New Terms for Onthewhat vs. Vegas Dave

Fishhead · 08-25-09, 09:49 AM

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 09:53 AM

Well, it isn't really my move. Until you fill in the blank on this "reasonable stipulation" there isn't much I can do. Everything else looks fine.

As I already said in the other thread...

"This is a declarative statement: "I will leave SBR if Vegas Dave has a profitable NFL season". You don't add stipulations to a declarative statement. You do what you declare. I'm not going to agree to any of your stipulations because I literally have no belief whatsoever that you will actually hold up your end of the deal.

If you want something in return (other than the load of money you will be making fading me), just go ahead and admit you won't be leaving the forum now. I'm not staking my word which I actually value against yours (I'll be at the bash, I'm out SBR, etc)."

Deuce · 08-25-09, 10:00 AM

I bet this is what Santoro is feeding him.

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:00 AM

Nicky come up with a stipulation

Vegas Dave doing something on video sounds good. Any ideas?

Dave, don't be a pussy. These are the new terms, 50 plays is much more fair than 32...

Nicky Santoro · 08-25-09, 10:02 AM

still.. 50 games is a joke. it won't prove anything.. to small a sample size.. anyone can win over 50 games.. even a square like VD can win over 50 games.. you need to raise it to at least 100 games.. it's not much, but a bit better.

and onner, what do you get out of it if he loses over 50 games? if you want to make it 50 games, fine.. but he has to give you something if he loses.. not fair just you.. if he agrees to give you something, then go for it.. if not, why make this bet?

he has to at least make a vid saying he's a big loser and no way he can ever show a profit in sports gambling.. and now you've got a bet..

but he has to lose something too, not just you.. or it should be off..

i don't think he will cause he dont bet real $$, so why would he risk something with you.. he's a wuss.

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:03 AM

Dave that declaration is true

If you are profitable over 50+ plays i'm gone

I want you to have to do something when you lose though. Is that too much to ask?

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 10:03 AM

I'm fine with 50... and you can't call me a pussy until you actually lay out the stipulation. If it is something reasonable, I'll do it, even though I know you are freerolling on me.

Nicky is probably going to tell you that 50 plays isn't enough either...

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 10:04 AM

Haha while I was typing Nicky already came in and said it.

Like I said, name it man, what do you have in mind?

jellobiafra · 08-25-09, 10:07 AM

Why should Dave offer anything? Because Nicky called him a wuss? LOL.

OTW, you are the one trolling with this shit and saying you will leave if Dave has a winning season. Everyone here ....EVERYONE...knows you are full of shit and you would never leave the forum regardless of what Dave does this football season. It's a bullshit "bet" made by a bullshit poster. You are quickly becoming nothing more than a troll on this site. You have Nicky, Fishy, and Gold that will engage you in civil conversation for whatever reason (I think they feel sorry for you personally)....everyone else is just sick of your shit.

So go away, don't go away....say you will go away and then don't do it.... whatever. Nobody cares or believes you either way.

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:08 AM

Nicky's stipulation is good.

Video saying you suck, you're a big loser, you will never win, etc. Also how me and nicky are always right.

50 plays is fine...nicky he cant beat nfl in 50 plays...lol be serious nicky

50 plays min...no max

jellobiafra · 08-25-09, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by onthewhat

Also how me and nicky are always right.

So transparently desperate to be included with Nicky.

raydog · 08-25-09, 10:11 AM

how bout this....if onner loses, the little redneck gets permanently banned. that way you dont have to worry about him going back on his word, like you know he is going to do. if dave loses, onner gets all of daves accumulated sbr points. give dave the same pts. system as members during football season. (max of 5000 pts or something)

imthetwats constant bashing of dave and other mods is a fukking disgrace to the board. his word is as good as dog shit, so dave should be given the power to ban him if he wins the contest. simple as that

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by onthewhat

Nicky's stipulation is good.

Video saying you suck, you're a big loser, you will never win, etc. Also how me and nicky are always right.

50 plays is fine...nicky he cant beat nfl in 50 plays...lol be serious nicky

50 plays min...no max

Alright, deal.

If I make 50+ plays and don't come out +units, I make a video (at least 2 minutes long) saying you and Nicky were absolutely right, I suck, I'm a loser, and always will be.

I make 50+ plays and do come out +units, you leave.

Is this thing a go?

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:15 AM

Yes Dave

Video has to be serious too

Nicky Santoro · 08-25-09, 10:17 AM

sbr will never ban onner. they love his action here. he brings hits to sbr.. he is the most controversial poster now at sbr.. just look at his betphoenix thread, it has brought 342 new customers there and had 10,000 hits.. he makes vids, he posts a lot and brings posters in.. no way sbr bans him. he is great for the site..

but i will say this.. sorry onner, i have to say this... NO WAY will onner ever ever ever leave this site, even if dave ends up hitting 64%.. this is onner's home, his life, his family, his everything.. where else is he going to post his SUN night MLB game of the week pick that people will actually listen to him..

onner gets a lot of attention here...onner's life is sbr.. so maybe make another bet..

