My largest wager today...

[Nicky Santoro]

And, this, boys and girls, is a classic example why advantage gamblers don't post plays...

Because of idiots like Nicky.

now you're really making me laugh.. this coming from a guy that hammered fishhead forever for posting Mich +8 when line was +9.5? lol.. and you kept hammering him telling him it was a -ev play and the wrong side, and he won, too..

and you are saying i am ruining it for you???

stop it monkey, now you are really making me laugh.

each play i have posted here at sbr that won, and line moved my way, too.. you also came in and hammered me.. i post real line predictions that were bang on, and you always come in to correct me.. (and youre always wrong too) so stop with the bullshit..

[Bread]

Monkeys everywhere! I love this thread!

Genny you wily old loon, do you have any idea what you're talking about! Let's go drinks some BEER!!

[dwaechte]

i invented shopping, what you talking about.. but posting you have +14 and telling people to go out and bet it when line is flashing +12.5 everywhere is not justifiable.. and you know this..

YOU ONLY POSTED THIS GAME AND LINE CAUSE YOU SAW LINE WAS TUMBLING DOWN, AND FAST...

Had you posted this play 24 hrs ago, i would not be here.. i'd be congratulating you.. but then again, you would never do this..

you know i am right here and i know you agree with me..if i did same as you here, you'd be hammering me now..i know it..

there is no diff what you did than post Lakers -12.5 when screen is now Lakers -14 cause Kobe is now healthy and you are telling everyone to be lakers -12.5 when line is now -14..

no difference at all.

Dude, stop being a ****ing moron. 14 was still available up until game-tme.

[MrMonkey]

showed me what?? you mean i showed him.. he just gave us his card for the day after all the lines went his way.. he didn't show us his other games..lol

also why is he giving us +14 when the screen is flashing +12.5 everywhere. you think he would have given us this play had the screen flashed +16 everywhere.. hell no..

i really do have 12 bets for tonight..8 of them went my way and lines are nowhere near it now.. but 4 went against me or are still the same.. can i just post those 8 only and say this is my card for tonight.. but i will leave the other 4.

that's what he's doing here..

POST 8, POST 12, POST JUST 1, BUT WTF POST SOMETHING!

ONNER!!!!!!!!!!

[lakerboy]

Your a stand guy my friend! My word means everything and I see so does yours! I'll give you a chance to win it back on Monday if care to? Beware, these Phighting Phils are relentless!

Thanks my friend. Good Luck

[onthewhat]

Nicky when Monkey posts predictions he gets hammered like NBA Finals Series price

He can only wait until gametime and say he was on games at lines available on Weds

[The General]

Monkeys everywhere! I love this thread!

Genny you wily old loon, do you have any idea what you're talking about! Let's go drinks some BEER!!

Not really, I just speak and maybe it will stick. I'm like many and can give good advice often, but don't follow it.

I have to pass on the Beer, but it does sound ok.

[MonkeyF0cker]

i invented shopping, what you talking about.. but posting you have +14 and telling people to go out and bet it when line is flashing +12.5 everywhere is not justifiable.. and you know this..

YOU ONLY POSTED THIS GAME AND LINE CAUSE YOU SAW LINE WAS TUMBLING DOWN, AND FAST...

Had you posted this play 24 hrs ago, i would not be here.. i'd be congratulating you.. but then again, you would never do this..

you know i am right here and i know you agree with me..if i did same as you here, you'd be hammering me now..i know it..

there is no diff what you did than post Lakers -12.5 when screen is now Lakers -14 cause Kobe is now healthy and you are telling everyone to be lakers -12.5 when line is now -14..

no difference at all.

I told them to hit them if they could find the number. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I had my wager in already. I'm not like you. I'm not desperately searching for praise. I was simply trying to give people a solid side to play. And as you can see, several were still able to find good numbers.

[smitch124]

Good Luck today MF!

[Nicky Santoro]

Nicky when Monkey posts predictions he gets hammered like NBA Finals Series price

He can only wait until gametime and say he was on games at lines available on Weds

you seem to know this guy,too..

onner, forget NBA finals, did you just see MLB series prices.. lol.. i predicted both series, he came in each thread and told me i was way off, he gave his prediction for each.. both were about 40 cents off of mine.. but then he said, ONLY pinny closers count..he goes by pinny closers..

to make a long story short.. they both end up bang on my prediction, and for him, he was off 40 cents on each.. both by pinny closers.. what a tool..

