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  • Nicky Santoro
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-08-08
    • 16103

    #1
    4 matchbook complaints..
    1- no fukkin game #'s.. during a NCAAF sat afternoon, it is impossible to run through the lines without game #'s.. with 52 games on the board, a person will go nuts.. wait till NCAAB when there are 94 games in 1 day..they should fix this

    2- NFL charging 1% on win and lose is a joke.. -108/+107 is now -110/+105.. I might make only 4 nfl bets there all year.. let it be like MLB at least (0.6%)....they are fukkin greedy now.

    3- customer service clerks are rude as hell now.. especially the women ones.. they hang up on you while you are still talking.. they lose their patience quickly.

    4- When i transfer $$ from a book to there, it is in my acct in 2.3 seconds.. when i ask them to transfer $$ to another book, i wait about 7-12 hrs. they fukkin always give me the runaround.. ALWAYS.. getting money out of there is like pulling teeth.. they hate paying out.. honest they do.. they hate it.. and their excuse is always the same.. we are waiting for confirmation from accounting..why does it take 10 hrs to ask accting for? but like i said, when i make transfer to them, it is in my acct before i even have time to unzip my pants to take a leak, it's in there already.. no need for accounting dept here..

    and today she threatened me that she won't do this all the time for and that this is only a privilege for me.. and their rule is 10k transfers to betphoenix per week and that is exactly what i'm doing.. they are pissed because i have absolutely destroyed them in the past month and i have been taking out the winnings and sending it to betphoenix..

    matchbook has gone from A+ to a B in the official Nicky Santoro Rating Guide..
  • Dark Horse
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-14-05
    • 13764

    #2
    Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
    they are pissed because i have absolutely destroyed them in the past month and i have been taking out the winnings and sending it to betphoenix..
    You destroyed MB?

    Yeah, that would piss them off.
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    • BeatTheJerk
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-19-07
      • 31794

      #3
      excellent points there Santoro .................
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      • Nicky Santoro
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-08-08
        • 16103

        #4
        Originally posted by Dark Horse
        You destroyed MB?

        Yeah, that would piss them off.
        yes my friend, that's right.. cause each time my acct goes very high, i get rid of it and send it elsewhere and my volume is not as high there, which equals less commission for them..
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        • Deuce
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 01-12-08
          • 29843

          #5
          My guess is you will be banned from their book very soon. They lose too
          much.
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          • MartinBlank
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-20-08
            • 8382

            #6
            I am confused. Matchbook is a betting exchange, wouldn't you be destroying other bettors more than destroying Matchbook?
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            • durito
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-03-06
              • 13173

              #7
              my transfers out of matchbook are the fastest ever. they are far and away the easiest and best place to transfer from.

              i'm not sure what's going on with you

              and Nicky? why do they care if you won? their profit is exactly the same


              you still getting those free wsex transfers?
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              • onthewhat
                Restricted User
                • 05-14-08
                • 15411

                #8
                durito he is bankrupting other bettors and withdrawing his winnings

                they would make more money if he made his wagers there rather than phoenix
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                • Nicky Santoro
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-08-08
                  • 16103

                  #9
                  you guys don't understand.. when i get rid of a large portion of my balance from there, it costs them $$$.. and i'm not talking 40 bucks either..

                  durito, you're lucky.. i should make you do the transfers for me.. my avg wait is 6 hrs, and that's with me hounding them every 20 minutes.

                  not once has it went smooth for me making transfers.. but putting money in there is great.. nice and easy.. smooooooooooooooooooth... 13 seconds before it's in my acct..
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                  • durito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-03-06
                    • 13173

                    #10
                    Originally posted by onthewhat
                    durito he is bankrupting other bettors and withdrawing his winnings

                    they would make more money if he made his wagers there rather than phoenix

                    so what? if the numbers are right he will keep playing there, they know it, they don't care. i've transferred 100k out of matchbook in the last year and have never heard i thing out of them. they are as good as neteller for me.

                    transfers happen as soon as both books customer service agree. sometimes it's real fast, sometimes it's less. but, matchbook is far and away the easiest and best place to do transfers in either direction.
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                    • onthewhat
                      Restricted User
                      • 05-14-08
                      • 15411

                      #11
                      nicky where did you bet the NFL game tonight, what book

                      also what is your play?
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                      • durito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-03-06
                        • 13173

                        #12
                        well, that's probably them helping you out then nicky -- in fact i think we are looking at this backwards

                        last transfer out i did, matchbook told me they'd informed 5dimes about the transfer, and i wasnt credited for 2 hours at 5dimes

                        so, actually, i believe its matchbook thats helping us here. they will credit us on incoming transfers right away. it's the other book that has to credit us. the delay should be on the receiving books end. it's not like they are settling up instantly
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                        • Nicky Santoro
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-08-08
                          • 16103

                          #13
                          i'll say this..... if you bet at matchy and you are down in the last month, i will put my mortgage down that your money has gone to me.. i am absolutely enhialating matchy this month. i won't even say how much.. put it this way.. i am like 44-12 there in my last 56 games and i don't bet 30 bucks a game either.

