Klitschko vs Arreoloa

[Justin7]

I look at this matchup, and I can only think one thing: You've been had.

Arreoloa, with his record of 27-0-1 (24 KOs) Sounds good. So look at who he's fought. I don't recognize a single name on the card. But some of them have good records (at the time of the fight):
Travis Walker 28-1-1
Israel Garcia 19-1
Chazz Witherspoon 23-0
Thomas Hayes 26-1

Looks good, until you look deeper. Take a look at the first one: Travis Walker. The record of his last 4 opponents: 67-70.

Israel Garcia:
He lost his last 2 fights to opponents at 27-0 and 26-0; the prior 3 opponents were a combined 27-26.

Chazz Witherspoon: last 5 fights, combined records of 81-49.

By the numbers, Arreoloa is just a "master of the creme puffs". He has made a career of beating up other guys that do ok against other creme puffs. I'm not convinced that he has any business going into the ring against a world-class boxer.

Arreoloa is not a championship caliber fighter. I don't see how he can compete against superior skill and reach.

I'll lay the chalk: Klitschko -600

[InTheHole]

How many units? (Risk Only Units)

[Justin7]

How many units? (Risk Only Units)

I am risking 3 units to win 0.5 units on it.

[StraitShooter]

Klits is afraid to get hit..Arreola will kill or be killed

Huge upset here

[ZXCVBNM]

Good pick. Everything says Vitali should win but Arreola has a bigger heart and soul than both Klitschko's combined, which is why I hope he wins this fight. He would be a crazy popular champion, he's a very funny guy with a slugfest style.. I love the guy.

On paper though, a same old Klitschko jab jab right hand blowout.

[InTheHole]

-625 at BM....Will pull the trigger if it dips back down. Thanks again

[Justin7]

Arreoloa is the fat white guy

[illmatick]

meh... not worth laying the -600 but Arreoloa's is just an above avg fighter

[The Prick]

that Russian dude is fightin a titty?

[InTheHole]

Arreoloa is the fat Hispanic guy

[InTheHole]

Chris Arreola (born March 5, 1981 in Los Angeles as Cristobal Arreola) is a US Mexican-American heavyweight boxer regarded by some as a "prospect", or potential future champion. Arreola will fight Vitali Klitschko for the WBC Heavyweight Championship of the World on September 26, 2009 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California

[InTheHole]

Just read up on this guy on wiki....NO BET for me

[InTheHole]

Amateur career

Arreola grew up in East LA; his father was a boxer and he started boxing at the age of eight. At 16, he had "about 200 amateur bouts"(Max boxing) before losing interest and quitting. At 20 he got back into boxing and after only three months of training managed to win the National Golden Gloves in 2001 as a light-heavyweight against Dallas Vargas who had about 300 amateur fights at that time.
After another hiatus from boxing, this time for two years, he tried to come back for the 2003 Golden Gloves but arrived shortly after the check-in deadline prompting him to turn pro.

[InTheHole]

In 2003 the Goossen Tutor promoted tattooed 6-foot-4 fighter turned pro at heavyweight with little fanfare. His nickname is "Nightmare." Despite his amateur success, Arreola carried a lackadaisical attitude into the pro ranks. Looking back he says: “I really didn’t know if boxing was going to be my career. I wasn’t sure about turning pro and once I did, I just took it one fight at a time. But then I starting knocking guys out and I gradually started thinking, ‘Hey, maybe I can make some money doing this’.”
At first the offensive-minded Arreola only beat weak opposition but got good sparring in California against Wladimir Klitschko, Hasim Rahman and James Toney. Cris now resides in Riverside, California.
In 2005 he fought Domonic Jenkins who despite his record of only 6-3 held a win over Malcolm Tann (and later KOd amateur stars Victor Bisbal and Carlos Barnett). After trailing for six rounds he turned the fight around and won by KO.
He supposedly then he got his weight under better control, he gradually dropped from a whopping 255 lbs down to 230 lbs. In his last three fights, however, he has been tipping the scales at over 250 pounds once again. Chris's supporters make claims that he has dedicated himself to losing weight, and currently weighs 224 pounds, and is in great shape. These claims are contradicted by a story published by The Ring magazine editors blog on September 2, 2009, where they speak of rumors that "the young slugger isn’t giving 100 percent in the gym and has skipped out on more than one training session during this camp".[1] Another article states that "Two barriers loom larger than the former Berlin Wall for this fight. First, Arreola has seemed heavier, not lighter, than in previous fights." [2] The weight of the evidence seems to support that Arreola will come into the fight carrying too much weight.
In 2006 he stopped durable clubfighter Sedreck Fields, Cuban southpaw Damian Norris (who later defeated the unbeaten Roderick Willis) and in a match of unbeaten Californian prospects Damian Wills (coming in at 22-0-0-0).
In 2007 he KOd former amateur star Zakeem Graham (11-0). He was scheduled to fight undefeated Olympian Devin Vargas , brother of his amateur foe Dallas Vargas, but knocked out late sub Malcolm Tann when Vargas got injured in training, in May 2007 on ShoBox. He KOd Thomas Hayes (record 27-0-0-0) in September 2007, in round 1.
On June 21, 2008, Arreola faced fellow undefeated prospect Chazz Witherspoon (23-0) and defeated him via KO. In the third round, Arreola landed a barrage of punches that was capped off by a chopping right that sent Witherspoon to the canvas. Witherspoon was unable to get up, having been knocked out cold.[3]
On November 29, 2008, Arreola faced Travis Walker. During the 1st round Arreola was overwhelmed by Walker's power and was outboxed. Arreola came back late in the 2nd round after nearly being knocked down to his knees; Arreola knocked Walker down twice afterwards, eventually knocking Walker out early in the 3rd round improving Arreola's record to 26-0.
Arreola is currently ranked in the top 10 by all four major governing bodies.[4]
His coach Henry Ramirez is only 28 years old. “I had other trainers but they didn’t fit my style. I’m a banger,” said Arreola remembering that day. “Henry was always giving guys confidence and I liked that.”