[MonkeyF0cker]

Nicky when Monkey posts predictions he gets hammered like NBA Finals Series price

He can only wait until gametime and say he was on games at lines available on Weds

That's why I posted my entire card, genius.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I'm not here to argue with anyone and respect all of you guys. I do have an opinion on posting plays that may fit the topic here. When posting plays on a board, I am a fan of the numbers being widely available. With that said, I understand both sides of the argument. The topic serves as a couple reminders and Good lessons.

1. Try and do your own work if you can when Handicapping games.
2. Always play into good lines and pass if the moves have beat you.

Have a good day & good luck

Damn, if a guy post a play, give him some slack and don't bust his balls over a half point here or there. He may have taken an early line or he may have even bought a point. Who gives a fuk. Give him the benefit of the doubt. It's his money any way. As long as someone's not posting plays after the game why are you worrying about small shit.

[MonkeyF0cker]

you seem to know this guy,too..

onner, forget NBA finals, did you just see MLB series prices.. lol.. i predicted both series, he came in each thread and told me i was way off, he gave his prediction for each.. both were about 40 cents off of mine.. but then he said, ONLY pinny closers count..he goes by pinny closers..

to make a long story short.. they both end up bang on my prediction, and for him, he was off 40 cents on each.. both by pinny closers.. what a tool..

Wrong. A shame there isn't a public line service that archives those lines. You'd certainly look silly.

[The General]

I understand both sides of the argument, Mac. MonkeyF0ck knows I respect his knowledge and surely knows I'm not one to bust any body's balls. I got to many defects myself to be an arsehole to anyone live or on line.

[Nicky Santoro]

I told them to hit them if they could find the number. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I had my wager in already. I'm not like you. I'm not desperately searching for praise. I was simply trying to give people a solid side to play. And as you can see, several were still able to find good numbers.

stop with the bullshit.. only your buddies are buying it.. they're just kissing your ass.. you NEVER give a play here that only exists in 2 books, or 1 book..and when lines are in the process of moving down aggressively.. it was +12.5 when you posted this..why did you not post this when line was painted +14's..and as for getting praise, people that post their picks are only doing it to try to get praise, like you here. they want to be praised, like you've been doing here since day 1 trying to always sound smarter than me by going into each of my threads and correcting me..


ok so i'll tell you what, next time i make a bet on Celtics -5.5 and i see screen turning black going to -7 and -7.5, can i post i got celtics -5.5? same shit you did here..

[Nicky Santoro]

Wrong. A shame there isn't a public line service that archives those lines. You'd certainly look silly.

yeah, a shame there isn't cause you'd look silly.. i swear both were within pennies of my prediction.. if you can prove i'm wrong, i'll send you 844 pts right now..

[MonkeyF0cker]

now you're really making me laugh.. this coming from a guy that hammered fishhead forever for posting Mich +8 when line was +9.5? lol.. and you kept hammering him telling him it was a -ev play and the wrong side, and he won, too..

and you are saying i am ruining it for you???

stop it monkey, now you are really making me laugh.

each play i have posted here at sbr that won, and line moved my way, too.. you also came in and hammered me.. i post real line predictions that were bang on, and you always come in to correct me.. (and youre always wrong too) so stop with the bullshit..

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/243554-ok-line-has-peaked-imo-michigan-8-my-pod-saturday.html

Read the thread, moron. There were no +9.5's when he posted that. I told him it was -EV before the line moved against him.

[MrMonkey]

you seem to know this guy,too..

onner, forget NBA finals, did you just see MLB series prices.. lol.. i predicted both series, he came in each thread and told me i was way off, he gave his prediction for each.. both were about 40 cents off of mine.. but then he said, ONLY pinny closers count..he goes by pinny closers..

to make a long story short.. they both end up bang on my prediction, and for him, he was off 40 cents on each.. both by pinny closers.. what a tool..

I told you before Nicky I love you, just not like Onner does! This kinda to me is like a stale line you talk about! Which one of you two will finally get tired of this freak show first? Yes Nicky, you win, as you just stated MonkeyFocker is only getting his ass kissed while you are getting your cock..............

[onthewhat]

I think even Monkey's friends would agree that posting "plays" at lines available last Wednesday is pretty shady.

That's all we're saying. If you're going to post a play, post it at the available line.

Or when you make your play at your "good line", post the pick on Wednesday.

Is that so hard to do?

[Bread]

Loserville. It takes a village. Of idiots.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I'm not here to argue with anyone and respect all of you guys. I do have an opinion on posting plays that may fit the topic here. When posting plays on a board, I am a fan of the numbers being widely available. With that said, I understand both sides of the argument. The topic serves as a couple reminders and Good lessons.

1. Try and do your own work if you can when Handicapping games.
2. Always play into good lines and pass if the moves have beat you.