                          however..................

                          other books are really enjoying my action.. i am getting smoked by them all.. i have already made about 6 deposits of big money to betphoenix this past month and i have lost them all each time..

                          richard must loooooooooooooooove me there, so if you boys want to bet at a place with good funds, go see richie and tell him your pal nicky santoro sent you.. i'm sure he'll love that.. lots of nicky santoro money there right now..

                          richie loves me..
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                          • durito
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-03-06
                            • 13173

                            #14
                            phoenix beat the crap out of me this summer too

                            perhaps they do know what they are doing
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                            • Nicky Santoro
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-08-08
                              • 16103

                              #15
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40179

                                #16
                                What is this place Matchbook you speak so lowly of...........are they a new shop on the block?
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                                • Nicky Santoro
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-08-08
                                  • 16103

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by onthewhat
                                  nicky where did you bet the NFL game tonight, what book

                                  also what is your play?
                                  onner, no nfl play today or maybe not one i will play all year, i swear.. those #'s at matchy are shit now with the 1% each way.. i recommend you be careful this year there. there aint' much value there anymore.. it's not that much better than pinny..

                                  all your plays will be -ev.. stay away onner.
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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #18
                                    you aren't hurting my feelings

                                    i don't bet hardly ever at matcbook. sharp lines don't interest me. neither mostly do full game professional sport lines, regardless of how small the vig is

                                    nevertheless, you can't transfer more than 10k a month from wsex these days if you are lucky
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Its not a real type traditional book therefore will never have heavy volume

                                      It is good maybe for 15% of bettors at best
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                                      • Nicky Santoro
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-08-08
                                        • 16103

                                        #20
                                        durito, i hear you.. even i'm getting the runaround of 2500$ per week at wsex. what a joke this place is now.. i got almost all out of there now.. in 1 month, i will be done with wsex for life. i hate this book too..

                                        ok durito, i'll be a nice guy and now tell you how i used to never pay for payouts.. i will make you happy cause i know you've always wanted to know, so pay attention.


                                        i used to call matchy and tell them i demand to not pay the $50 cause i am their best customer of all time and ive been there from the beginning and i am loyal and with the amount of action i have given them, i should NOT pay.

                                        and you know what, they used to always ask upstairs and they'd always say YES to me..

                                        but not anymore now.. so now i pay the $50 fee, but a few more and it's over with wsex anyways. but i didn't pay ever from day 1 for this. i always got reimbursed..

                                        so that's how i got the free payouts.. you happy now durito? i finally told you..
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #21
                                          Matchbook is the absolute NUTS!!!

                                          Many people on this site would not even bother playing offshore if it wasn't for Matchbook.

                                          Many advertisers here at this site should send a thank you letter every week to the CEO's of Matchbook and hope they stay in business for decades to come.
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                                          • durito
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-03-06
                                            • 13173

                                            #22
                                            matchy never charged

                                            it was wsex that started charging, only because they've been hemorrhaging cash apparently. well, perhaps not, i mean cris wants $300 to move money to matchbook and they seem fine

                                            personally, i'd rather spend $50 than waste my time calling a book, but I never call anyone, i hate phones
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                                            • durito
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-03-06
                                              • 13173

                                              #23
                                              if you can beat the professional us sports markets and have been kicked out of every other book in the world, then yes matchbook is your place.

                                              otherwise, meh. matchbook offered probably 3% of the bets i've made this week
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                                              • Nicky Santoro
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-08-08
                                                • 16103

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by durito
                                                matchy never charged



                                                personally, i'd rather spend $50 than waste my time calling a book, but I never call anyone, i hate phones
                                                i'm like you, no one hates the phone more than me.. i have no patience for these clerks...but if you make 60 book to books like me per year, from wsex to matchy...that's 3,000$ in my pocket for 35 seconds a call..

                                                3,000$ is not chump change.. it all adds up, durito.. you know that..
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                                                • durito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                  • 13173

                                                  #25
                                                  i do know that, i don't move money that much for that reason, well actually i quit using wsex, but you should be able to use moneybookers

                                                  at least sometimes
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                                                  • Sawyer
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-01-09
                                                    • 7763

                                                    #26
                                                    if you don't like matchbook,
                                                    then you don't like money..

