Do they even arrest local bookies anymore?

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  • MarioBareseSP
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    • 07-23-08
    • 443

    #1
    Do they even arrest local bookies anymore?
    Since there's so much emphasis on the big offshore Sportsbooks.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    Of course and lots


    Most also linked to boiler rooms in costa rica
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    • mathdotcom
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      • 03-24-08
      • 11689

      #3
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      • MarioBareseSP
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        • 07-23-08
        • 443

        #4
        Making threats is certainly not the way to go, If not for threats he'd probably still be making some solid money.
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        • MarioBareseSP
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          • 07-23-08
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          #5
          What about Tax form 11-C. That supposed to be the opportunity for Bookmakers to claim their money.
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          • BGS 9.5
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            • 01-10-08
            • 4628

            #6
            Originally posted by MarioBareseSP
            What about Tax form 11-C. That supposed to be the opportunity for Bookmakers to claim their money.
            I understand the theory behind 11-C, and it also prevents nontax criminal prosecution by filing the form. Seems a small price to pay to be in compliance to me.
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            • MarioBareseSP
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              • 07-23-08
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              #7
              That's an Interesting one. So it's what...Semi Legal you mean to say?
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              • BGS 9.5
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                • 01-10-08
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                #8
                As an agent or bookie, you are required to file the form and pay $50 if you in a legal state, $500 if operating in a state where bookmaking is illegal. The IRS cannot crimmianlly prosecute you if you file the form and pay the $500, nor pass the information on to your state, as long as you report the "gambling activity" on your tax return.
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                • MarioBareseSP
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                  • 07-23-08
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                  #9
                  What about other types of law enforcement? Can they prosecute?
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                  • BGS 9.5
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                    • 01-10-08
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MarioBareseSP
                    What about other types of law enforcement? Can they prosecute?
                    My understanding is no, as long as you are otherwsie in compliance with the IRS.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Easy to arrest local books because they threaten guys and then the player squeals
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                      • BGS 9.5
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                        • 01-10-08
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BGS 9.5
                        My understanding is no, as long as you are otherwsie in compliance with the IRS.
                        Ahh, I think I misread your last post Mario. Outside of the IRS reals (I am a CPA), I can't really speak on the random arrest of bookmakers for illegal activities at the state level. My guess is sure they can, but probably don't.
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                        • flyingillini
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                          • 12-06-06
                          • 41219

                          #13
                          It's easy to arrest if they let the whole world know their business on a public forum.
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                          • BGS 9.5
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                            • 01-10-08
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                            #14
                            And let us not be fooled, if they were inclined to make such arrests, the forums would not be the worst place to start....
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                            • flyingillini
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                              • 12-06-06
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                              #15
                              If you are paying people by using paypal and collecting the same way they will get you... If you brag about it on a public forum and don't deny your activity you are asking for trouble.
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                              • BGS 9.5
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                                • 01-10-08
                                • 4628

                                #16
                                Moral of this story: Don't get caught
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                                • BGS 9.5
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                                  • 01-10-08
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                                  #17
                                  In all seriousness, I have done some tax returns in the past for some pretty serious gamblers, but not any agents. If I were to do so, I would have in my engagement letter that they need to file Form 11-C.
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                                  • MarioBareseSP
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                                    • 07-23-08
                                    • 443

                                    #18
                                    Totally number dislexic. I wouldn't be able to do it if I tried, Just thought it would be an interesting question to ask. As for this whole 11-C form business, It seams as though there may be glimmers of a legalization coming in the near future. Howl long has this form even been out, and why don't any of the bookies even think about filing it.
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                                    • Flying Dutchman
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                                      • 05-17-09
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MarioBareseSP
                                      Totally number dislexic.
                                      This has a English name: Dyscalculia


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                                      • MarioBareseSP
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                                        • 07-23-08
                                        • 443

                                        #20
                                        Besides......everyone knows the forum for that is Craigslist.
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                                        • BGS 9.5
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                                          • 01-10-08
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MarioBareseSP
                                          Totally number dislexic. I wouldn't be able to do it if I tried, Just thought it would be an interesting question to ask. As for this whole 11-C form business, It seams as though there may be glimmers of a legalization coming in the near future. Howl long has this form even been out, and why don't any of the bookies even think about filing it.
                                          For 1 of several reasons:

                                          1. Scared of getting on the Fed's radar
                                          2. Scared of getting on their own State's radar
                                          3. They have no clue it exists
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                                          • MarioBareseSP
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                                            • 07-23-08
                                            • 443

                                            #22
                                            That's pretty crazy. I would jump at that opportunity.
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