x rollover remaining.

or

450 points =$50 cash with a 8x rollover

hmmmmm

[poker_dummy101]

Oh ok, congrats again on the comp gl with your bets

[reno cool]

Depends on what you are looking to do with it though if you see a +400 dog you love and want to get down on and it hits and you put cash on it thats a lot better value than a FP with restrictions

longshots are in fact the best way to use your freeplay.

since your original bet amount is lost in the freeplay you want bets that win less often but pay more. If you play big favs your freeplays would conversely have less value.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

longshots are in fact the best way to use your freeplay.

since your original bet amount is lost in the freeplay you want bets that win less often but pay more. If you play big favs your freeplays would conversely have less value.

Completely agree.

[pimike]

8x is nothing. Easily done.

Especially if you bet everyday several times a day,

[topgame85]

longshots are in fact the best way to use your freeplay.

since your original bet amount is lost in the freeplay you want bets that win less often but pay more. If you play big favs your freeplays would conversely have less value.

indeed but +200/-200 max on fp ml with phoenix so I was saying if you want a real long shot like +400 or so cash is the way to go

[sportscash]

[fixxer]

8x is not that big rollover.....still, the cash bonus is a little overpriced (or the free play underpriced)

[tblues2005]

I agree the cash bonus is way overpriced. I would rather deal with the 300 points for $100 free play. Maybe they will adjust that in the future.

[tripp]

good thread