Philosophy Frog Helps Out With Sammy Stiffed Posters

[VegasDave]

SBR's official stance, as has already been made clear multiple times, is that you wager points with other posters AT YOUR OWN RISK, and SBR WILL NOT compensate you for posters stiffing.

That said, I've got 245 points in my personal bank, and this seems like a good a time as any to use them.

Here's what people were stiffed for...

Richboy 95
Nickelicious 50
masr 50
Jimmy0607 19
tullamore 75
Pokernut 35

...since I only have 75% of the points that were stiffed, I can only give out about 75%, which comes out to...

Richboy 72
Nickelicious 38
masr 38
Jimmy0607 14
tullamore 57
Pokernut 26

Hopefully Sam will save face a little bit and do the right thing and pay off the difference.

Godspeed, and may the frog be with you.

[TheLock]

Nice gesture but this has put a real stain on SBR Points wagering which up until now, did not need intervention.

[Richkas]

Nice gesture

[StraitShooter]

[topgame85]

Don't see a problem with seizure and redistribution of pts personally

[MexicanStallion]

I said this in the other thread, but I will say it again.. Dave you are a stand up guy. I hope Sammy does do the right thing and pay you all those points and the difference. You shouldnt clean up his mess, but you are a nice guy

[VegasDave]

Sam, you've got 129...

Richboy 95 - 72 = 23
Nickelicious 50 - 38 = 12
masr 50 - 38 = 12
Jimmy0607 19 - 14 = 5
tullamore 75 - 57 = 18
Pokernut 35 - 26 = 9

That's 79 points which you can easily afford. We've all bet over our heads before. Just pay off the difference and make it right and everyone goes home happy.

[Enogsiwon]

you're a nice guy Dave.. you do realize that you could have bought 2 winners off me for those points...

[007Fatty]

Good job Dave!
Sammy deff shouldnt be a lil pussy
its points big deal!

[MrMonkey]

Good job Dave, but shouldn't be necessary! I guess it's not going to be a quiet on duty night for you! I like Sammy as most do here, but he's got to grow up. He just flush all his cred. down the toilet! He had a bad day, but who doesn't! Probably thinks he's being funny, but posters don't seem amused as they shouldn't be!

[007Fatty]

Good job Dave!
Sammy deff shouldnt be a lil pussy
its points big deal!

[toastedbread01]

That is a great move on your part. Now get your CFB picks in! vbg.

Sammy's points should be confiscated and given to the rightful owners. Also, imo, SBR should issue a warning that point-stiffs will be banned.

[Nickelicious]

Sam, you've got 129...

Richboy 95 - 72 = 23
Nickelicious 50 - 38 = 12
masr 50 - 38 = 12
Jimmy0607 19 - 14 = 5
tullamore 75 - 57 = 18
Pokernut 35 - 26 = 9

That's 79 points which you can easily afford. We've all bet over our heads before. Just pay off the difference and make it right and everyone goes home happy.

And if he does that, I will stop haunting his every post and we can all move on. It's not the points, as you all know, it's the principle of the thing.

Thank you VegasDave for being a good Samaritan. It should not have been left up to you to make good on a point stiff, but you stepped forward anyway. We all appreciate it.

[MickChunky]

Nice gesture Dave, but you do realize the guy made a thread basically telling everyone he owed, fuk you-should have used sbrpicks.

It's not like he's just an innocent guy with not enough points to make it right, he decided to be a douche and tell everyone here he doesn't care about anyone but himself

[Justin7]

Players need to learn to take responsibility for their own actions. If you play with a player that isn't on the recommended list, don't be surprised if you get stiffed.

I have a special offer for these players that were stiffed:
Richboy 95
Nickelicious 50
masr 50
Jimmy0607 19
tullamore 75
Pokernut 35

Give me the same number of points. I'll not give them back. Consider it a "twice screwed situation". Once you give them to me (and are now stiffed twice), I hope you learn your lesson. If you give credit to a poster, you're gonna get screwed!

