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  • d2bets
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    #1086
    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
    It was not JB Bickerstaff's best night. Why the hell would you not play your bench more, especially after a back to back. Rondo had an incredible game the night before and you don't play him at all? Lamar Stevens is from Philadelphia and you don't play him???

    Jarrett Allen is not good defending his own man. He is great at help defense in the paint but can't stay with his own man. Plus he's really soft. Any strong big man can bully him in the paint. He had 5 rebounds last night. That's fukking ridiculous. The Cavs really need another big strong enough to not get bullied in the paint because him, Mobley and Markannen are all tall but light weight. Jokic, Towns, Gobert, Bam, Vucevic, Ayton, Nurkic all will give Allen problems. Hell, Christian Woods shitted on him a few weeks ago. Allen needs to drink more milk and get in the fukking weight room.

    Embiid is a beast no doubt but he's been shut down by great defenders. I remember Horford and Robert Williams of the Celtics playing tough defense on him. They are both very strong and could keep Embiid out of the paint. I think Harden is going to be a huge asset to the 76ers because he's another guy that can get his own shot.
    Yeah, I mean Harden should help, but I just wonder if Embiid will adjust. Probably, but we'll see.

    Cavs and Bulls are both nice try-hard teams, but Embiid and Giannis and Durant are just such big problems that neither really has a good answer for.
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    • Mac4Lyfe
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      #1087
      Originally posted by d2bets
      Yeah, I mean Harden should help, but I just wonder if Embiid will adjust. Probably, but we'll see.
      Cavs and Bulls are both nice try-hard teams, but Embiid and Giannis and Durant are just such big problems that neither really has a good answer for.
      All 3 get superstar calls which is huge in the playoffs too.

      Vucevic is much heavier and stronger than Jarret Allen. He can bang with Embiid better than Allen. The Bulls will be okay because you have Derozan and Zach who are superstars and Ball who is right there. The East is going to be a bitch to come out. The top 8 teams really are very similar and any of those teams could beat the other teams. Total coin flip.
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      • IBetYou
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        • 07-03-15
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        #1088
        Good call. I also thought they'd be a hot team on the season... because of J.Allen at centre and the addition of pg maestro Rubio. I bet them the first two games ATS and they lost, then quit on them. Of course they were red penetrating hot after that.

        imo the rookie Mobley is the main reason for their success. Fantastic player. Like Garnett without the attitude.
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        • d2bets
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          #1089
          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
          All 3 get superstar calls which is huge in the playoffs too.

          Vucevic is much heavier and stronger than Jarret Allen. He can bang with Embiid better than Allen. The Bulls will be okay because you have Derozan and Zach who are superstars and Ball who is right there. The East is going to be a bitch to come out. The top 8 teams really are very similar and any of those teams could beat the other teams. Total coin flip.
          Only way Bulls have a chance is if Zach, Caruso, Ball and Patrick Williams are all healthy for the playoffs. Adding those last 3 is a lot of defense. We haven't really seen this current team with Williams in the mix. They don't need offense from him, which he doesn't have, but he is a defender with size that they need desperately. And of course Caurso changes the dynamic of the team. Hard to say if it's enough because we haven't seen it yet, and odds are they won't all be healthy.

          Agree though that East is wide open. Even the Raptors are coming on really strong. I'll call BS on Boston and Charlotte though.
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          • IBetYou
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            #1090
            Originally posted by d2bets
            Only way Bulls have a chance is if Zach, Caruso, Ball and Patrick Williams are all healthy for the playoffs. Adding those last 3 is a lot of defense. We haven't really seen this current team with Williams in the mix. They don't need offense from him, which he doesn't have, but he is a defender with size that they need desperately. And of course Caurso changes the dynamic of the team. Hard to say if it's enough because we haven't seen it yet, and odds are they won't all be healthy.

