my top sportsbooks

MartinBlank · 09-21-09, 02:46 PM

You only listed one book.

Any others?

magynuck · 09-21-09, 02:55 PM

2. Credit Wagering

Always a few good lines available there daily. Great place to bet but....
While there have been no no pays reported to my knowledge, I would keep my exposure there to under 5 or 6 k.

magynuck · 09-21-09, 03:05 PM

3. Cris family

Do not try to beat them on the major North American sports, not gonna happen. For other things a must have. No worries about your money here and payouts are fast and free on Fridays.

MartinBlank · 09-21-09, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by magynuck

2. Credit Wagering

Always a few good lines available there daily. Great place to bet but....
While there have been no no pays reported to my knowledge, I would keep my exposure there to under 5 or 6 k.

Credit Wagering?

Yeah, hear that sound? It is this thread hitting the wall.

magynuck · 09-21-09, 03:10 PM

Like I said Martin, do not really trust them. They are easily beatable and that is why they are there. You can move them or ignore them when I finish my top 10. Just doing this to help out anyone who can use it to their advantage.

durito · 09-21-09, 03:13 PM

How about stopping this thread now

magynuck · 09-21-09, 03:15 PM

Why durito. I value your opinion.

durito · 09-21-09, 03:16 PM

More for us

magynuck · 09-21-09, 03:33 PM

Honestly how many people will read this and glean the value from it. Most will still "cap" the games and "krow od". For the small % that might, I am not afraid of a bit more competition. The thing that bothers me most is because of the paranoia amongst us, myself included, I do this in isolation. I do well enough to leave a 75k job because it is a waste of time comparitively but I wish I had the opportunity to bounce ideas around like minded individuals to become even more efficient.

durito · 09-21-09, 03:35 PM

Check the handicapper think tank here. It's been pretty useless recently but some of the older threads are absolute gold mines.

And feel free to keep posting your list, I was just kidding.

magynuck · 09-21-09, 03:43 PM

One example I will use is props. I am barely invested in this market. At times I feel where would i make the time and at other times I think of all the opportunities wasted.

themajormt · 09-21-09, 03:47 PM

I have played props ONE time and that was the NE/Car Super Bowl. I put $100 on 7 props and won every single one! The worst part is betmaker was running a contest that if you parlayed 6 or more props and they would like triple the payout or something like that.

Props seem like they are definitely beatable... The main one that I remember was the total number of Carolina players to have a reception and the over/under was I think 9. I went to the Carolina roster, they had 3 RB's and like 6 or 7 WR's at the time. So I was like well hmmm, almost EVERY player would have had to have a catch so I took under and I think it finished at 6...

But do books offer this stuff all the time?

Durito are you strictly a prop bettor?

durito · 09-21-09, 03:48 PM

Props are easy money. You'll get limited on them by most books fast enough, especially if you aren't playing other stuff. But, I am still making good money on them right now. Football is the best time, in a few weeks I'll be playing hundreds every Sunday.

It really depends though on the size of your bankroll if it's worth your time (and obviously other issues it you aren't doing this full time).

magynuck · 09-21-09, 03:48 PM

4. Partybets/Gamebookers

Huge selection and great opportunities. Paid in hours. Probably a good idea not to hit their estonian soccer lines or their mixed midget beach volleyball for the max because it may hasten the inevitable limit cuts. There seem to be ways to lengthen the time you are welcomed here.

durito · 09-21-09, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by themajormt

But do books offer this stuff all the time?

The Super Bowl is obviously the best game to bet props. And many people clean up on them every year. Especially if you can get to vegas when they come out (i've not done this though, and still done quite well the last two years).

Originally posted by themajormt

Durito are you strictly a prop bettor?

No, but at this point it's something I spend a lot of time on. I also play teasers, quarters, halves, and small sports (plus any off #'s I come across for big sports) For smaller bankrolls these are the things people should concentrate on.

magynuck · 09-21-09, 03:53 PM

I do this as my job durito. Bankroll can handle it. The closest thing I do is quarters,halves,1st 5,periods,etc. Don't have the energy to scan the lines and teach myself all the props.