On an equally serious note... If someone you don't know offers you "credit" at a sportsbook, expect to get screwed. Any legitimate credit agent only works with people that have solid references. If you take credit from an unknown, don't expect to get paid when you win.

[VegasDave]

Nice gesture Dave, but you do realize the guy made a thread basically telling everyone he owed, fuk you-should have used sbrpicks.

It's not like he's just an innocent guy with not enough points to make it right, he decided to be a douche and tell everyone here he doesn't care about anyone but himself

Agreed. I'm doing this for the posters that got wronged, not for Sam, who was clearly in the wrong here.

[toastedbread01]

Where can one even find this "recommended list"? It's actually the first time I have heard of it. The thing the bothers me is we are talking about pennies. I would like to think that people respect themselves enough to pay off a few pennies.

If I had enough points, I would start an insurance market on bets.

[SexyMit]

That is why sbrpicks is in effect. You can make a challenge and then both ante up the pts and the winner takes all. Very simple no screwing with that scenerio!

[toastedbread01]

But can you create your own terms and lines?

[yisman]

Nice gesture but this has put a real stain on SBR Points wagering which up until now, did not need intervention.

ijustwant2stiff says hi.

Anyway, I do not believe you should have bailed out Sammy, Dave, but it's a nice gesture.

[rake922]

Players need to learn to take responsibility for their own actions. If you play with a player that isn't on the recommended list, don't be surprised if you get stiffed.

I have a special offer for these players that were stiffed:
Richboy 95
Nickelicious 50
masr 50
Jimmy0607 19
tullamore 75
Pokernut 35

Give me the same number of points. I'll not give them back. Consider it a "twice screwed situation". Once you give them to me (and are now stiffed twice), I hope you learn your lesson. If you give credit to a poster, you're gonna get screwed!

On an equally serious note... If someone you don't know offers you "credit" at a sportsbook, expect to get screwed. Any legitimate credit agent only works with people that have solid references. If you take credit from an unknown, don't expect to get paid when you win.

fair enough, but the VAST majority of guys around here pay their SBR point wagers promptly.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Sam is a dirty he-bi*tch

[BadNina]

You are a sweetheart, Dave.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Hes lost all my respect and should be banned. How low can you go stiffing points? The guy would stiff a blind guy given the chance. I wudnt want this clown bagging my groceries. Try picking up your paycheck next week and on it , it says stiffed. duh

and if that isnt enuff rough scholar will stick yah up the ass trice for this accomplishment.

[yisman]

Dave, can the Philosophy Frog do something about the next scammer? Some guy posted three threads rapid fire about selling his picks for points. Classic scam operation.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Thy frog wizard shall take care of them

[diogee]

Nice gesture Dave and Phil frog.

Lame to stiff points though.

[ryanspeer2001]

Even though it is such a trivial issue with regard to points as currency for betting. I want to say thanks SBR Staff for once again swooping in and protecting the integrity of the forum and your company.

Much MUCH!!! Respect.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

well this is what people were portraying when they said the points system would be bad. Taking bets for real money on the site was a issue in its self. Now when u have points that have monetary value its the same thing. This will continue to be a issue IMHO. I think sbr should only allow players to transfer up to 5 sbr points and no duplicate transfers within a hour. And this is to award posters for good posts. All bets must be made via sbr picks. Because people wont be betting 5 points and under. and if they did no one would be getting stiffed.

[Immortality]

Good job Dave.

[madmaxx]

Sammy pretends to bet a few thousand but stiffs people on points? Strange

[Bread]

Dave I want to give you a big hug!

[Junkyard Dog]

ban him

[Mudcat]

Sure just suspend him until he pays everyone INCLUDING Vegas Dave. Charge interest and penalties. He's not going anywhere. This forum holds too much promise of future pocket change for a dopey nickel-and-dimer like that to just walk away from.

Seriously, I can't believe Philosophy Frog would support such a shallow solution.

[Bread]

I'm going to start the SBR Dopey Nickel-and-Dimer Gang. I will be the Grand Puba of the D-NAG Gang.

Who's comin' with me? Who's comin' with me?!?