What's up with the Confederate Battle Flag???

[CashMoney]

Just got back from a week in Tennessee and was a little shocked at all the confederate flags being shown all over the place. From t-shirts and jackets to people having a license plate with it on their cars. I actually got a bit upset over it after a few days. Personally, I see no reason to show it or be proud of it. Can anyone from down south shed some light on this for me?

[Sam Odom]

[Mikail]

They say it is their heritage

[FrozenMAN]

dude down in the south the civil war is STILL being fought, been like that forever and will continue to do so till who knows when

[mmike032]

what do you think it represents?
probally racism and slaves...
it is hertiage and always will be regardless of what Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton has led you to believe.

[nosniboR11]

why dont you look it up and give yourself a history lesson, and if you dont like stay the **** out of the south

[StraitShooter]

Its just part of US states history..I am a Yankee and it dont bother me

[StraitShooter]

It really should just be looked at as a symbol of unified states in the 1800s..I do not look at it as a symbol for slavery

Its always the true racist who are first to pull the racist card IMHO

[Jimmy0607]

Theres a huge one here in Brandon FL by I-75 , they still think it's 1874

[mmike032]

excerpt:

the Confederate battle flag has no more to do with the Ku Klux Klan than the

The Ku Klux Klan marched down Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C. in 1952 carrying the U.S. flag. Click picture for additional photos.
Christian cross which the Klan carries and burns or the flag of the United States that the Klan says the Pledge of Allegiance to, yet the news media and Hollywood constantly try to connect our Confederate flag to the Klan in their propaganda. However, the news media never ask preachers if they are Klan members, because they wear a cross around their necks or link the American Legion to the Klan because they carry the U.S. flag. It is time to put an end to this anti-Confederate bigotry. It is past time that the truth was told. Hitler's tactic of "tell a big enough lie often enough and people will believe it" has been utilized to the fullest extent, to smear the Confederate States of America and her symbols such as the battle flag.

[Jimmy0607]

The truth is that most NOT ALL of the people that carry the confederate flag are racist, and we all know that is true

[mmike032]

who the fvck carries a confederate battle flag
so if the battle flag represents racism...
what does the Malcom "X" represent..

[WileOut]

They say it is their heritage

We say it is our heritage and culture because IT IS. It represents a culture. Southern culture.

A fact that not many people know:

The year before the civil war was started, 70% of the southern white people DID NOT OWN SLAVES. That means the vast majority of white people in the south could have cared less about the slavery issue.

The civil war was not fought over slavery, it was fought over unfair taxes being places on the south and the fact that our culture was simply vastly different than the culture and people of up north. Washington DC did not know what was best for the states of the south, yet they wanted to impose their will on us.

The flag is flown everywhere down here, and it does not represent racism unless it is flown by a KKK member or something. In 99% of the cases, the flag simply represents our way of life, our culture.

To this day, southern people are mostly for states rights, and believe the individual state knows whats best for its people better than the federal government.

[mmike032]

We say it is our heritage and culture because IT IS. It represents a culture. Southern culture.

A fact that not many people know:

The year before the civil war was started, 70% of the southern white people DID NOT OWN SLAVES. That means the vast majority of white people in the south could have cared less about the slavery issue.

The civil war was not fought over slavery, it was fought over unfair taxes being places on the south and the fact that our culture was simply vastly different than the culture and people of up north. Washington DC did not know what was best for the states of the south, yet they wanted to impose their will on us.

The flag is flown everywhere down here, and it does not represent racism unless it is flown by a KKK member or something. In 99% of the cases, the flag simply represents our way of life, our culture.

To this day, southern people are mostly for states rights, and believe the individual state knows whats best for its people better than the federal government.

