Raider's Gruden Soon To Be Cancelled

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  • DwightShrute
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    • 01-17-09
    • 103380

    #316
    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
    What's so sad is that you just admitted to saying stupid racist shit (I am assuming it's racist, homophobic, etc.) and actually emailing said stupid shit? WTF?

    No one cancelled Gruden. He was just found out....
    First of all, he was cancelled. How can you say that with a straight face? Is he still the coach? There's your answer.

    You don't have any proof that "he was just found out". That's only an opinion of yours and your opinion track record is about as solid as the Colt's defense in the 4th quarter.
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    • Snowball
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      • 11-15-09
      • 30058

      #317
      Another owner would have stood by him and taken the heat. If you say no, it was the NFL, then the NFL is too cowardly
      to make a statement, because I don't think the NFL has that power legally.

      Mark Davis was a failed owner who inherited the team from his Dad. He was broke and never cared one iota about Oakland, now he's just a priveleged slob and team is really owned by his lenders who did everything, those lenders decided this because Mark Davis is either a chicken or has no balls.
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      • pablo222
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-03-19
        • 8858

        #318
        Fukk him.
        He quit
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        • lakerboy
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-02-09
          • 94379

          #319
          Originally posted by Snowball
          Another owner would have stood by him and taken the heat. If you say no, it was the NFL, then the NFL is too cowardly
          to make a statement, because I don't think the NFL has that power legally.

          Mark Davis was a failed owner who inherited the team from his Dad. He was broke and never cared one iota about Oakland, now he's just a priveleged slob and team is really owned by his lenders who did everything, those lenders decided this because Mark Davis is either a chicken or has no balls.
          Are you joking? Davis took too long. The NFL gave him all the emails and he took days. He was trying to not do this.
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          • Snowball
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            • 11-15-09
            • 30058

            #320
            Originally posted by lakerboy
            Are you joking? Davis took too long. The NFL gave him all the emails and he took days. He was trying to not do this.

            "trying" ? you have no evidence of that. Tell me who has the legal right to force the contractual owner to fire his coach in America.

            TELL ME.
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #321
              Originally posted by Snowball
              "trying" ? you have no evidence of that. Tell me who has the legal right to force the contractual owner to fire his coach in America.

              TELL ME.
              Go back to your post. Tell me which other owner would have taken the heat? That's my issue with your statement. You are making an assumption.

              As for Davis this damn right he tried not to do anything hoping it would go away until the nfl started leaking more. Then he forced John to resign because he had no other options.
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              • Snowball
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                • 11-15-09
                • 30058

                #322
                Originally posted by lakerboy
                Go back to your post. Tell me which other owner would have taken the heat? That's my issue with your statement. You are making an assumption.

                As for Davis this damn right he tried not to do anything hoping it would go away until the nfl started leaking more. Then he forced John to resign because he had no other options.
                You're assuming Davis "had no other options". Unless I see unambiguous legal requirement that strips a coach of his First Amendment rights, I'll side with the right of the owner to keep his employee.
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                • vitterd
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                  • 09-14-17
                  • 58460

                  #323
                  You can’t have your coach sending racist, homophobic, sexist emails. Of course he had to go. It would be the same for any coach at any level. But hey, you righties have a new hero now. So there ya go.
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                  • lakerboy
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                    • 04-02-09
                    • 94379

                    #324
                    Originally posted by Snowball
                    You're assuming Davis "had no other options". Unless I see unambiguous legal requirement that strips a coach of his First Amendment rights, I'll side with the right of the owner to keep his employee.
                    The NFL forced his hand. So he really did have no other options so to speak.

                    My issue was your Statement on other owners. You are from Boston. I guarantee you kraft would have acted quicker.
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                    • DwightShrute
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-17-09
                      • 103380

                      #325
                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                      The NFL forced his hand. So he really did have no other options so to speak.

                      My issue was your Statement on other owners. You are from Boston. I guarantee you kraft would have acted quicker.
                      Probably. KC also. Remember Hunt and what he did. Was it that big a deal to lose a star RB? No history of violence and none since. Sure it was dumb but release him for this?


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                      • Snowball
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                        • 11-15-09
                        • 30058

                        #326
                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                        The NFL forced his hand. So he really did have no other options so to speak.

