Phillies are finished!!!!!

Mikail · 10-19-09, 09:42 AM

Today's game is going to be the tell all of this series. Dodgers are once again in a must win situation. Last night was an embarrasment to the Dodgers and their fans. If they can't pick up the W tonight... Dodgers are done!

Regul8er · 10-19-09, 09:45 AM

Managers just give the media the what they want to hear. I would say game 4 is more pivotal then game 3, game 5 is more pivotal then 4, and so on.

Regul8er · 10-19-09, 09:48 AM

Guys, I have money on the Dodgers in NLCS, and at this point, no I don't think they are going to pull it out. I wish I was on the other side, but I'm not. I'm just saying this series is far from being over. When Furcal steps into the batters box around 8:07 tonight, the score is 0-0. The Dodgers are a couple hits away from swinging the momentum back in their favor. Just because they got blown out, doesn't mean the series is done. Today's a new day.

sarms · 10-19-09, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Regul8er

Managers just give the media the what they want to hear. I would say game 4 is more pivotal then game 3, game 5 is more pivotal then 4, and so on.

If you really believe Torre gave the game away then there's no point having this discussion. Why not leave Kuroda in there then and save the pen if he didn't think they would win before the game even started?

ryanjep · 10-19-09, 10:07 AM

its gonna be a good series

Regul8er · 10-19-09, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by sarms

If you really believe Torre gave the game away then there's no point having this discussion. Why not leave Kuroda in there then and save the pen if he didn't think they would win before the game even started?

Sarms......obviously Torre didn't give the game away. He still tried to win the game, he just tried to do so without the services of Wolf. I'll tell you why Torre took Kuroda out. He wanted to see what he could get out of Billingsley. Chad proved he had better stuff, better control, and gave LA some quality innings. Now if game 7 ever rolls around, Torre can scratch the Kuroda project, and either go with Billingsley or Wolf.

cadillac pete · 10-19-09, 10:18 AM

That's one good thing about baseball. There seems to be no hangover effect. Each day is a new beginning.

sarms · 10-19-09, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by ryanjep

its gonna be a good series

agreed, I still think it's Phils in 6. LA must win tonight or it's over in 5. You have to wonder where are the bats for LA. If it wasn't for the misplay by Rollins and Utley in Game 1 Hamels shuts them down and Pedro and Lee were untouchable. Long way to go.

teaserpleaser · 10-19-09, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

Today's game is going to be the tell all of this series. Dodgers are once again in a must win situation. Last night was an embarrasment to the Dodgers and their fans. If they can't pick up the W tonight... Dodgers are done!

I think they are done

sarms · 10-19-09, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Regul8er

Sarms......obviously Torre didn't give the game away. He still tried to win the game, he just tried to do so without the services of Wolf. I'll tell you why Torre took Kuroda out. He wanted to see what he could get out of Billingsley. Chad proved he had better stuff, better control, and gave LA some quality innings. Now if game 7 ever rolls around, Torre can scratch the Kuroda project, and either go with Billingsley or Wolf.

I think it will be Billingsley for sure if it goes 7. But, he knew Game 3 would be tight and went with the best pitcher that he thought could shut the Phils down. If you look at their numbers Kuroda has pretty much shut the Phils down everytime he has pitched., where Wolf has horrible numbers against them. There's a reason Wolf went from the potential Game 1 starter to Game 4, and it's the 5.11 ERA this year, compared to the 0.00 ERA Kuroda had this year and 1.39 ERA last year plus the 3.00 ERA in the playoffs last year.

paco · 10-19-09, 01:40 PM

Phillies will win it all again

POTVINSUX · 10-19-09, 03:01 PM

I'm on Phils and Halos today

Ulver86 · 10-19-09, 03:11 PM

homerboy with another great set of picks

hoopster42 · 10-19-09, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

In sports there are moments that are remembered for good and bad reasons. Matt Holliday and now Chase Utley both let the Dodgers slip away. The Dodgers have no pressure on them in philly and will go in and get it done. Congrats Dodgers backers you will have your money soon.

first ohio state, now the dodgers, man are you gona have several eggs all over your face very soon!

the dodgers extend the series to 6 games max, but philly has this

lakerboy · 10-19-09, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

first ohio state, now the dodgers, man are you gona have several eggs all over your face very soon!

the dodgers extend the series to 6 games max, but philly has this

its all good hoopster i just say my feelings. i dont hide and pretend i won after like some people. i got paid when cards lost to dodgers. i didnt even bet on this series at all. i just wanted to see torre return to new york.

as for ostate that thread was just to start up a conversation and it ended going elsewhere

demize21 · 10-19-09, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by LordVodka

I hope. Would love to see Dodgers vs Yanks and have the Dodgers win it.

wishful thinking but the dodgers don't have a chance against Yankees

Ace_of_Spades · 10-19-09, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by fearless

I think Torre may have sent Kuroda out to pitch against Lee because he knew the Dodgers had almost no chance to beat Lee in this game so why waist Wolf against Lee? Wolf has a great chance to beat Blanton but he would have probably lost to Lee no matter what. In other words, Torre may have kind of given this game away with an eye on winning the other games and the series. I could be wrong, it's just a thought.

