Another illinois track bites the dust. I grew up going to balmoral park all the time. Maywood too. Crazy that arlington would go before hawthorne
Arlington Park being sold
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ThaWojSBR Hall of Famer
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ThaWojSBR Hall of Famer
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#37Dont forget about Rene Douglas. Brutal accident.Originally posted by Brock LandersEXACTLY
The place is a palace
The fields have sucked for years though
I cut my teeth there mid 90's
Earlie Fires
Aaron Gryder
Mark Guidry
Wingin Randy Myer
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StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
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#38Yeah, that sucked. Don't forget Robby Albarado and Garrett Gomez!Originally posted by ThaWojDont forget about Rene Douglas. Brutal accident.Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
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#39That would have been a nutso bet that you could rib people forever more on, unreal.Originally posted by ThaWojCrazy that arlington would go before hawthorneComment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
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#40JJ is clueless. It is a beauty track no riff raff just horrible manangemt for gamblers. Its the Wrigly Field of the 90's crap product but people loved to go. Now before the fire and years afterwords it was a great track BUT man did management just tank the place. And remember the HUGE fix on the pic 6 when it held breeders cupOriginally posted by Brock LandersEXACTLY
The place is a palace
The fields have sucked for years though
I cut my teeth there mid 90's
Earlie Fires
Aaron Gryder
Mark Guidry
Wingin Randy Myer
Great track
It;s the only track my wife liked to go to she loved the Binnys wine tasting and all the VIP events... dragging her to Maywood or Sprortsman/Hawthorne was an ordeal like no other.Comment -
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#41JJ
You need a life. Get outta Penn - geez go back to Ocala..........lolComment -
BOA12SBR Posting Legend
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#42Good riddance. Dead track. People of the area disagree, though, I am not one of them. Long live Hawthorne, always my favorite. Still miss Sportsman.Originally posted by jjgoldGood riddance
Dead track
Terrible areaComment -
BOA12SBR Posting Legend
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#43U remember Sunday Night Thoroughbreds at Balmoral after Saturday AP? Lived a stone throw from Maywood '93 and beyond.Originally posted by ThaWojAnother illinois track bites the dust. I grew up going to balmoral park all the time. Maywood too. Crazy that arlington would go before hawthorneComment -
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#44Had big days with my wife at AP. Too many beautiful wandering to bring a wife, however. Like bleachers at wrigley. My first date with the wife was Maywood on a cold December night in '83. She hated the [lace that I loved, very typical.Originally posted by littlekonaJJ is clueless. It is a beauty track no riff raff just horrible manangemt for gamblers. Its the Wrigly Field of the 90's crap product but people loved to go. Now before the fire and years afterwords it was a great track BUT man did management just tank the place. And remember the HUGE fix on the pic 6 when it held breeders cup
It;s the only track my wife liked to go to she loved the Binnys wine tasting and all the VIP events... dragging her to Maywood or Sprortsman/Hawthorne was an ordeal like no other.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
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#45Yea defenitley eye candy city at ARlington have to wear sun glasses. Every signner I ever hit at Hawth or Maywood with her man she would get so nervous with all the rif raff watching. She did like the grandstand at maywood though a bit such a great view of the racesOriginally posted by BOA12Had big days with my wife at AP. Too many beautiful wandering to bring a wife, however. Like bleachers at wrigley. My first date with the wife was Maywood on a cold December night in '83. She hated the [lace that I loved, very typical.Comment -
Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
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#463:00 posts on Friday's in the summer, loved that.
Like I said, early/mid 90's the cards at Arlington were killer.
Used to rush out to Balmoral park to hit the early daily double. Got pretty damn good at hitting those regularlyComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#47Many tracks will be closing next 5 yearsComment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
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#48one of my best memories was back in 2004 Million when they took down Powerscourt for the slightest impedement to the fading Detori horse and moved up Kickkin Kris to win and Powerscourt off the board. So I backed into a baseballed tri Detori and Desormeaux paid over 3K. All in the while some Englishman was going crazy pissed he had 5K WP on Powerscourt. Kitten's joy won the secratariat that year too.Comment -
DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer
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#49I remember that; Kent Desormeaux saw it happen, crossed the wire second and waved his stick like he had won because he knew he was going to be moved up.Comment -
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#50For sure - Thanks for that memory. Great day for me and I see you did well alsoOriginally posted by littlekonaone of my best memories was back in 2004 Million when they took down Powerscourt for the slightest impedement to the fading Detori horse and moved up Kickkin Kris to win and Powerscourt off the board. So I backed into a baseballed tri Detori and Desormeaux paid over 3K. All in the while some Englishman was going crazy pissed he had 5K WP on Powerscourt. Kitten's joy won the secratariat that year too.