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:23 AM

I am gone if Dave wins

If Dave hits 64% I will make a goodbye video like the video Dave has to make when he loses...

Deuce · 08-25-09, 10:23 AM

I want lifetime ISP ban. Not just handle, gone forever.

themajormt · 08-25-09, 10:26 AM

Onner I think if Dave hits 60% you need to make a goodbye video... Touts dont even hit 64%...

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

but i will say this.. sorry onner, i have to say this... NO WAY will onner ever ever ever leave this site, even if dave ends up hitting 64%.. this is onner's home, his life, his family, his everything.. where else is he going to post his SUN night MLB game of the week pick that people will actually listen to him..

onner gets a lot of attention here...onner's life is sbr.. so maybe make another bet..

So if you feel this way too than why are you calling me names for not wanting to agree to any deals?

The only thing he can lose here is a bit of respect; claiming he'd leave and then stiffing me on it. But since he doesn't really care about that, he really doesn't have anything to lose at all from agreeing to leave and then staying.

Nicky Santoro · 08-25-09, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by onthewhat

I am gone if Dave wins

If Dave hits 64% I will make a goodbye video like the video Dave has to make when he loses...

come on onner, it's me... it's me.. nicky.. come on onner, who are you kidding here? onner, you have nowhere to go after..onner, how about this...

IF he hits 50% or more, you leave for 3 months..i think that's fair.. i just know you won't leave forever, and you know this too..

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:28 AM

Dave I will give you my word on this

jellobiafra · 08-25-09, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

come on onner, it's me... it's me.. nicky.. come on onner, who are you kidding here?

Nicky Santoro · 08-25-09, 10:32 AM

ok its settled.. bet is on.

Onner gave his word..

good job, onner..

i still say its not fair at all.. dave loses, he makes a 2 min vid with his famous smirk saying.. ok ok onner and nicky, i am a loser (all this with a big sarcastic smile) laughing at onner..

and if onner loses, he never posts again.. what a joke. dave has the best of it.. he is laughing at onner.. onner is risking everything and dave gets to make a funny vid with his big smirk if he hits 37%.

what a joke..

onner, the equivalence of this is like you laying -1800 on a moneyline bet, when the real line is -110.. you are laying too much here.. vd is taking full advantage of you.. you have way way way more to lose than him.. bullshit man..

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 10:34 AM

While I agree Nicky I'm getting the better end of this deal, I will try my damnedest not to be sarcastic or anything in this video. I'll hold up my end of the bargain to the best of my ability should I have a losing season.

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:35 AM

Nicky this was my idea

Nicky this tool VegasDave cannot beat NFL...be serious

It will be that much better when Dave blows it...and I remind him daily...

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 10:40 AM

I'll start a fresh tracking thread the week before the NFL kicks off

Nicky Santoro · 08-25-09, 10:41 AM

onner, lets say he hits 54% over 50 games..(27-23).. do you think that will prove he's a pro? come on man, it's only 50 games.. that means if 1 of those 50 games didn't throw in INT in the last min and 1 of the 50 games didnt take a kneel down, he woudl have lost..

also, is this going by %, OR units +/-.. this should be discussed..

what if he hits 41% and ends up +3 units? he might take a ton of +180 ml dogs.. how will this work, and who's lines is he using.. for sake of arguments, go by pinny closers.

what are the rules.. i need to see them..

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:44 AM

Nicky it is units

We need to decide what books are allowed

He can play anything between +250 and -250

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 10:45 AM

It's obviously going by units Nicky, hence the word "profitable".

41% +3 units or 59% +3 units, doesn't matter either way. Profitable is profitable.

All lines I take will be readily available on SBR lines when I make the pick.

onthewhat · 08-25-09, 10:48 AM

How will we deal with matchy because if you played there with $$ you pay commissions?

fsugolf · 08-25-09, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by onthewhat

Dave I will give you my word on this

this is classic

Shark79 · 08-25-09, 10:51 AM

How about we just ban OTW for life and give NIcky a week suspension.

I really could careless for both since there taking shots at VD for no reason.

VegasDave · 08-25-09, 10:51 AM

I won't mess with matchbook or pinny, just the other books on sbrodds.com such as 5dimes, Greek, Legendz, BetJam, Bookmaker, etc.

Nicky Santoro · 08-25-09, 10:52 AM

NO WAY he can do matchy..forget it.. it's not fair.. he cant play into -110/+109 and not pay commission.. -110/+109 = -112/+107.. forget it..

lets just go with pinny only. make it easier to follow.. you can't be shopping for best price out of 121 books. it's not realistic..

or pick 3 books, that's it..