                        My issue was your Statement on other owners. You are from Boston. I guarantee you kraft would have acted quicker.
                        LOL. Kraft is so powerful and tight with Goodell that they would have never even gone into his e-mails to begin with.

                        This is all a scam. Gruden said nasty things about Goodell which is probably the real reason to begin with. This is America.
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                        • lakerboy
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-02-09
                          • 94379

                          #327
                          Originally posted by Snowball
                          LOL. Kraft is so powerful and tight with Goodell that they would have never even gone into his e-mails to begin with.

                          This is all a scam. Gruden said nasty things about Goodell which is probably the real reason to begin with. This is America.
                          Lmao so tight right. That's why Goodell suspended Kraft's qb for 4 games. Give it up snowy.
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                          • homie1975
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-24-13
                            • 15452

                            #328
                            Good is winning over Bad. Gruden is something I honestly did not think he was - a hateful WASP.

                            These ppl think they own this country. They don't.
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                            • mjsuax13
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                              • 03-14-15
                              • 25115

                              #329
                              Do they plan to cancel the Super Bowl halftime show now?
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                              • Snowball
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                                • 11-15-09
                                • 30058

                                #330
                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                Lmao so tight right. That's why Goodell suspended Kraft's qb for 4 games. Give it up snowy.
                                Slap on the wrist means nothing. Belichick is the biggest cheat ever to coach football. It was Belichick who ordered the deflation of the football to stop fumbles. Brady took the fall which is still only slap on the wrist. All the truth about Spygate was never revealed and the NFL stuffed the tapes away in some dusty old closet never to be seen. They ruined Mangini as an example. Belichick messes with frequencies and bugs visitor locker room conversations. How much is still happening now? who knows ?

                                Gruden still had a job until he called Goodell names. If it were Belichick this never would have been revealed in the first place. Gruden is not part of the club. Mark Davis is a puppet who got lucky and only cares about himself.
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65625

                                  #331
                                  BLM is not going to like the interim head coach decision.
                                  Oh no they are not.
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                                  • homie1975
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-24-13
                                    • 15452

                                    #332
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    BLM is not going to like the interim head coach decision.
                                    Oh no they are not.
                                    no one cares about interim head coaches.

                                    when the time comes to hiring a permanent one, eric bieniemy and byron leftwich will be given very serious consideration.
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                                    • firedawg
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                                      • 10-08-08
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                                      #333
                                      Originally posted by homie1975
                                      no one cares about interim head coaches.

                                      when the time comes to hiring a permanent one, eric bieniemy and byron leftwich will be given very serious consideration.
                                      because they are black?
                                      or ?
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                                      • DwightShrute
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-17-09
                                        • 103380

                                        #334
                                        Originally posted by firedawg
                                        because they are black?
                                        or ?
                                        they almost have to be don't they? Gay, Black, voted for Biden and a huge BLM supporter. Being friends with Kaepernick would be huge as well.

                                        LOL
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                                        • lakerboy
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                                          • 04-02-09
                                          • 94379

                                          #335
                                          Originally posted by homie1975
                                          no one cares about interim head coaches.

                                          when the time comes to hiring a permanent one, eric bieniemy and byron leftwich will be given very serious consideration.
                                          Bienemy is an idiot. There is a good reason he doesn't have a job yet to be a head coach. Reid is mind behind that offense.

                                          Leftwich not much better either. He has arguably the most talent one offense of any team in the nfl.

                                          Will they get a shot? Sure because the nfl will put pressure on the Raiders.
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65625

                                            #336
                                            Originally posted by firedawg
                                            because they are black?
                                            or ?
                                            All the black special interest groups will be breathing down Davis's neck.
                                            That's a given.
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                                            • carolinakid
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-12-11
                                              • 19106

                                              #337
                                              i did my part for blm, i walk down blm boulevard to the white house a few weeks back......
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                                              • Cougar Bait
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-04-07
                                                • 18282

                                                #338
                                                We need BEANTOWNJIM to weigh in on this matter
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65625

                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                                                  We need BEANTOWNJIM to weigh in on this matter
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                                                  • Hman
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-04-17
                                                    • 21429

                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                    You ever seen Blacks, Hispanics, Asians calling people stupid shit in email? If Tomlin did send bullshit emails, his ass should be canned as well. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but why is it always stupid white people calling other people names and actually texting it? Just shut up already Gruden. Don't hit send dumb ass. I was in his corner from the one email that was not racist but their must be a lot more.