I'm going to miss that track and the fun I had.Comment -
Dr. FagerSBR High Roller
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#51Hoss Moderator gets no respect on this board, shameful. Guy just trying to contribute. He's on the right track (pun unintended) though, in the not too distant future only five states will host thoroughbred racing on a regular basis.Comment -
mrpapageorgioSBR MVP
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#52Less of they couldn't, more they don't want to.Originally posted by BuckandadimeThat will be a big party..
I don't see how or why CD couldn't revive or revamp the track..
Its good news for Hawthorne..
CDI owns a majority stake in Rivers Casino which is the highest earning Casino in IL which is 18 miles away. Last year, the state gave all the race tracks the opportunity to build a casino and have sportsbetting. Hawthorne took it up, Arlington didn't. They don't want to cannibalize Rivers.
IIRC, I thought I heard the lease was only like $6 million/year. They could easily buy that out or just keep making payments.Originally posted by d2betsRivers is huge very nearby and majority owned by Churchill. Basically they just went with the new location and don't want a nearby competitor. Lots of people would like to see the Bears move out there, but their lease still runs through 2030 and I doubt Chi is letting them out.
Question is do the McCaskeys want to venture into that. Any other owner, I would say yes.Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
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#53Great stuff BOA12Originally posted by BOA12Had big days with my wife at AP. Too many beautiful wandering to bring a wife, however. Like bleachers at wrigley. My first date with the wife was Maywood on a cold December night in '83. She hated the [lace that I loved, very typical.
I was overseas when Storming Home threw Gary Stevens at the last minute and cost my friend the winner in the Million - he emailed me saying, "Did you see that finish at the Million? WTF!". I laughed when I watched the replay because otherwise I'd have cried. That's one thing that hasn't happened to me in terms of a bad beat in sports betting, or racing.
If you can believe it a few years back in probably the worst beat of all time, a guy at Gulfstream has the #9 at 8-1 for the unique pick 6 rainbow ticket in the last leg ... he's storming down the lane for the win and with maybe 25 yards the rider gets tossed ... unreal. I think it was for $500k. Let's see if I can find this.
Yes, here you go. Oh my word.
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littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
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#54#2 on list of bad beats was whale jackpot guy who had lone singles on same ticket and race ended in dead heat him having both runners YET since the race was dead heat (2) winners jackpot didnt pay.Originally posted by StackinGreenGreat stuff BOA12
I was overseas when Storming Home threw Gary Stevens at the last minute and cost my friend the winner in the Million - he emailed me saying, "Did you see that finish at the Million? WTF!". I laughed when I watched the replay because otherwise I'd have cried. That's one thing that hasn't happened to me in terms of a bad beat in sports betting, or racing.
If you can believe it a few years back in probably the worst beat of all time, a guy at Gulfstream has the #9 at 8-1 for the unique pick 6 rainbow ticket in the last leg ... he's storming down the lane for the win and with maybe 25 yards the rider gets tossed ... unreal. I think it was for $500k. Let's see if I can find this.
Yes, here you go. Oh my word.
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#55Are you saying they don't want to because of cost, or some other reason? I don't really know much about it. I know it was actually discussed way back when Halas was around.Originally posted by mrpapageorgioLess of they couldn't, more they don't want to.
CDI owns a majority stake in Rivers Casino which is the highest earning Casino in IL which is 18 miles away. Last year, the state gave all the race tracks the opportunity to build a casino and have sportsbetting. Hawthorne took it up, Arlington didn't. They don't want to cannibalize Rivers.
IIRC, I thought I heard the lease was only like $6 million/year. They could easily buy that out or just keep making payments.
Question is do the McCaskeys want to venture into that. Any other owner, I would say yes.
I don't know though, I live near there and the traffic would be a nightmare. There's Metra, but the capacity on that is limited and already busy. I'm trying to imagine everyone riding Metra there on a gameday. Would be a complete nightmare, even if we're not still social distancing lol.Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
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#56That's amazing, I actually think in total that is far more unlikely than Jaramillo falling off. Dead heats are super rare but more common than a fall that causes you to lose, however you have both runners on live tickets and they both dead heat in that very race ending a pick 6. I have to tell my boys about this one!!! Thanks for that, I would have never dreamed that scenario up, even.Originally posted by littlekona#2 on list of bad beats was whale jackpot guy who had lone singles on same ticket and race ended in dead heat him having both runners YET since the race was dead heat (2) winners jackpot didnt pay.
