US Prosecutor fail re: Kaplan/Betonsports (Video)

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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    US Prosecutor fail re: Kaplan/Betonsports (Video)
  • Casperwaits
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-06
    • 5042

    #2
    Interesting point of view Justin. The US Govt. IMO wouldn't give back a dime owed to the US players just because it would give US players a sense of security if this ever happened again. The US is trying to discourage not encourage us to play offshore.
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    • Justin7
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-31-06
      • 8577

      #3
      In this case though, the US mugging of Betonsports leaders is what caused the book to fail. If the US hadn't kidnapped Caruthers out of the Dominican Republic, and nabbed Gary Kaplan during a stopover in an international flight, all these players would still have their money (or lost it, or gotten a payout).

      I think this resolution is ridiculous. It's a horse and pony show, and the players were ****ed. Restitution, track the old money... I don't buy that "Betonsports was bankrupt". The made over $1b in 2004. These profits... funneled elsewhere. Once they sign the plea deal, they have no way to go after that money. But Prosecutor Hanaway doesn't give a shit. She's probably patting herself on the back, and has no clue how many ways she blew it.
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      • Leverage
        SBR Sharp
        • 07-30-09
        • 253

        #4
        Justin you look nothing like I imagined...
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        • Justin7
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-31-06
          • 8577

          #5
          Originally posted by Leverage
          Justin you look nothing like I imagined...
          Dare I ask?
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          • Leverage
            SBR Sharp
            • 07-30-09
            • 253

            #6
            Something like Sol in the Ocean's movies...
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            • fsugolf
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-17-09
              • 6194

              #7
              that's how i imagined Fishead until he said he was dumpster diving


              oh and epic fail by the us
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              • Leverage
                SBR Sharp
                • 07-30-09
                • 253

                #8
                I just discovered sbr.tv. This stuff is great. Great vids Justin.
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                • SBR_John
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-12-05
                  • 16471

                  #9
                  Justin, could the players as a class sue the US or Gary at this point?
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                  • ijustwant2bpaid
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-11-08
                    • 3706

                    #10
                    i think this case screws any future court cases up if i am not mistaken...
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                    • Justin7
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-31-06
                      • 8577

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                      Justin, could the players as a class sue the US or Gary at this point?
                      Maybe. But he has all his money in a foreign trust. Even if you got a judgment against him, you could not collect.
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                      • Justin7
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-31-06
                        • 8577

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid
                        i think this case screws any future court cases up if i am not mistaken...
                        Criminal, yes. Civil, no.
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                        • flyingillini
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-06-06
                          • 41219

                          #13
                          Thanks for such a great video, once again!
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                          • Sarah
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 08-11-09
                            • 62

                            #14
                            yeah even with the prosecution money can not be retrieved most of thme are being moved right now by ht board of directors of betonsports before thats why some of them are using costa rican now to make a dummy corporation in costa rica so they can hide the money tuorisim , investment firm and other things ... so if will be impossible to recover that money
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                            • RealSlimShady
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-24-07
                              • 6249

                              #15
                              Well, if the government's goal is to discourage offshore betting, it's their best move. If they do this enough times, people will be afraid to send money offshore to bet, thus choking off the demand from here. Not only do players have to worry about books fleecing players, they'd have to worry about getting funds seized by the government!
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                              • Sarah
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 08-11-09
                                • 62

                                #16
                                second of all most the managers and directors of betonsports are now operating under a big company in costa rica like BETCRIS so they can operate under the radar and move the money without US goverment seeing them
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                                • reno cool
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-02-08
                                  • 3567

                                  #17
                                  I'm surprised about such a long prison system. But restitution to the players? You've been around long enough to know the govt or the gaming boards have no concern for the player. No surprise there.
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