Please rate the "other" BETTING EXCHANGES

Doug · 03-07-07, 11:28 PM

I haven't heard of most of those, only use Matchbook, used to love Mansion.

Wild Reet · 03-07-07, 11:57 PM

There's ehorseX which is mainly horse racing, pro football, and NASCAR. Only championship events in other sports.

They don't cover transfer fees.

FightForCalifornia · 03-08-07, 12:23 AM

Why use anything other than matchbook? Exchanges depend on having a lot of players, so a few really big ones is much better than a lot of small ones.

I deposited to matchbook last Tues, still haven't been credited, hope it's in there by Friday.

dialilas · 03-08-07, 12:33 AM

others:

betfair
betbull
24hpoker
Intrade

BadAzz · 03-08-07, 01:29 AM

Betbull is a skin for Betdaq
24HPoker is a skin for RedBet

In addition there is
BetOnBet
SupporterBet
MatchMyWager - Parbet's software, Parbet went poker only
BetAndGame - Never played there

kiwi · 03-08-07, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by new2betting

So, what is left on the list?

Matchbook -

Betdaq -

Mansion -

Betsson -

Mybet -

iBetX -

I would rate them like this:

Matchbook - B (good, but no Euro-accounts)

Betdaq - B (good in AH soccer)

Mansion - B+

Betsson - B (good for soccer half time betting)

Mybet - D

iBetX - D- (slow pay)

BetOnBet - B (low commission rate)

SupporterBet - D- (not useful at all, bad website...)

MatchMyWager - C (sometimes good correct score odds)

ShamsWoof10 · 03-08-07, 02:12 AM

Great info. fokes great info. great thread too keep it coming guys... I like hearing what everyone has to say...

new2betting · 03-08-07, 02:18 AM

Thanks for the info. Very informative. Never even knew there were those other exchanges out there. Wish they would just consolidate to have more action and value.

I like betting on exchanges because (for me) it remove the guilt when I win. If I win big (percentage-wise) against a sportsbook... I always think...hey are they about to limit me or something like that.

With Exchanges, you are "limited" by the volume/value of the bets that are on the board and I don't mind winning against someone on the "other side".

By the way, have you guys seen this book
maybe someone should write one for Matchbook too.

Cheers and good luck to us all!!!

new2betting · 03-08-07, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by kiwi

I would rate them like this:

Matchbook - B (good, but no Euro-accounts)

Betdaq - B (good in AH soccer)

Mansion - B+

Betsson - B (good for soccer half time betting)

Mybet - D

iBetX - D- (slow pay)

BetOnBet - B (low commission rate)

SupporterBet - D- (not useful at all, bad website...)

MatchMyWager - C (sometimes good correct score odds)

Hi! Seems you've been around and done some homework. I am surprised to see that you have high ratings for MANSION. The only advantage I see about MANSION is that there are "readily available" bets on the board already since they are actually a "sportsbook".

I've seen Betsson and there does not seem to have any American action like NBA.

Betdaq so far looks to be an "equal" to Matchbook although they cater more to Euro sports.

BetonBet --- will check this out. I like the "low commission"...anything low or free is good as long as it is not too good to be true.

In my opinion, the top 2 (after BetFair) would be Betdaq (for Euro sports) and Matchbook (for U.S. Sports).

Great post!

ShamsWoof10 · 03-08-07, 02:29 AM

agree with the above point about the guilt factor...
What are the best exchanges for US Sports (besides matchbook) and that have a format most similar to US sportsbooks..? I am still a bit in the dark with the exchange format...

new2betting · 03-08-07, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

agree with the above point about the guilt factor...
What are the best exchanges for US Sports (besides matchbook) and that have a format most similar to US sportsbooks..? I am still a bit in the dark with the exchange format...

I would stick to Matchbook for US Sports and they come highly recommended around here. Once the game is done, you can see your funds credited right away ... ready to play again.

Their software (not sure if they made it themselves) is the easiest to use among the various exchanges. And I love their "straightforwardly cool" descriptions and FAQ.