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#57Similarly, unless you are from the suburbs or live in NW Chicago, Rivers being right by O'Hare (and it's a small place) is horrible for travel and traffic. F Illinois anyway, the place is a hassle. I wonder how Hawthorne is, do they have a good book?Originally posted by d2betsAre you saying they don't want to because of cost, or some other reason? I don't really know much about it. I know it was actually discussed way back when Halas was around.
I don't know though, I live near there and the traffic would be a nightmare. There's Metra, but the capacity on that is limited and already busy. I'm trying to imagine everyone riding Metra there on a gameday. Would be a complete nightmare, even if we're not still social distancing lol.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
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#58the best casino has worst book William hill...Elgin esp with pokerOriginally posted by StackinGreenSimilarly, unless you are from the suburbs or live in NW Chicago, Rivers being right by O'Hare (and it's a small place) is horrible for travel and traffic. F Illinois anyway, the place is a hassle. I wonder how Hawthorne is, do they have a good book?Comment -
ThaWojSBR Hall of Famer
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#59Amazing how many ppl are from this area. I left 10 years ago tho had to get out of that shit state.
I miss balmoral tho. Had some good times out there. They used to have $1 beer and $1 hot dog nights. They had a buffet on the 3rd floor dining room which was nice. I had my 18th bday party there lol. I remember getting ryan anderson, andy miller, and Dave magees autographed pictures and program one night. Too many cheaters tho. Ryans dad joe was a juicer. Same with Eric ledford. Always had my doubts about brent holland. I think dale the hitman hiteman was my favorite driver. Del and merv chupp were dirty. Got to see big tom race. Also one of the best trotters kadabra. Plesac as well. Anyone remember super night in September? Big big races. Nothing like standing along the rail and beating it with the program. Balmoral started going downhill when all the big name drivers left to go out east to the big m and yonkers and then over to Indiana. Oh I forgot morgan went to Delaware too.Comment -
hehfestSBR Hall of Famer- 09-28-08
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#60Did FEMA buy it to put all the dissidents there? Yes, that includes SBR. You fukkers will be sent there to argue and watch football games on the big screen until they wack you.Comment -
Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
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#61If memory serves, steinbrenner owned Balmoral, or something of that nature.Originally posted by ThaWojAmazing how many ppl are from this area. I left 10 years ago tho had to get out of that shit state.
I miss balmoral tho. Had some good times out there. They used to have $1 beer and $1 hot dog nights. They had a buffet on the 3rd floor dining room which was nice. I had my 18th bday party there lol. I remember getting ryan anderson, andy miller, and Dave magees autographed pictures and program one night. Too many cheaters tho. Ryans dad joe was a juicer. Same with Eric ledford. Always had my doubts about brent holland. I think dale the hitman hiteman was my favorite driver. Del and merv chupp were dirty. Got to see big tom race. Also one of the best trotters kadabra. Plesac as well. Anyone remember super night in September? Big big races. Nothing like standing along the rail and beating it with the program. Balmoral started going downhill when all the big name drivers left to go out east to the big m and yonkers and then over to Indiana. Oh I forgot morgan went to Delaware too.
Truly cut my teeth thereComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#62Chicago a crap place guys other than a few sections of City
Suburbs over priced and high taxesComment -
floridagolferSBR MVP
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#63There ought to be no more than 25 tracks in the country. If that means there's no place for $2,000 claimers, so be itComment -
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#64As opposed to the crap place U live? U know little or nothing.Originally posted by jjgoldChicago a crap place guys other than a few sections of City
Suburbs over priced and high taxesComment -
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#65All elites agree.Originally posted by floridagolferThere ought to be no more than 25 tracks in the country. If that means there's no place for $2,000 claimers, so be itComment -
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#66Arlington just another Midwest hayseed track
was at their OTB a few times was very nice though...no attendance and a fairly good greasy spoon restaurant..
all the midwest tracks no match for east coast..
Go to Belmont and see what a real racetrack is.
Best Harness track was Roosevelt Raceway. no close 2nd.
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#67I you are ever in the vicinity, try Oaklawn and report back.Originally posted by winkyyywas at their OTB a few times was very nice though...no attendance and a fairly good greasy spoon restaurant..
all the midwest tracks no match for east coast..
Go to Belmont and see what a real racetrack is.
Best Harness track was Roosevelt Raceway. no close 2nd.
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#68As far as Beauty
Santa Anita, Gulfstream Park, Delmar, Golden Gate a few others top shelf
NY tracks cannot compete with themComment -
PigpenSBR MVP
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#69agree, other than SaratogaOriginally posted by jjgoldAs far as Beauty
Santa Anita, Gulfstream Park, Delmar, Golden Gate a few others top shelf
NY tracks cannot compete with themComment -
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#70Beautiful track.Originally posted by PigpenI you are ever in the vicinity, try Oaklawn and report back.Comment
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