Chris Arreola vs. Jameel McCline; photo courtesy Bret Newton.
Arreola defeated the previously retired heavyweight veteran Jameel McCline (40-8 23 KO's) on April 11 2009, with a knockout at 2:01 of the 4th round. Arreola put McCline down with a combination consisting of an uppercut and right cross, and McCline was out cold. The fight was shown on the undercard of the Paul Williams vs Ronald "Winky" Wright bout on HBO Championship Boxing. Williams KO´d Wright in round 3.
Arreola is scheduled to fight Vitali Klitschko on September 26, 2009 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, CA for the [WBC heavyweight title]]. [5] Klitschko is the heavy betting favorite in the weeks leading up to the fight.

[Justin7]

Anyone see the weigh-in? Arreola doesn't look all that trim...

[InThisMoment]

I've been following Arreola's career and seen most of his recent fights. While McCline is no Klitschko, he does have a similar build. Arreola is a bigger, harder punching version of David Tua. This could turn into a Lewis-Tua type whitewash or a Corrie Sanders shock KO. Cris has a puncher's chance.

[raydog]

yeah justin, but ive never seen him look like he was in shape. arreola is a lard ass who will get jabbed to death until the big right lays him out... will be a typical klitschko fight. huge reach advantage and 10x the boxing skills. chalk is the only play imo.

[nosniboR11]

Thanks justin for a good thread

[illmatick]

over 7.5 +200 is worth a look, played it for 2 units

[flyingillini]

Justin,Thanks for the professional input!

[Justin7]

I'll be very surprised if this one goes over. 1/8 chance Arreola gets lucky, lands a big shot early. If not, he'll get ground down, and I don't seem him going any length of time unless this fight gets weird.

[Matt Rain]

Some money coming in on Arreola at Pinny, now down to +375. Still very low limit though.

[Unicorn7]

I've been following Arreola's career and seen most of his recent fights. While McCline is no Klitschko, he does have a similar build. Arreola is a bigger, harder punching version of David Tua. This could turn into a Lewis-Tua type whitewash or a Corrie Sanders shock KO. Cris has a puncher's chance.

Well said. Not worth the heavy lay. I`ll put 20 bucks on Chris and grab a bag of popcorn

[Matt Rain]

IMO, there's a chance that this turns out to be a heavyweight version of Tszyu-Hatton... the younger volume puncher overwhelms the older guy who's not as mobile as he used to be. Arreola must absolutely get inside and stay there - bad news for him is that VK can create distance just by throwing his monster jab.

I'm starting to find this fight intriguing.

[jayc88]

klitschko is -575 @ betguardian

[Team Ramrod]

over 7.5 +200 is worth a look, played it for 2 units

I like it.

[Fiasco]

I bet the dog just because it's on hbo and should be fun to watch and I don't feel like laying 6 to 1 on something I have no clue about

my reasoning can't lose

[illmatick]

lets get it ramrod, also have a play on Arreola at +400

[Team Ramrod]

By the time I placed my bet on the over is was +165.

[illmatick]

yeah dropped to +170 at the book I bet it earlier

[Enogsiwon]

would someone leave a link to the fight for the King please...

Thanks..

[20Four7]

-585 at bookmaker for those who are interested.

[Enogsiwon]

When does it start? And does anyone have a link?

30 points for a link...

[moses millsap]

https://www.atdhe.net

[Mac4Lyfe]

would someone leave a link to the fight for the King please...

Thanks..

http://atdhe.net/

Klitscho should win in a runaway but thats too much chalk for my liking. GL