Are the PACKERS the greatest USA sports franchise of all-time(everything considered)?

DwightShrute · 08-06-09, 06:55 PM

why do you think so?

BrentCrude · 08-06-09, 07:04 PM

The Packers concept falls between alot of unortodox cracks.Back when the packing company and Curley Lambeau founded them,players played for free.So the team becomes a community city owned team.I think back then fans used to buy wortless shares like they do now that are just contributions.So the town is in on the ground floor of the NFL for free.They collect gigantic tv rights,merchandising rights and all that stuff where they are flush with money.So the players strart making mega salaries in the last 20 years and the team feels they have to stay with the times turning the stadium into a show piece.So I live near Superior,Wisconsin around 300 miles north of Green Bay.I have to pay a tax when I go over there to eat at a ** Donald's that goes to paying the Packer organization.That sucks man!What I'm getting at is that at first the whole concept was ok when they ran the team like a business and just were self sufficient.Now they have become a parasite!

I used to go to alot of games there because I have relatives there who get tickets.It was really fun.I had alot of great memories going to watch training camp in the 60's when all their stars were there.

Now that they have become beggars where they force you to volunteer to pay their bills,I have become an anti fan and root for them to lose games.

DwightShrute · 08-06-09, 07:06 PM

a no vote from BrentCrude

topcat · 08-06-09, 07:51 PM

I AGREE,also.i believe they are publicy owned if iam not mistaken.which in my opinion makes them that much more family friendly.

The General · 08-06-09, 07:52 PM

Redwings?

Fishhead · 08-06-09, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by The General

Redwings?

Goddamn, do you have to crack me up with every single post you make?

The General · 08-06-09, 08:32 PM

LOL

head_strong · 08-06-09, 08:37 PM

Another idiotic post.....congrats Fishhead for keeping the streak alive.

head_strong · 08-06-09, 08:57 PM

#1 New York Yankees 26 World Series Titles 39 AL Pennants

#2 Boston Celtics 17 Championships 20 Conference Titles

#3 Los Angeles Lakers 15 Championships 30 Conference Titles

I'd have the Steelers and Packers pretty close to even.....Steelers 6 Super Bowl Championships are the most in NFL history while the Packers have 9 NFL Championships with 3 Superbowl Championships.

DwightShrute · 08-06-09, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by head_strong

#1 New York Yankees 26 World Series Titles 39 AL Pennants

#2 Boston Celtics 17 Championships 20 Conference Titles

#3 Los Angeles Lakers 15 Championships 30 Conference Titles

I'd have the Steelers and Packers pretty close to even.....Steelers 6 Super Bowl Championships are the most in NFL history while the Packers have 9 NFL Championships with 3 Superbowl Championships.

The true champions Montreal Canadiens: 23 CUPS

the toughest championship to win

Fishhead · 08-06-09, 09:06 PM

Winning championships alone does not make for the best franchise.

Everything considered, GREEN BAY PACKERS.

head_strong · 08-06-09, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

The true champions Montreal Canadiens: 23 CUPS

the toughest championship to win

Since Montreal is located in the USA you are right they are the greatest USA sports franchise of all-time.....

head_strong · 08-06-09, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Winning championships alone does not make for the best franchise.

Everything considered, GREEN BAY PACKERS.

Hold on let me reconsider everything.....ok I'm done, the New York Yankees are still the greatest USA sports franchise of all-time, not even close. Make an argument that the Packers are better cause I need a good laugh.

pavyracer · 08-06-09, 09:14 PM

Detroit Lions

dwaechte · 08-06-09, 09:28 PM

You might want to list your criteria.

BestPlay2day · 08-06-09, 09:29 PM

Green Bay is a great franchise and has a unique situation where the public owns the team. There is only around 1/4 million people in the Green Bay area which always sells out their games. I have heard the 1st thing you do when your child is born is put them on the season tickets waiting list so they might have a chance to get season tickets when they are middle aged. They have a great history and if not publically owned, they would of moved many years ago.

DwightShrute · 08-06-09, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by head_strong

Since Montreal is located in the USA you are right they are the greatest USA sports franchise of all-time.....

wow, how did I miss that??

My bad. Nevermind

MartinBlank · 08-06-09, 10:05 PM

WHAT?

The Packers ahead of the Yankees?

Are you clinically insane?

Set aside the championships for a second and just think of the lore of the players that have played for the Yankees.

For cripes sake, they have 44 players in the Hall of Fame. 44.

Ruth
DiMaggio
Mickey Mantle
Lou Gehrig
Reggie Jackson
Whitey Ford
Yogi
Roger Maris
Casey Stengel

The list is endless...what does the Pack have? They have a coach in Lombardi, and maybe Bart Starr. Ask the average football fan to name you 5 famous Packers and they get stuck after Starr and Bret Favre.

The Pack flies in the midwest, but they don't draw the emotion, history, winning, players that the Yankees have.

Hell, when it comes to Football, I wouldn't even put the Packers among the top 5 franchises. That list would begin with the Bears and Papa Halas, the Steelers and the Rooney family, Paul Brown and his Bengals, the Cowboys and how they dominated the popularity/fans.

What criteria would you use to place the Packers above the Yankees? and better, what criteria would you use to place the Packers ahead of the Bears, Steelers, Cowboys?

CashMoney · 08-06-09, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

The true champions Montreal Canadiens: 23 CUPS

the toughest championship to win

Let's forget that Montreal is not in the U.S.

The hardest thing to do in all of sports is to hit a round ball with a round bat

The NYY are the greatest franchise in all of sports. If you don't belive it just check out Forbes.

DwightShrute · 08-06-09, 10:13 PM

everyone knows it's the Yankees!

The General · 08-06-09, 10:16 PM

Cowboys

head_strong · 08-06-09, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by CashMoney

If you don't belive it just check out Forbes.

2009 Forbes Top 10 Most Valuable Sports Franchises (Values in Billions)
1. Manchester United $1.8
2. Dallas Cowboys $1.6
3. Washington Redskins $1.5
4. New England Patriots $1.32
5. New York Yankees $1.3
6. Real Madrid $1.29
7. Arsenal $1.2
8. New York Giants $1.18
9. New York Jets $1.17
10. Houston Texans $1.17

The General · 08-06-09, 10:19 PM

Notre Dame

head_strong · 08-06-09, 10:25 PM

General where would you have East Carolina ranked?

So far you got the:
Red Wings
Cowboys
Notre Dame
I'd guess you put the Montreal Expos next
The the East Carolina Pirates?

The General · 08-06-09, 10:58 PM

I never considered E Carolina, Sir.

CashMoney · 08-06-09, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by head_strong

2009 Forbes Top 10 Most Valuable Sports Franchises (Values in Billions)
1. Manchester United $1.8
2. Dallas Cowboys $1.6
3. Washington Redskins $1.5
4. New England Patriots $1.32
5. New York Yankees $1.3
6. Real Madrid $1.29
7. Arsenal $1.2
8. New York Giants $1.18
9. New York Jets $1.17
10. Houston Texans $1.17

Prick.....didn't mean it literally.

Worth $1.3 and more people hate them then like them.

head_strong · 08-06-09, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by CashMoney

Prick.....didn't mean it literally.

Worth $1.3 and more people hate them then like them.

It's all good 8==D Face..... you said "If you don't belive it just check out Forbes" so I did. What does the fact they are worth $1.3 have to do with more people hating them then liking them?

MJFtheGenius · 08-06-09, 11:59 PM

every one knows the Yankees. Everyone knows the Cowboys.

It is the yankees though because there history starts int he early 1900s