Saints -6 over Miami

jayc88 · 10-19-09, 08:23 AM

hard to go against the saints now

lakerboy · 10-19-09, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by jayc88

hard to go against the saints now

true but letdowns are big in the nfl. brees will pass big time but miami will run big time. should be good game.

firedawg · 10-19-09, 08:25 AM

line will go up................ if you like the fins wait.... public will bet the saints after they beat NY

G's pks · 10-19-09, 08:50 AM

saints win

lakerboy · 10-19-09, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by G's pks

saints win

sure but i dont play moneylines. im looking at the spread so if they win it doesnt matter to me. laying 6 or more points on the road in the nfl isnt a smart play. just ask the eagles.

themajormt · 10-19-09, 09:51 AM

I really like the Saints in this LB... That defense will mess up Henne...

Poulsbo · 10-19-09, 10:05 AM

The Saints are last years Titans!

JGILL50 · 10-19-09, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by themajormt

I really like the Saints in this LB... That defense will mess up Henne...

like the jets did?????

G's pks · 10-19-09, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

sure but i dont play moneylines. im looking at the spread so if they win it doesnt matter to me. laying 6 or more points on the road in the nfl isnt a smart play. just ask the eagles.

I am not going to play Saints game unless the stats i see tell me too...but really not my type of game...

As far as the Eagles I did not play them... only played Atlanta/won and a 3 team teaser which lost because of Sanchez/jets... I survived the weekend ok...

LT Profits · 10-19-09, 10:21 AM

Yeah this could happen. Saints in a letdown spot in a relatively meaningless interconference game following a big statement win, the Dolphins are a nice sized home underdog off of a bye. Interesting.

G's pks · 10-19-09, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Yeah this could happen. Saints in a letdown spot in a relatively meaningless interconference game following a big statement win, the Dolphins are a nice sized home underdog off of a bye. Interesting.

Just a little off here..like the titans against the Pats...

How is this game meaningless?

Atlanta is one game back... breathing down their neck and there is another team in the conference undefeated with a better record...

ZBOIZ · 10-19-09, 10:36 AM

I won't play this game, unless the total drop. I just feel funny about this game as a fan. I have to hear hoe Payton is talking about the dolphins, I also have to see how these players are talking thus week. But -6 is risky to me.

stevek173 · 10-19-09, 10:41 AM

Let's not forget that the Dolphin's secondary is horrendous. Didn't they give up 200+ to Dallas Clark? I am a Dolphins fan, but I smell a Saints blowout here.

tripp · 10-19-09, 10:44 AM

Love the phins here. Tough team at home. Remember they dominated Peyton and the colts at home, and IMO Indy is better than New Orleans and Peyton is sure as hell tougher to stop than Brees.

Wildcat is tough to plan for, especially with Pat White getting some reps now and Henne looking good at QB. Dolphins also have a not great but solid defense.

Getting near a TD at home is way too much IMO. Line should be 3 tops.

ZBOIZ · 10-19-09, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

I won't play this game, unless the total drop. I just feel funny about this game as a fan. I have to hear hoe Payton is talking about the dolphins, I also have to see how these players are talking thus week. But -6 is risky to me.

I meant unless the spread drop

ZBOIZ · 10-19-09, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by tripp

Love the phins here. Tough team at home. Remember they dominated Peyton and the colts at home, and IMO Indy is better than New Orleans and Peyton is sure as hell tougher to stop than Brees.

Wildcat is tough to plan for, especially with Pat White getting some reps now and Henne looking good at QB. Dolphins also have a not great but solid defense.

Getting near a TD at home is way too much IMO. Line should be 3 tops.

I don't think Indy is better than New Orleans.

G's pks · 10-19-09, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

I don't think Indy is better than New Orleans.

Agree 100%

Robert Schroeder · 10-19-09, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

I don't think Indy is better than New Orleans.

