Is the steam on the Yankees a new record?

[fearless]

I can't recall ever seeing the kind of steam we're seeing on the Yankees before for an MLB game. In Vegas, LVSC started with the Yankees -280 and the line's currently -400 at some Vegas books. On the internet, the Yankees started -285 at Pinnacle and as far as I can see the high was -390 at Bodog.

I've never seen steam like this for an MLB game, has anyone?

[topgame85]

Not for a playoff game ever we will see what happens got +1.5 +155 all day

[fearless]

Anyone want to guess how much money's been bet on the Yankees?

Remember the Al Pacino character in "Two for the Money"? With this kind of steam it's like every real-life guy like that must be telling his big-time clients to take the Yankees HEAVY. There's some serious action on the Yankees to say the least.

[yisman]

Line dropped after, though.

I've seen worse.

On Matchbook, it peaked at +350 on the Twins.

[fearless]

Line dropped after, though.

I've seen worse.

On Matchbook, it peaked at +350 on the Twins.

The line dropped on the net but at Golden Nugget and M Resort (to name two that I know of) the current line of -400 IS THE PEAK.

[yisman]

wow, that's out of control. Must be a lot of vig, or else you'd figure people would jump on the inflated line for the Twins.

The public drove the line up, but there were obviously sharps waiting for the line to hit +330 or +340, which would send the line the other way, like what happened on Matchbook.

The opening line was weak, IMO. I would've set it higher, anticipating people drooling over taking the Yankees and Sabathia against an inferior opponent without rest.

[pavyracer]

Just to make it clear. Duensing has pitched 11 innings in his last three games. He pitched 6 innings on 9/23, 5 innings on 9/29 and 1 inning on 10/4. I don't understand why you claim he is not rested.

[yisman]

huh? Inferior opponent without rest.

I didn't mean Duensing.

"opponent" refers to the team.

The Twins played last night until 10 PM EDT and didn't arrive in New York until 3 AM EDT. That's without rest.

[Fiasco]

baseball players are more used to it than other sports

I see why one would calculate rest into it but I can't see it effecting tonights game

I'll be on +1.5 +150 all day

[pavyracer]

If this was a football or basketball game I can understand fatigue. Baseball does not cause fatigue. Guys are chewing sunflower seeds during the game for Christ's sake.

[oda11]

If this was a football or basketball game I can understand fatigue. Baseball does not cause fatigue. Guys are chewing sunflower seeds during the game for Christ's sake.

So truth.

[topgame85]

Only fatigue in baseball is a used up bull pen

[BobHarvey]

I think Yankees -1.5 is the way to go. Not that it's cheap at -167 but I don't care what anyone says. Forget the "rest" these guys (Twins) are emotiionally spent. It took a lot out of them just to force the tie-breaker. Then a one-game, 12-inning winner take all playoff.

Either the Yanks on the RL or nothing else.

[yisman]

If this was a football or basketball game I can understand fatigue. Baseball does not cause fatigue. Guys are chewing sunflower seeds during the game for Christ's sake.

there's fatigue from travel, though.

I wouldn't want to fly in and arrive at 3 AM for a game that's being played 15 hours later. The players had to be at the ballpark less than 12 hours after they arrived in New York.

There's also an impact on the bullpen. I don't know about the availability of Minnesota's key guys tonight.


There's good value on Minnesota today, but there's no question that things set up very nicely for the Yankees. By my estimate, they have a 69-70% chance of winning today.

[fearless]

I can see that all this steam isn't coming from the kind of people who are on this forum. That's comforting because when steam comes from the kind of people on this forum it usually loses (see the last Sunday night and Monday night games).

[jjgold]

Wind is crazy here

might change things

[lakerboy]

For what its worth teams coming off a 1 game playoff win are 4-3 all time in game 1.

[fearless]

For what its worth teams coming off a 1 game playoff win are 4-3 all time in game 1.

Who are you picking for this game?

[lakerboy]

Who are you picking for this game?

Im not betting on this game. I pick the yanks to romp- cc will do what lee did today

[yisman]

I can see that all this steam isn't coming from the kind of people who are on this forum. That's comforting because when steam comes from the kind of people on this forum it usually loses (see the last Sunday night and Monday night games).

small-time bettors on this forum. Steam can be correlated with what posters here are doing, but not caused. Correlation, not causation.

[fearless]

small-time bettors on this forum. Steam can be correlated with what posters here are doing, but not caused. Correlation, not causation.

What everybody calls "the public" is mostly a collection of small bettors and "the public" can cause steam, of course they can.

[yisman]

of course, but what I'm saying is the people posting what they're playing (whoever the forum is on) doesn't amount to much. 20 small-time bettors don't move lines. The public is huge.

For example, the Court Jester, who does more chest-pounding than anyone I've ever seen, bets $50 on his typical attention-whoring thread.

[fearless]

of course, but what I'm saying is the people posting what they're playing (whoever the forum is on) doesn't amount to much. 20 small-time bettors don't move lines. The public is huge.

For example, the Court Jester, who does more chest-pounding than anyone I've ever seen, bets $50 on his typical attention-whoring thread.

I guess what I was really saying was that it wasn't the public that caused this steam, this was sharp money or syndicates or touts or a combination of all three, imho.

[mathdotcom]

Yankees often -400, -425 closer to start of the decade but only in regular season

[fearless]

Yankees often -400, -425 closer to start of the decade but only in regular season

I was talking about the steam move not the odds number.