            Agree though that East is wide open. Even the Raptors are coming on really strong. I'll call BS on Boston and Charlotte though.
            A team is only as good as their best player. Derozan can be shut down. George has done it, Craig has done it. He's not that special.
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            • IBetYou
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              #1091
              It's funny that the guy that defends Embiid & Jokic - the two best players in the NBA imo - better than anyone, is currently playing in the Spanish 2nd division. You'd think a team like the Bucks or Lakers would be interested.
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              • d2bets
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                #1092
                Originally posted by IBetYou
                A team is only as good as their best player. Derozan can be shut down. George has done it, Craig has done it. He's not that special.
                When healthy, the Bulls best player is Zach Lavine. DeRozan never had a player like Zach Lavine alongside him. Totally different dynamic. And DeRozan now is better than DeRozan then. Bulls need 100% health to have a shot though.
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                • IBetYou
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                  #1093
                  Originally posted by d2bets
                  When healthy, the Bulls best player is Zach Lavine. DeRozan never had a player like Zach Lavine alongside him. Totally different dynamic. And DeRozan now is better than DeRozan then. Bulls need 100% health to have a shot though.
                  Interesting take. I don't agree with it. LaVine is a v.poor iso' player. Great shooter but no court vision and no poise. Makes terrible decisions in the clutch.
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                  • IBetYou
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                    #1094
                    It's plausible that DeRozan is better than ever... A late bloomer. I do think he's the type that struggles in a playoff series vs a stout defender. Even K.Bryant was that way, only he had guys like Shaq & Gasol to bail him out whenever he met someone like Bowen or Battier.
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                    • shadymcgrady
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                      #1095
                      It's unfair to assess blame on Allen in guarding embiid. Most bigs have slow eye hand coordination if they have any at all in terms of reaction time to an offensive players moves. Embiid is a premier big and MVP candidate every yr, there is no way Allen has a chance to guard him.

                      Don't worry Mac, this was a litmus test and I'm sure alot of NBA fans were betting cle in that spot thinking the sixers are depleted after the trade and fatigued. Classic regular snare for books, things would be different if this was a must win or the playoffs for the Cavs. Two of the three refs were big favorites for Philly at home in that spot as well
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                      • ChuckyTheGoat
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                        #1096
                        One play for Tues:

                        *Cavs -1 (-115). 345 to win 300.
                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                          #1097
                          Props to Blazers. Working on 3rd straight Dog win...with a short 8-man rotation.
                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                          • d2bets
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                            #1098
                            Originally posted by IBetYou
                            It's plausible that DeRozan is better than ever... A late bloomer. I do think he's the type that struggles in a playoff series vs a stout defender. Even K.Bryant was that way, only he had guys like Shaq & Gasol to bail him out whenever he met someone like Bowen or Battier.
                            DeRozan on an unprecedented heater right now. Nobody has really ever done what he's done recently.
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                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                              #1099
                              Originally posted by IBetYou
                              A team is only as good as their best player. Derozan can be shut down. George has done it, Craig has done it. He's not that special.
                              Man, Derozan is a beast this year. No one can shut him down. He makes so many high level of difficulty shots. He is unreal. This is not the old Derozan. He is incredible and is going to be a terror in the playoffs.
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
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                                #1100
                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                DeRozan on an unprecedented heater right now. Nobody has really ever done what he's done recently.
                                I'm watching Derozan every night and he is amazing. I cannot believe how good he is. I'm not sure why he's not considered MVP because he has single handedly won a bunch of games for the Bulls. Good Lord he's good.
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                  #1101
                                  Originally posted by IBetYou
                                  It's funny that the guy that defends Embiid & Jokic - the two best players in the NBA imo - better than anyone, is currently playing in the Spanish 2nd division. You'd think a team like the Bucks or Lakers would be interested.
                                  Who?
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                                  • d2bets
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                                    #1102
                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                    Man, Derozan is a beast this year. No one can shut him down. He makes so many high level of difficulty shots. He is unreal. This is not the old Derozan. He is incredible and is going to be a terror in the playoffs.
                                    The shooting percentage is what amazes. Volume scoring wings should not be able to score 35-40 shooting 60% game after game. Makes no sense.
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                      #1103
                                      Derozan with a 40 burger, scored 19 points in the 4th quarter. This is his 6th straight 35 point game. Jordan had 7 and an 8 game consecutive streak. Derozan is a baaaad man.
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                                      • d2bets
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                                        #1104
                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                        Derozan with a 40 burger, scored 19 points in the 4th quarter. This is his 6th straight 35 point game. Jordan had 7 and an 8 game consecutive streak. Derozan is a baaaad man.
                                        But even MJ never did it shooting 50%+ each game. Only Wilt has done it. And he never got to 7. Unreal.
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                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                          #1105
                                          ATL: John Collins OUT. Think that's significant.
                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                          • IBetYou
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                                            #1106
                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                            But even MJ never did it shooting 50%+ each game. Only Wilt has done it. And he never got to 7. Unreal.
                                            Are you mad? You can't compare generations like that. Jordan would have averaged 40 in today's league.

