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  • maggiethebestdog
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-21-13
    • 6700

    #36
    Originally posted by RockBottom
    These recruiting class rankings are a bunch of hype. Is the kid a 4 star because he's good, or because Harbaugh is looking at him? ND went thru this with Willingham and Weis.
    There are certainly variables in the rankings, but that applies to every team

    They aren't so far off to explain what has happened at Michigan

    They get plenty of talent

    They don't have a football coach to develop that talent

    If that isn't obvious to you, then I can't help you
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    • mjsuax13
      Moderator
      • 03-14-15
      • 25118

      #37
      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
      There are certainly variables in the rankings, but that applies to every team

      They aren't so far off to explain what has happened at Michigan

      They get plenty of talent

      They don't have a football coach to develop that talent

      If that isn't obvious to you, then I can't help you
      Bingo. The development of the talent is non existent. Kids get worse year over year. The list is way too long...
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      • mjsuax13
        Moderator
        • 03-14-15
        • 25118

        #38
        Here’s the deal for me though.... I can’t recruit, I can’t coach, I can’t play so all I can do is bitch.
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        • WolverineFan
          SBR MVP
          • 03-12-10
          • 1299

          #39
          Originally posted by mjsuax13
          Mags, it’s soooooo bad there right now. I will never make an excuse for Harbaugh. It is absolutely brutal to watch. The kids never get better and the play calling/preparation only gets worse....

          This program is a joke. What happened to the guy trying to fight Carroll and Jim Schwartz on the sideline? Where did Jim go? What we have been watching is absolutely shameful. They should be embarrassed but to our point- where the fuk are they? Where is the admin? When you know, you know and they are MIA. They probably let him step down/retire and he keeps the change.

          I’m telling you pal- they are more concerned with being a liberal arts school, flying rockets, getting more foreign kids in and solving climate change. It’s the sad state and it pisses me off. It was a very different school when I went there... now the student section (albeit 2020) is half empty and filled with kids that couldn’t care less about the program. We were inebriated and trying to win games and penetrate the other teams fans. The admin seems to not care whatsoever and that is probably most frustrating beyond their shit play. You and I would have AXED the guy long ago but they just don’t seem to care.
          Well him bringing Michigan back from basement dweller for 8-10 yrs , to making the school 100+ million dollars(pre pandemic) every year gave him some rope for those 8-4 and 9-3 seasons...This year is the 1st time the team has fell off the rails and this is Harbaugh's last yr of contract so its going to be interesting to see how they handle it..If he had another yr left on his contract I could see letting this yr be a wash because it was gonna be down yr anyway with new everything on O..But after this debacle thats happening now I don't see how in the hell they give him another contract...I just hope JJ and the recuits in this class stay because it's a pretty good one...He is gonna have to clean dam house with Coordinators and maybe sign him 1 or 2 yr deal with low buyout..I dunno but it can't get much worse!!!! SMH
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          • clockwise1965
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-01-13
            • 6753

            #40
            Originally posted by mjsuax13
            Nobody does less with more. Maybe Texas depending on who you talk to. Total shame.
            Exactly
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            • maggiethebestdog
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-21-13
              • 6700

              #41
              Originally posted by mjsuax13
              Here’s the deal for me though.... I can’t recruit, I can’t coach, I can’t play so all I can do is bitch.
              It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't come in as the overhyped arrogant look at me guy, who talks smack all of the time

              He can't back it up

              That's why its worse

              Like you said, as long as they make money with him they don't care about winning

              Other programs would have boosters and alumni revolting to the point of jeopardizing that money train, but not Michigan
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              • maggiethebestdog
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-21-13
                • 6700

                #42
                Originally posted by WolverineFan
                Well him bringing Michigan back from basement dweller for 8-10 yrs , to making the school 100+ million dollars(pre pandemic) every year gave him some rope for those 8-4 and 9-3 seasons...This year is the 1st time the team has fell off the rails and this is Harbaugh's last yr of contract so its going to be interesting to see how they handle it..If he had another yr left on his contract I could see letting this yr be a wash because it was gonna be down yr anyway with new everything on O..But after this debacle thats happening now I don't see how in the hell they give him another contract...I just hope JJ and the recuits in this class stay because it's a pretty good one...He is gonna have to clean dam house with Coordinators and maybe sign him 1 or 2 yr deal with low buyout..I dunno but it can't get much worse!!!! SMH
                A ham sandwich could have the same W/L record with those recruiting classes

                Beat up the scrubs and get pasted by anybody with equal or better talent

                Now the scrubs are beating him with far less talent

                Nobody should ever look at W/L records in college football for perennial top 25 recruiting teams

                Half the games played are scrimmages

                You need to look at records against equal or better talented teams

                Now, they are the scrubs, with far more talent than the previous scrubs
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                • mjsuax13
                  Moderator
                  • 03-14-15
                  • 25118

