Selling Name and Home Address to Books

Dank_Fire · 08-03-09, 05:57 PM

Probably PHX, they are a solid book other than the fact they are always calling trying to get deposits

tacomax · 08-03-09, 06:00 PM

Oddsmaker offer a free $100 no deposit bonus, though. It's not all bad.

bluefish · 08-03-09, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

Oddsmaker offer a free $100 no deposit bonus, though. It's not all bad.

SBR or Phoenix selling your name and address for about 10 cents. I'm mad.

RJbetphoenix · 08-03-09, 06:06 PM

BlueFish,

We would never attempt to sell our most valuable asset. Also, mailing houses use NCOA (National Change of Address) services for anti junk mail compliance. NCOA records held by the US Postal service will update the right address for the right person based on your mail forwarding info.

Regards,

Richard

RogueJuror · 08-03-09, 06:08 PM

Isn't this Iwin's ghost?

bluefish · 08-03-09, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by RJbetphoenix

BlueFish,

We would never attempt to sell our most valuable asset. Also, mailing houses use NCOA (National Change of Address) services for anti junk mail compliance. NCOA records held by the US Postal service will update the right address for the right person based on your mail forwarding info.

Regards,

Richard

Well Christ. You are saying if I move and fill out a mail forward card, after 5 months old junk mail will be sent to the original sender with my new address? These things weren't forwarded to me.

bluefish · 08-03-09, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by RogueJuror

Isn't this Iwin's ghost?

No, I'm thinner and have a full head of hair.

pavyracer · 08-03-09, 06:23 PM

Iwin's ghost is ***blue74 Juror. It has a blue corvette as avatar.

RogueJuror · 08-03-09, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by bluefish

No, I'm thinner and have a full head of hair.

Yeah I was thinking of bigblue74.

pavyracer · 08-03-09, 06:25 PM

My last name is 17 letters long. Usually someone misspells it differently. This is how I found out who sold my info when I get the mailers.

MartinBlank · 08-03-09, 06:27 PM

Shocked I tell you, shocked that a book sells info for marketing to other books.

Say it ain't so.

flyingillini · 08-03-09, 06:28 PM

SBR doesn't sell info.

RJbetphoenix · 08-03-09, 07:41 PM

We would never sell your infor. It is the only real asset in a player we have. The cost of a member or CPA (cost per acquisition) is average $300 to $400 per player.

As far as the NCOA item, you wont see them as forwards, you will just see them show up. There are also 3rd party companies who append data as well to update old information.

jjgold · 08-03-09, 07:49 PM

What happens usually is some clown low level worker associated with book sells it secretly to thieves or hackers break in and sell them

Never is high level mangement or owner of a book

SBR ain't selling anything either

bluefish · 08-03-09, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by RJbetphoenix

We would never sell your infor. It is the only real asset in a player we have. The cost of a member or CPA (cost per acquisition) is average $300 to $400 per player.

As far as the NCOA item, you wont see them as forwards, you will just see them show up. There are also 3rd party companies who append data as well to update old information.

I will have to verify this with the post office. It was explained to me that if I fill out a forward form it is only forwarded for 2 months. I have have to reach out to the party to give them my correct address for future mail to be delivered. Something seems strange that the post office will give these places my new address. They should only be forwarding it.

SBR_John · 08-03-09, 09:07 PM

Knock on wood but I think SBR is one of the very few sites to never sold any database or info and never had it copied or stolen.

Database hackers are a tough group. Databases for sites like forums have become much more secure with the patches and fixes over the past couple of years.

Also a lot of sites negotiate with sportsbook sponsors to give out or allow the books a few shots at the list. The site can "say" they didnt give out your info because they didnt but they did allow the spam. Its a bit dirty.

SBR has never given, sold, loaned, ect, any info in any way what so ever. Its not about being saintly. Its a business and we believe strongly that the best business decision is to protect player info and invest in the means and protocol to keep it secure.

durito · 08-03-09, 09:18 PM

All of my banks and credit card companies changed my address automatically and I'd only given the new address to the post office.

pavyracer · 08-03-09, 09:47 PM

This may be a stupid question since it's been 2.5 years since I signed up at SBR but I don't remember requiring an address or name given to create an account here. Am I right?

Sforz · 08-03-09, 09:56 PM

betpho is a solid book, you think they would sell your info to their competition?

Slim · 08-03-09, 09:58 PM

I think mofo is doing the same thing across the street. Giving away $100 a day of his own money in a daily contest. The kid doesn't even make $300 a week how the fuk can he give out $100 a day? I think they have to give out their name and address to claim the money on a BetJam transfer. I don't like it JJ.

SBR_John · 08-03-09, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

This may be a stupid question since it's been 2.5 years since I signed up at SBR but I don't remember requiring an address or name given to create an account here. Am I right?

Thats right, for posting on the forum. But if you joined any real money contests you might have.

InTheHole · 08-03-09, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by RJbetphoenix

BlueFish,

We would never attempt to sell our most valuable asset. Also, mailing houses use NCOA (National Change of Address) services for anti junk mail compliance. NCOA records held by the US Postal service will update the right address for the right person based on your mail forwarding info.

Regards,

Richard

bluefish · 08-04-09, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Thats right, for posting on the forum. But if you joined any real money contests you might have.

No cash contests. Ok now it is the us postal service or Bet Phoenix. Pavy, you have a memory like an elephant.

SorrySBR. At the very least you validated this point if it was to ever come up.

unluckysob · 08-04-09, 11:22 AM

Its the life you have chosen. What The ****. Throw it in the trash can.