                                            Yesterday you say LaVine was their best player, now DeRozan the MVP... what a difference a day makes.
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                                            • JIBBBY
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                                              #1107
                                              We on the Cavs tonight? I think we have a go play here!! John Collins is out from what I'm reading.

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                                              • shadymcgrady
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                                                #1108
                                                Collins out again tonight, looks like a bunch of shooters out there. Rebound totals for capella, Allen and mobley look like an angle
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                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                  #1109
                                                  Adding: Cavs +1. 550/500.

                                                  Good Luck.
                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                    #1110
                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                    We on the Cavs tonight? I think we have a go play here!! John Collins is out from what I'm reading.https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/clevela...ks-2022021501/
                                                    I'm locked and loaded on Cavs game +1 and 1st half -1/2. I'm thinking about the trifecta with the 1st quarter but the Cavs have been horseshit in the 1st quarter of late. I'm thinking JB has to have them focused on coming out strong, which is why I'm debating it.
                                                    Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                                                    Collins out again tonight, looks like a bunch of shooters out there. Rebound totals for capella, Allen and mobley look like an angle
                                                    I like the Over for Garland scoring. I think it's 19.5. Trae is a poor defender. Garland should eat.
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                                                    • shadymcgrady
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                                                      #1111
                                                      Capela 12.5

                                                      Allen 10.5

                                                      Mobley 8.5

                                                      Going with the overs on the rebounds each and every combination in parlays for all. Hoping for brick city tonight
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                                                      • comet52
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                                                        #1112
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        We on the Cavs tonight? I think we have a go play here!! John Collins is out from what I'm reading.

                                                        https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/clevela...ks-2022021501/
                                                        Weird that line has moved 4 points in the other direction - from Cavs -1.5 to Hawks -2.5
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                                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                          #1113
                                                          Cavs 1h +1.5 (-112). 560/500.

                                                          Heavy action. Good Luck.
                                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                          • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                            #1114
                                                            Originally posted by comet52
                                                            Weird that line has moved 4 points in the other direction - from Cavs -1.5 to Hawks -2.5
                                                            What happened?
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                                                            • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                              #1115
                                                              Man, I suck. Line move doesn't make any sense:

                                                              *I have a good chunk on Cavs here.

                                                              Don't be like me. But I'm not betting over my head. Just taking a flyer here.
                                                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                #1116
                                                                FYI: Bucks have two key guys out tonite, Hill and Connaughton.

                                                                Both having very good years. Hill has been solid, and Connaughton has a very good eFG%.
                                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  #1117
                                                                  Tight after a quarter of play.. Let's go Cavs do this!!

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                                                                  • Wrongside
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                                                                    #1118
                                                                    Dang. There goes any chance of winning the division…
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                                                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                      #1119
                                                                      Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                                      It's funny that the guy that defends Embiid & Jokic - the two best players in the NBA imo - better than anyone, is currently playing in the Spanish 2nd division. You'd think a team like the Bucks or Lakers would be interested.

                                                                      Who is that? Pardon my ignorance.
                                                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                      • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                        #1120
                                                                        Young w/ a big game. Props, Hawks. Bad play by me.
                                                                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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