                                                    why lay -110 when you can lay -101?
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                                                    • Fishhead
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                      • 40179

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Sawyer
                                                      if you don't like matchbook,
                                                      then you don't like money..

                                                      why lay -110 when you can lay -101?

                                                      Nicky is eating to many mushrooms.........or he is not drinking enough.

                                                      At times the kid is hard to figure out.

                                                      FH
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                                                      • Sam Odom
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-30-05
                                                        • 58063

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                        Nicky is eating to many mushrooms.........or he is not drinking enough. At times the kid is hard to figure out. FH
                                                        Nicky is not a gambler! He hates to gamble.
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                                                        • Nicky Santoro
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-08-08
                                                          • 16103

                                                          #29
                                                          fishler, good luck playing into those -ev bets at matchy.. yes it's a good deal, but still a losing proposition.. and yes you can have a game at -102 instead of -110, yet that too is a losing propisition and if you keep playing those games, you will be broke soon, i promise.


                                                          good luck with those 7 cent lines after the 1%.. good luck you will need it fishler..

                                                          fishler, put up 1,000 plays here at sbr from matchy, and i will bet whatever amount you want that you will lose money there after 1,000 games.. i will even give you odds..

                                                          YOU HAVE NO CHANCE..

                                                          fishler, i feel sorry for you.. baseball was the only sport you have a chance at beating there.. (0.6%).. i feel bad for those suckers that play at matchy with those shitty lines.. they will all go broke, i promise.. enjoy those reduced juice games at -ev bets..
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                                                          • Sawyer
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-01-09
                                                            • 7763

                                                            #30
                                                            Nicky, are you sure you calculate %1 comission correct?

                                                            Let's say odds are -200 which is 1,50 in decimal.

                                                            1,50 - 1= 0,50
                                                            0,50 x 0,99 = 0,495
                                                            0,495 + 1 = 1,495

                                                            So after comission, 1,50 becomes 1,495 which is -202.
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                                                            • Nicky Santoro
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-08-08
                                                              • 16103

                                                              #31
                                                              -203

                                                              Originally posted by Sawyer
                                                              Nicky, are you sure you calculate %1 comission correct?

                                                              Let's say odds are -200 which is 1,50 in decimal.

                                                              1,50 - 1= 0,50
                                                              0,50 x 0,99 = 0,495
                                                              0,495 + 1 = 1,495

                                                              So after comission, 1,50 becomes 1,495 which is -202.
                                                              my friend, you are way off..

                                                              -200/+198 =

                                                              -200 = -203
                                                              and

                                                              +198 = +195

                                                              that 2 cent line = now an 8 cent line..

                                                              so enjoy that 8 cent line fishler..

                                                              fishler, you will go broke at matcy, i promise you.
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                                                              • jagaf22
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-22-08
                                                                • 2932

                                                                #32
                                                                FH take the Santoro challenge!
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                                                                • Nicky Santoro
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-08-08
                                                                  • 16103

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jagaf22
                                                                  FH take the Santoro challenge!
                                                                  jags, he will never.. he will lose, i swear.. even fishler knows this.. plus, i don't want fishler's money..plus, i would have given him good odds, too.

                                                                  i guess fishler thought matchy had 1 cent lines, and now realizes those lines aren't as good as he thought.. 8 cent lines..


                                                                  fishler, be careful, you are being scammed here.. the avg bettor has no clue how matchy isn't as good as they think it is after the 1%
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                                                                  • Scorpion
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-04-05
                                                                    • 7797

                                                                    #34
                                                                    FH is a taxi driver
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                                      fishler, good luck playing into those -ev bets at matchy.. yes it's a good deal, but still a losing proposition.. and yes you can have a game at -102 instead of -110, yet that too is a losing propisition and if you keep playing those games, you will be broke soon, i promise.


                                                                      good luck with those 7 cent lines after the 1%.. good luck you will need it fishler..

                                                                      fishler, put up 1,000 plays here at sbr from matchy, and i will bet whatever amount you want that you will lose money there after 1,000 games.. i will even give you odds..

                                                                      YOU HAVE NO CHANCE..

                                                                      fishler, i feel sorry for you.. baseball was the only sport you have a chance at beating there.. (0.6%).. i feel bad for those suckers that play at matchy with those shitty lines.. they will all go broke, i promise.. enjoy those reduced juice games at -ev bets..


                                                                      Nicky knows every angle possible and every edge possible and is a math genius
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