                                                    Don't include Asians, Indians, and even Hispanics in that race-baiting crap with so many black ppl thee days because they don't want any part of the nonsense..

                                                    ESPECIALLY Asians & Indians who will never choose that side
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                                                    • mjsuax13
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 03-14-15
                                                      • 25115

                                                      #341
                                                      So, is everyone cool with Dr Dre, Eminem, Snoop, etc… for the halftime show? They have enough misogyny, racial and homophobic slurs on tape to loop for 24 hours.
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                                                      • carolinakid
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                                                        • 01-12-11
                                                        • 19106

                                                        #342
                                                        ^^^^^^ yes i laugh when i heard this, i know one person will not watch any of that crap
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                                                        • thetrinity
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-25-11
                                                          • 22430

                                                          #343
                                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                          Bienemy is an idiot. There is a good reason he doesn't have a job yet to be a head coach. Reid is mind behind that offense.

                                                          Leftwich not much better either. He has arguably the most talent one offense of any team in the nfl.

                                                          Will they get a shot? Sure because the nfl will put pressure on the Raiders.
                                                          Right, these guys have easy jobs and everyone knows it. Have great offensive minds as HC in both spots and have a ton of weapons at their disposal.
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65625

                                                            #344
                                                            Originally posted by carolinakid
                                                            ^^^^^^ yes i laugh when i heard this, i know two people who will not watch any of that crap
                                                            Fixed your post
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                                                            • thomorino
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 06-01-17
                                                              • 45842

                                                              #345
                                                              Many on the left think only white men can be racist, they think its okay for everyone else to be racist- no a single left wing leader has an issue with Harvard having quotas for asians.
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #346
                                                                Gruden career over everywhere
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                                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                                  • 48383

                                                                  #347
                                                                  Originally posted by Hman
                                                                  Don't include Asians, Indians, and even Hispanics in that race-baiting crap with so many black ppl thee days because they don't want any part of the nonsense..
                                                                  ESPECIALLY Asians & Indians who will never choose that side
                                                                  You are missing my point... Why do people feel it necessary to degrade, LGBT, women, other ethnicities with racist emails? I can give you a list of dumb people who just couldn't help themselves. Marge Schott, Donald Sterling, Rachel Nichols, Roseann Barr, Danny Ferry, Riley Cooper, Stan Richards, Greg Glassman sports announcers, radio host to name a few. All are not white either, ask Nick Cannon.

                                                                  There is no side to choose. If you are dumb enough to send stupid emails or text then you are basically cancelling yourself. I dare you to send emails to your coworkers with sexist, racist, bigoted images. Why not send your boss a bunch of porn bombs, better yet send underage kids having sex and see how long before the feds show up on your doorstep. Why blame Roger Goodell, the NFL or the Raiders for Gruden being a dumb ass. He didn't get cancelled, he got fired for being an idiot.
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                                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                                    • 48383

                                                                    #348
                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                    First of all, he was cancelled. How can you say that with a straight face? Is he still the coach? There's your answer.
                                                                    You don't have any proof that "he was just found out". That's only an opinion of yours and your opinion track record is about as solid as the Colt's defense in the 4th quarter.
                                                                    DuhWhite - we've only heard a few of the emails that Gruden sent. They have THOUSANDS. He totally fukked himself. We all thought it was one email 10 years ago. They have dirt on him from 2019. This all came about because the NFL has been investigating the Redskins (WFT). Gruden's dumb ass was exchanging emails with a bunch of folks in the organization. Game over man.


                                                                    Story includes detail that Gruden, former WFT exec Bruce Allen and other men exchanged emails with photos of topless women, including one that included team cheerleaders.
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                                                                    • carolinakid
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                                                                      • 01-12-11
                                                                      • 19106

                                                                      #349
                                                                      screw the nfl and it cult group
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                                                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                                        • 48383

                                                                        #350
                                                                        It's just a matter of time that the WFT organization is blown up. Forcing cheerleaders to strip then send the photos to guys like Gruden. Some people might go to jail over this.
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