DISAGREE TO YOUR AGREE

Peyton better than Brees
Dallas better than Shockey
Wayne better than Colston
DE's better than saints
D in general better than siants
2 headed monster RBS against Thomas and a decoy
????????????????
Once Bob is back Colts D strenghten by two

AND I A BEARS FAN

ZBOIZ · 10-19-09, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Robert Schroeder

DISAGREE TO YOUR AGREE

Peyton better than Brees
Dallas better than Shockey
Wayne better than Colston
DE's better than saints
D in general better than siants
2 headed monster RBS against Thomas and a decoy
????????????????
Once Bob is back Colts D strenghten by two

AND I A BEARS FAN

The Saints offense as a whole is better than the Colts. Anybody can tell you that. I bet the Colts wouldn't have put 48 on the Giants @ there home. The Saints offense is beyond the Colts. Trust me I've seen the Colts all year, and I see a big difference. We have a better wide receiver core which make us tougher to defend.

Threats:
Meachem
Moore
Henderson
Shockey
Colston
Bush
Bell
Thomas

I'm sure I forgot about somebody. 7 different players scored yesterday. And this is nothing new. This offense has put 40 on Philly and the Giants, respectfully 2 of the elite Defenses in the National Football league.

Scorpion · 10-19-09, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Robert Schroeder

DISAGREE TO YOUR AGREE

Peyton better than Brees
Dallas better than Shockey
Wayne better than Colston
DE's better than saints
D in general better than siants
2 headed monster RBS against Thomas and a decoy
????????????????
Once Bob is back Colts D strenghten by two

AND I A BEARS FAN

True
NO has the adv in coaching

Sean Peyton is 3 level above Jim Caldwell

Peyton is a great coach

Miami +7 vs NO

ZBOIZ · 10-19-09, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Scorpion

True
NO has *** adv in coaching

Sean Peyton is 3 level above Jim Caldwell

Peyton is a great coach

The thing what he is missing is a TEAM is not single players. Yea Clark may be better than Shockey, and Wayne may be better than Colston, but as a WR UNIT who is better ? Clearly the Saints! Thats what make the Saints so tough.

As a unit our offense is better than the Colts.

Dark Horse · 10-19-09, 11:39 AM

The Saints and Colts are very similar. Both Brees and Peyton will change or call the play depending on how the defense lines up. That's what makes them so hard to defend.

DwightShrute · 10-19-09, 11:45 AM

Miami can keep it close if they use their wildcat offense effectively and eat up the clock, thus keeping the Saints offense off the field.

Saints look to be on an unstoppable roll right now but Miami could cover.

I am staying away from this one also.

LT Profits · 10-19-09, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by G's pks

Just a little off here..like the titans against the Pats...

How is this game meaningless?

Atlanta is one game back... breathing down their neck and there is another team in the conference undefeated with a better record...

I said "relatively".

Interconference games are the least important games on the schedule in terms of tiebreakers.

ZBOIZ · 10-19-09, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

Miami can keep it close if they use their wildcat offense effectively and eat up the clock, thus keeping the Saints offense off the field.

Saints look to be on an unstoppable roll right now but Miami could cover.

I am staying away from this one also.

This is how the Saints are ripping teams apart from the start.

Even when the Saints win the toss they want the ball first. They want to score first so they can immediately put the pressure on the opposing team. Even if they lose the toss they will get the ball 1st because most teams prefer to defend. I think Miami have to win the toss and want the ball 1st. If they don't than they could be playing behind from the start of the game.

DwightShrute · 10-19-09, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

Even when the Saints win the toss they want the ball first.

But , who doesn't?

LT Profits · 10-19-09, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

But , who doesn't?

Most teams defer to second half since the NFL adopted the college rule.

G's pks · 10-19-09, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

I said "relatively".

Interconference games are the least important games on the schedule in terms of tiebreakers.

a one game lead on Atlanta..

one less win than the Vikings...

Home field advantage...division winner or wildcard.... I would say it is damn important....

The Saints are by far the best team in football right now! Lets all face reality here...

alukk · 10-19-09, 12:41 PM

ive played all the saints games this season and obbvously won em ats! this time they wont cover. miami plus the points

ZBOIZ · 10-19-09, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

But , who doesn't?

most teams defer to the 2nd half, which means they want to play defense first and get the ball back after half

DwightShrute · 10-19-09, 12:47 PM

Ya I understand the concept. I would always take the ball first. Stupid to win the coin toss and kick the ball to the other team.

ZBOIZ · 10-19-09, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

Ya I understand the concept. I would always take the ball first. Stupid to win the coin toss and kick the ball to the other team.

I think like you

DwightShrute · 10-19-09, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

I think like you

scary

lakerboy · 10-19-09, 01:16 PM

good thread topic keep it going guys.