Have a good day & good luck

1. There is no point in posting plays if you don't set at least a threshold price.

2. It pretty much defeats the purpose of posting plays at only widely available prices if the value is gone from most places. See number 1.

[MrMonkey]

These are the lines I will be grading Monkey with. It is too much of a coincidence and highly unlikely that 11 games move his way by a point or more in most cases, 3 games he has widely available number with some square linesets having a half point off, and then a few games on the 3 and 7 that are only available at those numbers.

Those are the lines he gets......the ones I just posted. We will grade him.

Where are Nicky's plays let alone lines that you will be grading?

[Nicky Santoro]

I think even Monkey's friends would agree that posting "plays" at lines available last Wednesday is pretty shady.

That's all we're saying. If you're going to post a play, post it at the available line.

Or when you make your play at your "good line", post the pick on Wednesday.

Is that so hard to do?

amen,

thanks onner, it seems like you might be the only one in this thread that understands this whole process or the only one in this thread not kissing his ass..

and here is a better one.. i swear the CLEMSON game, when he posted that play, they were already up 7-0.. check time stamp and check game when it started. he's even past posting now, too.. lol


IF YOU ARE GOING TO POST A PLAY, PUT THE REAL ACTUAL CURRENT LINE, NOT AFTER A GAME MOVED 2 PTS ACROSS THE BOARD. AND POST ALL YOUR PLAYS OF CURRENT LINE, NOT WHAT YOU GOT IT AT 2 DAYS AGO..

WHAT A LOSER..

[MonkeyF0cker]

Ok. Nicky has officially bored me and I have work to do. GL guys.

[pavyracer]

I got it at 14. It was all over the place. Thanks MonkeyF0cker.

[SmackdownV]

Boy,

Ohio State sure came out like a bag of shit today.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........No TV coverage...........No way to watch the game.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Very Very fishy around here.

[Bread]

Just piled on with Pur 2nd half +7.

GO US!!

[teaserpleaser]

just need ohio st to come back and win this game im on the ML ... Pryor lets go

[onthewhat]

I think even Monkey's friends would agree that posting "plays" at lines available last Wednesday is pretty shady.

That's all we're saying. If you're going to post a play, post it at the available line.

Or when you make your play at your "good line", post the pick on Wednesday.

Is that so hard to do?

Will one of Monkey's minions answer this?

[pavyracer]

Will one of Monkey's minions answer this?

This is from SBR Lines:

POINTSPREADS
10/14 13:59 -14 -115 / +14 -10510/17 00:03 -14 -120 / +14 +10010/17 03:31 -14½ -115 / +14½ -10510/17 11:31 -14½ -110 / +14½ -11010/17 11:47 -14 -115 / +14 -105

[Bread]

Herman, it's cute when you pretend that you belong in big boy conversations.

[losturmarbles]

I think even Monkey's friends would agree that posting "plays" at lines available last Wednesday is pretty shady.

That's all we're saying. If you're going to post a play, post it at the available line.

Or when you make your play at your "good line", post the pick on Wednesday.

Is that so hard to do?

it was available at 14 when he posted.

why does it matter anyway? he wasn't posting it to prove he was getting the best line. he was only sharing his best play. i disagree with monkeyfocker on a lot of things, but i'll gladly consider his handicapping skills over most of the rest of people posting plays.

don't you have nothing else better to do than to troll a thread where someone is sharing something of value?

[lakerboy]

Although Monkeyfocker doesnt like me and told me i am retarded the other day anyone who saw this post when it came out and didnt pound purdue is the real retard.

[20Four7]

i got a 14 -110 a couple hours ago

you all need more books

lets see if purdue can **** me for the 5th straight week

LOL durito, purdue to you is ball state for me. after 3 consecutive ass rapings I didn't play them. ain't going to this week either.

[Nicky Santoro]

when you boys understand the logic behind gambling, then you can talk.. what he did was dishonest, which is why you boys don't understand.. posting a game while he sees a line moving his way is NOT right.. had that line still stayed +14, i'd understand, but heavy steam was coming in, so he decided to post it.. line did NOT exist anymore, whether you want to believe this or not.. pinny had +12.5 at that time.

if every poster followed the screen and posted games right when they were moving and got them at that previous #, then it would be great, and not one gambler would lose money over the long haul. had that line went to +15, no way he posts it..

so next time anyone sees lakers -12 go to -14 and then 5 min after says, hey boys, i love lakers -12, then he is a fraud..

gambling has nothing to do with picking winners or who he liked, it's all about getting the best line.. that's it..that's all.. whether you want to believe this or not..

one day if i meet you boys in person, i will explain to all you boys the ins and outs of gambling, which you boys don't seem to understand.. YOU KIDS HAVE A LOT TO LEARN..