5% of bets or 10% of losses horse refund? Loving betphoenix so far

[topgame85]

A lot of offshores offer rebates on each horse bet generally 3% to 7% of wager, Betphoenix gives you 10% of losses back. I personally like this a lot more which one has more expected value? either way i'll take the loss rebate anyday.

[Justin7]

Do they go into the pool?

[topgame85]

betphoenix does not nor do any offshores that I am aware of

[topgame85]

My personal horse play activity usually comes out as good weeks being very good or bad weeks being very bad so on very good weeks I'm fine getting no rebate but on very bad weeks it feels better getting a nice account boost on monday, betjam gives 7% instantly but I usually just spend that next race not thinking about it having 10% of losses boost a depleted account the following monday is a nice moral booster saying hey its a new week giveit another go

[exstatman]

Is this some kind of joke? Why would you play anywhere that has limits as low as 100-1 on exotics?

[topgame85]

100-1? don't see that anywhere.... exacta 150/1 trips 500/1 supers 1500/1 w/p/s full track odds..... if your playing wps or exotics with normal sized expected returns not mamoth payouts no problem with this book, most offshores have payout caps and most are about the same if not lower than phoenix

[Sam Odom]

Topper, you love the nags dont you?

[topgame85]

You have no idea odom, I am a sick man when it comes to the ponies I eat sleep shit and dream the poniez.... No better rush in the world than that I have experienced so far, maybe someday I will find a hobby that I am more passionate about than the horses but not yet

[konck]

A lot of places have full track odds on exactas

[topgame85]

A lot of places have full track odds on exactas

Yes there are some not sure I would say a lot unless I'm not thinking of some but not many that do are somewhere I'd want my money in for too long

[ryanspeer2001]

100-1? don't see that anywhere.... exacta 150/1 trips 500/1 supers 1500/1 w/p/s full track odds..... if your playing wps or exotics with normal sized expected returns not mamoth payouts no problem with this book, most offshores have payout caps and most are about the same if not lower than phoenix

I agree, unless you are taking huge longshots in monster plays a limit of 100-1 is pretty excessive.

How many $2 exacta's pay back $200? Very very few.

If you are going to take shots on 1000 - 1 returns I would only do it at the actually track as you don't want to have to tie up tens of thousands in a book and play the waiting game.

[topgame85]

I agree, unless you are taking huge longshots in monster plays a limit of 100-1 is pretty excessive.

How many $2 exacta's pay back $200? Very very few.

If you are going to take shots on 1000 - 1 returns I would only do it at the actually track as you don't want to have to tie up tens of thousands in a book and play the waiting game.

Precisely ryan I am by no means saying abandon your ADW like youbet or twinspires but to have a place you can get full track odds on w/p/s and some normal sized exotics where if you lose you get 10% back is nothing too shabby

[fiveteamer]

I do not play exotics so playing off shore is fine for me.

Take the 5% on net wagers.

No off shores bets into pools, Pinny kind of did.