Please go check them out and see how easy they are to use. I just figured out the "back & lay" in 5 minutes.

If there is nothing yet inside (like NBA as of this exact time), you can do some experimental "postings" and see how it affects the board.

Goodluck!

ShamsWoof10 · 03-08-07, 02:38 AM

excellent..

Thank You

BadAzz · 03-08-07, 02:45 AM

Matchbook is by far the best for US sports.
If they only offered accounts in EUR...

Betfair, Mansion and Betdaq for soccer

Betsson, Redbet, BetOnBet and MatchMyWager are pretty much interchangeable imho. I'd personally take BetOnBet propably, due to 3% comission.

SupporterBet is useless.

pags11 · 03-08-07, 03:44 AM

matchbook is the only exchange I use and the only one I'd consider using at this point...

new2betting · 09-30-07, 01:14 AM

After a couple of months using the following betting exchanges (aside from Pinnacle and Bet365):

Betdaq
Betsson
Mansion
Matchbook

I think I can now do some personal ratings.

Matchbook 4.5/5
- fast pay-out via moneybookers
- easy-to-understand software interface
- fast loading
- organized
- good liquidity
- great odds
- low commission as compared to the others
- the best "all-around" exchange after Betfair
- BUT lacks European sports (at least liquidity wise)

Betsson 4.0/5
- fast pay-out via moneybookers
- good software and design
- good liquidity for European sports
- has a "sister" sportsbook just in case you need more bets
- odds are one of the best
- sometimes slow-loading
- BUT lacks liquidity on American Sports

Betdaq 3.5/5
- fast pay-out via moneybookers
- software looks too busy and confusing compared to the others
- 5% commission is not considered low
- wide selection of "international" sports
- good liquidity near game-time

MANSION 3.0/5
- fast pay-outs
- charges now for deposits
- not a wide range of sports selections
- software is presentable but does not look "alive"
- no tennis
- some "issues" regarding "stability" since it is Indonesia-related

In my opinion, Matchbook has the "potential" to be the next BetFair. I enjoy Matchbook for its user-friendliness and liquidity.

Others exchanges I may try-out (unless someone tells me otherwise):

www.redbet.com (looks very primitive to me)

www.betonbet.com (haven't heard too much about them)

www.mybet.com (any issues here?)

www.matchmywager (not sure if it safe)

www.backandlay.com (supposed to be the 1% commission exchange but it is currently down for maintenance)

www.wbx.com (they do not accept moneybookers... which is a mistake)

www.tradebetx.com (is this an exchange?)

Hoping for more feedback. I am winding-down with the other exchanges and will be keeping Matchbook since I have Pinnacle and Bet365 too.

aca · 09-30-07, 02:40 AM

Betfair is #1

F*** the rest!

new2betting · 09-30-07, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by aca

Betfair is #1

F*** the rest!

Maybe you did not read the first post of this thread carefully. This has nothing to do with Betfair at all.

LVHerbie · 10-01-07, 12:35 AM

So I don't have to look at each of these links do any of these accept americans besides matchbook? (I know betfair, betsson, and mansion are out...)

LargeMouthBass · 10-01-07, 12:52 AM

Stick with Matchbook and you will be fine...

SPECULATOR 13 · 10-01-07, 11:28 AM

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NEW2BETTING:

Never mind the guilt?what do you mean guilt,i don't get it?In any case What about the security you have with a exchange?the security that there not gona f*ck you up in "mid stream",Weather you are on a losing or winning streak!!
With these exchange you know you will be allowed to grow and make a living,you only have to worry about winning your bets,that all!!One would think that this would be a given.A month ago i didn't know what a exchange was

,thanks to Bill Dozier and the guys on this great website i was schooled into the exchange world.Today i swear by it,it as become a obsession almost.I have notice that mansion does not get much love ,neither does tradesports!!All the other exchange don't even bother to to have odds on american sports in american f*cking odds,why bother with them?.Except for Mansion,Matchbook and Tradesports(whom provide american odds),i am going to open a account tomorrow with Mansion they told me today that they "offer ice soccer" betting so now i have 3 great sources to bet.With all this exchange talk,we should not forget the great books whom operate like a exchange i.e they balance their actions and take the juice.
Here is a great line-up:

*unlimited
limits :
*Matchbook *Pinnacles:NFL betting limit=50k
*Mansion *Wsex :NFL betting limit=30k
*Tradesports *Bookmaker/Betcris/DSI= 5k across the board
*Canbet :NFL betting limit=15k(SURPRISE!?)
With this who needs Vegas?!.

bigboydan · 10-19-07, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by new2betting

By the way, have you guys seen this book
maybe someone should write one for Matchbook too.

I just wish I could play at BetFair.

new2betting · 10-19-07, 11:20 PM

I am currently enjoying 2 exchanges right now since I also can't play at Betfair:

Betdaq - good asian handicap betting and live betting

Matchbook - all around very good but lacks asian handicaps and volume at Euro sports.

The combination of these 2 exchanges is good enough for me.

I thought that Betdaq was too busy-looking at first but realized that it is very easy to use and quite organized. Fast-loading software too. But most importantly, they pay within a few hours.

It would be nice to see an SBR review on Betdaq.

bigboydan · 10-20-07, 10:32 PM

Glad to see your happy with both those exchanges, but I feel that their more transaction fees and less liquidity than matchbook IMO.

bigboydan · 10-23-07, 01:00 PM

Bwin have joined with Betbull in a joint venture agreement aimed at taking advantage of the new market opportunities in Spain.

new2betting · 10-23-07, 06:22 PM

www.betbull.com bought their technology/skin from www.betdaq.com.

More volume at Betdaq of course.

greg66 · 10-23-07, 08:01 PM

I use Matchbook and Tradebetx. I am also curious what other exchages are open to US.

new2betting · 10-23-07, 09:53 PM

greg66,

I think you are limited to those two exchanges. I am not even sure how tradebetx works. Is it like the traditional exchanges like betfair, betdaq and matchbook?

I am enjoying betdaq's asian handicap betting right now. I think some of Mansion's clients switched here since not all players are allowed on betfair.

Matchbook is very good especially on US sports. They need to many add Asian Handicaps etc similar to Betdaq to gain the Euro market. Matchbook has super fast pay-outs too. You are safe there.

I don't know if matchbook shows how much $$$ are matched on bets. Betdaq, Betfair, Betsson and other exchanges do.

bigboydan · 10-24-07, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by greg66

I use Matchbook and Tradebetx. I am also curious what other exchages are open to US.

Unfortunately, I think we (U.S. players) are pretty much limited to those two only.

I also noticed that Tradebetx just changed their rules on "season contracts", so you might want to check it out before you place any wagers.

Barney Rubbles · 09-08-08, 04:25 AM

Wow I just took a look at matchbook and there is like zero liquidity on all the boxing matches, baseball looks ok. Nothing on English PL however it's still a while to go.

Zero bets in tennis at Bucharest. Decent money for US Politics. No where near Betfair and too few markets to bet on.

LGBoots · 09-08-08, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by new2betting

After a couple of months using the following betting exchanges (aside from Pinnacle and Bet365):

Betdaq 3.5/5
- fast pay-out via moneybookers
- software looks too busy and confusing compared to the others
- 5% commission is not considered low
- wide selection of "international" sports
- good liquidity near game-time

Betmate is a Betdaq skin but it only charges 3% comm

kiwi · 09-08-08, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by LGBoots

Betmate is a Betdaq skin but it only charges 3% comm

Most important are the AH-bets though because there is the best liquidity (concerning AH better than Betfair) and here also Betdaq offers 2% commission.

2iron · 09-08-08, 10:42 AM

i have been with tradesports for a couple of years...what i like about them is:

1. have a market maker for featured games which allows to you trade out of a position.
2. can put in bid/offers between the market maker prices and trade with another member.
3. offer many more featured games than the other exchanges.
4. can still put in bid/offers on non featured games after they have started.
5. request a check on monday...receive it by saturday regular mail...never had one problem with getting checks.