2021 Bowl Contest Picks and Standings

[Easy-Rider 66]

LT my Virginia Tech pick is supposed to be Michigan State. I copied and pasted each one of my picks and have no idea how the numbers didn’t matchup with the team name. Thanks. I’m just seeing this. Gunslinger made me aware earlier.

Remember rotation numbers are KEY, if there is a disconnect between rotation number and team name, ROTATION NUMBER will be official pick.

[LT Profits]

LT my Virginia Tech pick is supposed to be Michigan State. I copied and pasted each one of my picks and have no idea how the numbers didn’t matchup with the team name. Thanks. I’m just seeing this. Gunslinger made me aware earlier.

See Post #11, I said several times that rotation numbers supersedes all.

[seaborneq]

See Post #11, I said several times that rotation numbers supersedes all.

Fair enough. No problem LT.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Buried after day 1

[seaborneq]

Buried after day 1

I try not to make any picks before Christmas day bowl games. Its a crap shoot anyway but the truest outcomes are probably the teams that played the most recently after the season. 1 month or more off is a crapshoot plus you can’t win this contest on the first few games but you can definitely lose it by starting poorly.

[JacketFan81]

Nvm

[playersonly69]

If you are wondering what record you need to have in the 3 unit games to finish high in the money?

Well you really need a 4-1 or 5-0 in your 3 unit plays. Sure you could get lucky and go 3-2 and someone win all of your 2 unit plays as be ok, but you really need 4-1.


There will be more than a few guys who go 5-0 on their 3 unit plays if most of these teams cover. North Carolina, Western Michigan, Army (big pick by many) and Wake Forest (biggest pick of the contest).

So if all of those picks were to lose above then 3-2 would probably be OK for the 3 unit plays, but it will be hard for most of those plays to lose. Those were the real stale lines.


If you want to win the last place booby prize, then you really have to lose all of your 3 units plays

[beavis13]

Hey LT, can players that have A&M now pick a different game since they’ve dropped out of their bowl?

[LT Profits]

Those that had a play on the Texas A&M/Wake Forest game have until Tuesday, December 28th at 12:00 NOON ET to make a REPLACEMENT play. The replacement play would have the same denomination as the cancelled game. If you fail to submit replacement before the deadline, you will receive a push (1/2 credit).

[ArunSh]

Those that had a play on the Texas A&M/Wake Forest game have until Tuesday, December 28th at 12:00 NOON ET to make a REPLACEMENT play. The replacement play would have the same denomination as the cancelled game. If you fail to submit replacement before the deadline, you will receive a push (1/2 credit).

LT: Just my opinion, but wouldn't it be better to make the deadline earlier, feels like people can use this to angle shoot frankly.

I.e. you wait until then to see how your picks have done, and then you decide based on the current standings that you are fine with just taking a tie and don't pick a replacement, whereas if you really need the win, you do pick a replacement.

Not a huge deal, but certainly seems like folks who have that option have a real advantage over those who have had their picks totally locked in from the start. Being able to make one of your picks (granted a replacement pick) so late in the contest + the option to just leave it as a tie if it's in your interest feels a bit unfair.

[LT Profits]

LT: Just my opinion, but wouldn't it be better to make the deadline earlier, feels like people can use this to angle shoot frankly.

I.e. you wait until then to see how your picks have done, and then you decide based on the current standings that you are fine with just taking a tie and don't pick a replacement, whereas if you really need the win, you do pick a replacement.

Not a huge deal, but certainly seems like folks who have that option have a real advantage over those who have had their picks totally locked in from the start. Being able to make one of your picks (granted a replacement pick) so late in the contest + the option to just leave it as a tie if it's in your interest feels a bit unfair.

Well, it would normally be 2-3 days from now, but we gave holiday allowance. Had it been any other holiday besides Christmas, deadline probably would have been Saturday.

[boscokid]

bosco replacement for cancelled WF game

233

Western Michigan

-3.5

*

[daneblazer]

Mizzou dropped the hammer

[OVAKUL]

LT: Just my opinion, but wouldn't it be better to make the deadline earlier, feels like people can use this to angle shoot frankly.

I.e. you wait until then to see how your picks have done, and then you decide based on the current standings that you are fine with just taking a tie and don't pick a replacement, whereas if you really need the win, you do pick a replacement.

Not a huge deal, but certainly seems like folks who have that option have a real advantage over those who have had their picks totally locked in from the start. Being able to make one of your picks (granted a replacement pick) so late in the contest + the option to just leave it as a tie if it's in your interest feels a bit unfair.

I'm guessing you don't have a pick on that game, and thus, the choice.

[ArunSh]

I'm guessing you don't have a pick on that game, and thus, the choice.

Actually I do, and I already made my replacement pick. I could have waited to see more results to have a better idea if I should just take a tie, but I didn't because I thought it was the fair thing to do - fair to those who don't have a selection on the game and thereby made their picks without any knowledge of what the standings would be like at the time.