As to when you 1st chimed in, you are not worried about someone beating you to the cris lines because you know who clones them and you will get your play in there

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durito · 09-21-09, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by themajormt

But do books offer this stuff all the time?

Sorry, I meant to write some more there and there seems to be no edit button right now.

The rest of the year there are still plenty of opportunities. Every book in the world has tons of props on MNF and SNF. Others have props on every NFL game (greek, bodog, sportsbook.com) and many NCAAF games. Lots of places have daily MLB props. NHL props are perhaps the easiest money there is if you can find them. Tons of NBA props too, especially during playoffs (easy money out there on these). NCAA tourney as well.

Many require little more than season stats and the poisson. You can get way more complicated, but it's a trade off on how much time you want to spend on something with a $200-500 limit. The nice thing sometimes is many books copy other books, so you can sometimes get down a limit bet at a few shops.

durito · 09-21-09, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by magynuck

I do this as my job durito. Bankroll can handle it. The closest thing I do is quarters,halves,1st 5,periods,etc. Don't have the energy to scan the lines and teach myself all the props.

As to when you 1st chimed in, you are not worried about someone beating you to the cris lines because you know who clones them and you will get your play in there

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Well, it's pretty clear that eventually my time will better spent on other things. But, I imagine I will always be betting some props.

Sounds like you know enough to where these would be pretty easy. Assuming you haven't been kicked out of all the books that offer them.

magynuck · 09-21-09, 04:02 PM

5. ABC/jazz
Great place to play. Not only are their lines beatable, absolutely great support.

I will finish my top 10 tomorrow

jjgold · 09-21-09, 04:22 PM

rebatewager

best rebate program in business on loses and pay fastest out of any book

mihaita666 · 09-21-09, 04:29 PM

sometimes, its not that good to have too many betting choices at your bookie. Take a look at bwin : they offer very often +50 at a soccer match. Wow, you can bet on the number of through-ins ! The more betting options you have the greatest are your chance to lose money.
I love pinny even though they don't offer me many options (moneyline, excellent asian handicaps, excellent overs/unders).
I love betfair ffor they offer me great odds.
Im thinking of opening accounts at 5dimes and ladbrokes (one for america, one for europe).

So, more options to bet, means more options to lose money. It's like when you're wagering, the bookies asks u : So, mister X, do you want to lose your money on the total number of corners in the first half ?

durito · 09-21-09, 04:34 PM

Yes, but the more betting options they offer the far greater chance they make a mistake. BWIN posts odds on everything and anything, this makes them quite easy to beat if I specialize in something. Thus, they are aggressive in limiting people.

Pinnacle, on the other hand, won't offer anything they don't have a good handle on. They've pretty much eliminated all prop offerings, etc.
However, If they are getting beat on something they either get rid of it or cut everyone back (see NCAAB totals in december). Thus, they don't limit anyone. If you can beat them, congrats, you should be quite rich by now.

magynuck · 09-21-09, 04:40 PM

The more betting options you have, the better your chance of finding an edge. Bwin would make the list if they let anyone play there who has a clue. If you want to come here and say you play at bwin please read previous sentence. Just like Bet365 which is disparagingly called Bet$3.65. I call them Bet 3 hours and 65 seconds because that is how long you last there if you are betting with an edge.

JJ be patient until tomorrow while I re-bate(sic) my hook.

mihaita666 · 09-21-09, 04:48 PM

well, bwin wins, no matter what. for example, if you want to bet on odd or even number of points in a basketball match, odds offered are 1.85 for both odd and even, so its obviously that they win no matter what.

magynuck · 09-21-09, 04:52 PM

And if I bet odd/even with that juice I would be allowed to play there. But since I bet other lines I quickly became no longer welcome.

durito · 09-21-09, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by mihaita666

well, bwin wins, no matter what. for example, if you want to bet on odd or even number of points in a basketball match, odds offered are 1.85 for both odd and even, so its obviously that they win no matter what.

Any book is gonna win on coin toss type props. That's not the point. If a monkey can price something correctly, then the book should do it. But, on some stuff, they literally have moneys pricing them and if you have a brain you can do it better.

One of these days I'm gonna make a BWIN account. I bet I last one day.