SOUTHERN BY THE GRACE OF GOD

[WileOut]

[CaneDawg]

be thankful we live in a country where you can fly any flag you want

[MickChunky]

even Luda likes the Stars and Bars, it ain't racist

[Jimmy0607]

I dont care if you carry it or not , it is a free country, I mean black people have Black channel , black month and all kinds of black stuff , and if white people wpuld have a white Channel and all that they would be racist

[topgame85]

Southern flag looks kiss ass first of all second of all it is absolutely heritage, the flag does not symbolize racism as a matter of fact THE CIVIL WAR WAS NOT ABOUT RACISM OR SLAVERY! The civil war was fought because of state's rights, yes one of which was slavery which was horrible and anyone with a brain whole heart disagrees with but the fact is Lincoln hated black people and had no concern for their well being he used slavery and the war to gain power. Lincoln violated this countries constitution and had no right to stop the south from succeeding or to severe west virginia from virginia! Although the end result was no more slavery the route that was taken to achieve it was illegal and illogical and resulted in the pain and suffering of both the north and the south for years. Study the topic yourself don't believe what the school books tell you. There were other ways that slavery could have been ended had Lincoln not been a knucklehead.

[topgame85]

Thanks LM, always remember the old saying "the winners get to write the history books" because the North won they can say anything they want but with a little due diigence you can find the fog that covers the truth behind the civil war

[CaneDawg]

civil war was really....the war of northern agression

thats what we like to call it

[losturmarbles]

civil war was really....the war of northern agression

thats what we like to call it

i was just about to post that the civil war wasnt technically a civil war. It was a war between the states.

a civil war is conflict within a country where the aim is to take power of that country.
the southern states were only exercising their constitutional rights.

[topgame85]

That and at the time was the war between the states. The way this country was founded was a collection of states that had the freedom to make their own laws and were responsible to handle the needs of their citizens the fedeeral government was practically non existint in terms of purpose. The only reason the state's really unified in the first place was to have an "alliance" per se against potential invaders. Each state was and constitutionally really should have been its own independent entity however today we identify more as "Americans" than say "New Yorkers" or "Virginians" we have come along way from the way this country was intended to be constructed and governed in the times of the revolution

[BadNina]

In some places in the South, the flags of Great Britian, France and/or Spain are flown also cause at one point we were part of their countries. It has no racists connetations. It is a part of the South's history. The fact that most people don't realize the real reason for the War of Northern Agression (state's rights.....not slavery) is pathetic.

[losturmarbles]

Thanks LM, always remember the old saying "the winners get to write the history books" because the North won they can say anything they want but with a little due diigence you can find the fog that covers the truth behind the civil war

agreed.

government schools teach that the ends was slavery and the means was the civil war.

when actually slavery was the means, and the ends was eliminating state's rights and power.

[BadNina]

That and at the time was the war between the states. The way this country was founded was a collection of states that had the freedom to make their own laws and were responsible to handle the needs of their citizens the fedeeral government was practically non existint in terms of purpose. The only reason the state's really unified in the first place was to have an "alliance" per se against potential invaders. Each state was and constitutionally really should have been its own independent entity however today we identify more as "Americans" than say "New Yorkers" or "Virginians" we have come along way from the way this country was intended to be constructed and governed in the times of the revolution

I really do agree with this.

[topgame85]

agreed.

government schools teach that the ends was slavery and the means was the civil war.

when actually slavery was the means, and the ends was eliminating state's rights and power.

could not have said it any better but I would expect such things from someone with ayn rand as their quote

[CashMoney]

why dont you look it up and give yourself a history lesson, and if you dont like stay the **** out of the south

Just asked people to shed some light! There were many intelligent responses to this thread...unfortunately your's wasn't one of them. I enjoyed my time down south and will probably go back in the future. Nothing better than some biscuits, bacon and gravy in the morning.

DICK!!!!!

[mmike032]

and grits and sweat tea

[betplom]

be thankful we live in a country where you can fly any flag you want

Yeah, there aren't many countries in the world that let you fly any flag you want.

[StraitShooter]

I always look at this flag as a symbol for redknecks

[StraitShooter]

be thankful we live in a country where you can fly any flag you want

Best post I have read in my short tenure here

[Shortstop]

CashMoney, quit letting Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the ACLU and MSNBC brainwash you.

There are some very good posts in this thread, I hope you learned something.

[CashMoney]

CashMoney, quit letting Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the ACLU and MSNBC brainwash you.

There are some very good posts in this thread, I hope you learned something.

If I ever see Jesse Jackson I'll punch him in the face.
Only 1 inch closer and Fat Ass Al would be no more.
ACLU???
MSNBC - Do people actually watch that crap?

There are some great posts in this thread and because of it my eyes are opened a bit wider.

Didn't start the thread with the intent of insulting anyone. Just wanted to get the point of view from those who are from the "South."