And yes, for that same reason I think it would be fairer for other folks who have that game to either pick now or declare now they are taking a tie, not wait for more results to see what might be more advantageous to them.

[OVAKUL]

Actually I do, and I already made my replacement pick. I could have waited to see more results to have a better idea if I should just take a tie, but I didn't because I thought it was the fair thing to do - fair to those who don't have a selection on the game and thereby made their picks without any knowledge of what the standings would be like at the time.

And yes, for that same reason I think it would be fairer for other folks who have that game to either pick now or declare now they are taking a tie, not wait for more results to see what might be more advantageous to them.

It can be a lengthy discussion. I believe gambling shouldn't be regulated too much - and rules of a contest like this should never be changed mid-way. Roll with the punches, that's the beauty of this hobby we call gambling. Secondly, I would never do what's 'fair to others' in any competitive setting - only what's allowed under the rules. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing my best to win.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

This could get very interesting with canceled games

[LT Profits]

This could get very interesting with canceled games

And I raised minimum games required for contest not to be cancelled to 35 this year, thinking it would not be a big deal. We should still be good, would take 8 cancellations to cancel contest, doubt it gets there.

[daneblazer]

And I raised minimum games required for contest not to be cancelled to 35 this year, thinking it would not be a big deal. We should still be good, would take 8 cancellations to cancel contest, doubt it gets there.

What happens if they find a replacement for A&M and they play the Gator Bowl? Is it off the board?

[ArunSh]

It can be a lengthy discussion. I believe gambling shouldn't be regulated too much - and rules of a contest like this should never be changed mid-way. Roll with the punches, that's the beauty of this hobby we call gambling. Secondly, I would never do what's 'fair to others' in any competitive setting - only what's allowed under the rules. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing my best to win.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I too would generally agree with "do whatever you can within the rules to win". However, I think in contests that it should be a "level playing field" for all who enter.

Those who got a game cancelled and have to repick could without question have a bit of an edge over those who didn't - unavoidable of course, games being cancelled was not foreseeable, and they set what I think is a fair rule for how those would be handled.

But again those (like myself) who unavoidably got put in this position should (imo) try their best to maintain a level playing field for all involved, not use this unexpected occurrence to milk as a big of an extra edge on those who don't have that opportunity - again in any contest when you enter, it's reasonable to expect that it should be as close as possible to a level playing field for all involved.

[5mike5]

LT u want us to post the replacement picks in this thread whenever we decide the play?

I see now that several others already been posting picks in the other thread...

[milwaukee mike]

What happens if they find a replacement for A&M and they play the Gator Bowl? Is it off the board?

i'm also wondering this... can we still bet?

right now it's

rutgers +12
wake -12

[LT Profits]

LT u want us to post the replacement picks in this thread whenever we decide the play?

I see now that several others already been posting picks in the other thread...

Yes in this thread since this is now the active one.

[LT Profits]

i'm also wondering this... can we still bet?

right now it's

rutgers +12
wake -12

No, only the games in the original thread are available.

[LT Profits]

What happens if they find a replacement for A&M and they play the Gator Bowl? Is it off the board?

Correct off the board. And side irrelevant note, is Rutgers/Wake still the Gator Bowl? Looks like the are playing day before originally scheduled A&M game.

[LT Profits]

OK looks like Don Best is listing wrong date of Dec. 30th. It still the 31st and still the Gator Bowl. But off the board for contest purposes.

[adamelvis]

I would like to change my 2* A&M pick on my solo entry to:

233 Western Michigan -3.5

Thanks

[LT Profits]

OK Replacement picks for Texas A&M game can be submitted EITHER in this thread or in the original Lines and Picks thread,

[Easy-Rider 66]

Looks like Hawaii has cancelled game for tomorrow. Just a heads up.

[CarolinaDaze]

Carolina Daze(Solo Team)

Replacement Pick for Texas A&M game:

234 Nevada +3.5

[Jayvegas420]

Replacing Memphis with
234 Nevada +3.5

[LT Profits]

Same deadline to replace Memphis/Hawaii, Tuesday at 12 Noon ET. If someone has both games with different * and has not yet replaced Texas A&M game, please indicate which team is replacing which game. You may submit replacement plays in either thread.

[boscokid]

Same deadline to replace Memphis/Hawaii, Tuesday at 12 Noon ET. If someone has both games with different * and has not yet replaced Texas A&M game, please indicate which team is replacing which game. You may submit replacement plays in either thread.

LT - You should probably post the official stance on grading the 3 CFP games if they result in a forfeit. Win? Loss? Push? No action?

bosco already losing hope and may need the entire contest cancelled to see any points back

[frankzig]

265 cancelled replace with 280

[stevenash]

LT?

I can't get a pm to you, is there any way you can apply my winnings last week to pro status renewal.
Cash is not a problem here.