                  #43
                  Originally posted by WolverineFan
                  Well him bringing Michigan back from basement dweller for 8-10 yrs , to making the school 100+ million dollars(pre pandemic) every year gave him some rope for those 8-4 and 9-3 seasons...This year is the 1st time the team has fell off the rails and this is Harbaugh's last yr of contract so its going to be interesting to see how they handle it..If he had another yr left on his contract I could see letting this yr be a wash because it was gonna be down yr anyway with new everything on O..But after this debacle thats happening now I don't see how in the hell they give him another contract...I just hope JJ and the recuits in this class stay because it's a pretty good one...He is gonna have to clean dam house with Coordinators and maybe sign him 1 or 2 yr deal with low buyout..I dunno but it can't get much worse!!!! SMH
                  You are right on. That money bought him lots of time on the Ohio State debacles but it’s so embarrassing at this point. The players have that “Shane Morris/Brady Hoke” concussion look where they flat out can’t do anything. They can’t even tackle. They just got dominate by Penn State running a basic offense and Penn State at 0-5 knew they were going to win. Our offense is an even bigger joke.
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                  • mjsuax13
                    Moderator
                    • 03-14-15
                    • 25118

                    #44
                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                    It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't come in as the overhyped arrogant look at me guy, who talks smack all of the time

                    He can't back it up

                    That's why its worse

                    Like you said, as long as they make money with him they don't care about winning

                    Other programs would have boosters and alumni revolting to the point of jeopardizing that money train, but not Michigan
                    It’s really bad... most of the “old guard” alumni have been shut out by the new administration. I’m only 16 years removed but it’s just a changed place. It’s not an open door policy. They don’t care. Boosters are pissed but they’ve been shut out and the AD was college teammates with Harbaugh so he’s a “Bo guy” like that matters. Frustrating.

                    You are absolutely 100% correct on his arrogant hot shot bullshit. Total fraud. They made him rich beyond his wildest dreams though... to make matters worse, Detroit Lions probably make a run at him and give him a nice SE Michigan soft landing when he “steps down”
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                    • Mr KLC
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-19-07
                      • 31097

                      #45
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #46
                        I would think he’s going to get fire at the end of the season they have no choice now
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                        • mjsuax13
                          Moderator
                          • 03-14-15
                          • 25118

                          #47
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          I would think he’s going to get fire at the end of the season they have no choice now
                          Allentown High School offered him a 3 year deal.
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                          • HAPPY BOY
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 7109

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Mr KLC

                            guys gone..Ohio will dismantle Mich to make it 0-6
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                            • RockBottom
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-03-08
                              • 1448

                              #49
                              Originally posted by mjsuax13
                              It’s really bad... most of the “old guard” alumni have been shut out by the new administration. I’m only 16 years removed but it’s just a changed place. It’s not an open door policy. They don’t care. Boosters are pissed but they’ve been shut out and the AD was college teammates with Harbaugh so he’s a “Bo guy” like that matters. Frustrating.

                              You are absolutely 100% correct on his arrogant hot shot bullshit. Total fraud. They made him rich beyond his wildest dreams though... to make matters worse, Detroit Lions probably make a run at him and give him a nice SE Michigan soft landing when he “steps down”
                              Usually when the old guard gets shut out, it eventually gets noticed when lack of money comes in.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #50
                                Well at least Jimmy no more big man on campus

                                The guy laughing stock of college football so we are happy
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                                • mjsuax13
                                  Moderator
                                  • 03-14-15
                                  • 25118

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by HAPPY BOY
                                  guys gone..Ohio will dismantle Mich to make it 0-6
                                  They will get corona
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                                  • Itsamazing777
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-14-12
                                    • 12602

                                    #52
                                    its 100 percent on jim
                                    hes clueless
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                      I remember when he came in and struggled early. They said to let him build a program and in 4 or 5 years they will be successful.

                                      What happened to recruiting?

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                                      • mjsuax13
                                        Moderator
                                        • 03-14-15
                                        • 25118

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        I remember when he came in and struggled early. They said to let him build a program and in 4 or 5 years they will be successful.

                                        What happened to recruiting?

                                        He recruits...

                                        65% don’t get developed properly.
                                        30% transfer.
                                        5% actually look like a player and leave.

                                        It’s the one place along with Texas that recruits well yet players get slower, dumber and more ghetto as the years go by. They don’t even get Boobie Miles ghetto... it’s like Fineas & Ferb watching ghetto fags (true story)....

                                        Chain the gates, rip up the seats, scrape the stadium and sell it back to the city.
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                          He recruits...

                                          65% don’t get developed properly.
                                          30% transfer.
                                          5% actually look like a player and leave.

                                          It’s the one place along with Texas that recruits well yet players get slower, dumber and more ghetto as the years go by. They don’t even get Boobie Miles ghetto... it’s like Fineas & Ferb watching ghetto fags (true story)....

                                          Chain the gates, rip up the seats, scrape the stadium and sell it back to the city.
                                          5 years ago I never would have thought this would be true.

                                          What happened? Coaching staff? Apathy? How does he go from NFL SuperBowl to making players worse?

                                          lol
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                                          • Seattle Slew
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-02-06
                                            • 7373

                                            #56
                                            It's incredible Harbaugh has not recruited one good QB in 6 years. How is that even possible.

                                            He only had one good season, and that was with Hoke's players.
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                                            • veriableodds
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-22-17
                                              • 5093

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                              Yes, that feeling of Michigan football for the last 20 years.
                                              juiced yesterday, thought was a good wager sucks.
                                              Atleast for me it wasn't a pga(final day) wager the only time, and only sports i actually increase my wagers
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