Fair point.

cav1x · 10-19-09, 10:57 PM

Damn you broxton...1 goddamn out away from winning the game....just damn you

MrMonkey · 10-19-09, 10:59 PM

Phils just never give up! Clutch players all over the place!

lakerboy · 10-19-09, 11:01 PM

Great job phils. You can thank Pat Gillick for putting that team together.

moses millsap · 10-19-09, 11:02 PM

As Chase said last year, "World F*cking Champions!"

teaserpleaser · 10-19-09, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by teaserpleaser

I think they are done

for sure the dodgers are done now... crushing defeat

minet123 · 10-19-09, 11:03 PM

Never count out the fighten Phills this isn't your Gary Madox teams

G's pks · 10-19-09, 11:05 PM

between this and your chargers will win thread...shades of the king... I think you are jinxing yourself... Maybe stop and see if your losing streak ends...

KQsuited29 · 10-19-09, 11:05 PM

lakerboy your full of shit first u start this thread talk about the Phils are done, are u kidding the dodgers cant F with us son, and talk about u didnt bet the series come one homo You took the dodgers and ur about to give the money back, but dont worry come down to philly wednesday night frankford and cottman ave ill buy ya a beer and u can celebrate with REAL Fans not these bandwagon jumpers, hahahaha WHATS UP BROXTON MEET JIMMY ROLLINS ITS A WRAP OVER, DONE

Mikail · 10-19-09, 11:05 PM

It's all over Dodger backers!!!

MrMonkey · 10-19-09, 11:06 PM

Laker, being a complete Philly sports fan my entire life this group of guys is just different from any other teams from this city in quite awhile. We have had so many pro sport teams choke under pressure! This is totally unreal!!! It still ain't over yet!

paco · 10-19-09, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by paco

Phillies will win it all again

Ace_of_Spades · 10-19-09, 11:07 PM

Dodgers are done now.

MartinBlank · 10-19-09, 11:11 PM

I don't know Laker.

Amaro Jr signed Pedro, Ibanez, and made a great trade for Cliff Lee.

Not sure Gillick had his stamp on any of those.

lakerboy · 10-19-09, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by MartinBlank

I don't know Laker.

Amaro Jr signed Pedro, Ibanez, and made a great trade for Cliff Lee.

Not sure Gillick had his stamp on any of those.

Martin true but I think Gillick built the foundation there and when he left they were very concerned. Amaro has done well. Lee was a goood move cause they got lucky with jays asking for too much allowing them to keep happ.

xmrblueduckyx · 10-19-09, 11:25 PM

the fightin's get it done again!
broxton gives up the MEAT BALL again.
hahahaha. nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey.....
DODGERS ARE DONE!

sarms · 10-19-09, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Martin true but I think Gillick built the foundation there and when he left they were very concerned. Amaro has done well. Lee was a goood move cause they got lucky with jays asking for too much allowing them to keep happ.

Actually it was Ed Wade who laid the foundation, with drafting Ruiz, Howard, Utley, Rollins, Burrell, Hamels, Myers. Gillick just filled in the pieces. Amaro sealed the deal this year at the trade deadline when there was a deal in place for LA to get Lee and Amaro came in at the last minute and stole him away from LA. Still ain't over but I can't see this team losing 3 straight.

Gillick = Blanton, Victorino, Werth, Dobbs, Moyer, Lidge, Feliz. Had a major role in Ibanez, Stairs, Bruntlett, Romero, Eyre, Durbin.

Amaro = Lee, Ibanez, Francisco, Pedro, Park

The rest came up through their farm system.

MartinBlank · 10-19-09, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Martin true but I think Gillick built the foundation there and when he left they were very concerned. Amaro has done well. Lee was a goood move cause they got lucky with jays asking for too much allowing them to keep happ.

No doubt Laker---Gillick built the Phillies. And I suppose you can also credit Gillick for taking Amaro under his wing.

And that Lee trade was one of those head scratchers---Philly gave up absolutely nothing for him and Francisco.

It is going to be tough for LA---they have to beat Hamels, Pedro, and Lee to win this thing. That is a tough row.

TheLock · 10-19-09, 11:55 PM

What a sick night. How do you throw 4 straight balls to Stairs? Unreal. I really wish Garland had started instead of the Asian the other night.

I'm one Dodger loss away from winning my points bet with lakerboy but I'm not happy about it.