Can anyone define a 'recreational player'?

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  • TheBeautifulGame
    SBR MVP
    • 08-26-08
    • 1286

    #1
    Can anyone define a 'recreational player'?
    An automatic losing player?? I have seen this sort of mentioned in another thread but in my search for a new site for the new prem league season, when checking out the bonus terms on a website, I came across the following:

    ------ reserves the right to confiscate any bonuses and/or money won with said bonuses if Management determines a player to be Non-Recreational.

    Now, I know almost all sites will have something similar in their rules but what does this mean ? If I join and deposit with this site and I somehow happen to win my first 10-15 bets in a row, would I be them deemed a 'Non recreational player' and have my bonus/real funds confiscated? It basically gives them grounds to stiff you if you happen to win??

    When quoting this rule, in my opinion they are basically saying that, we will offer you this extra bonus cash (incentive for you to deposit with us) so you have more funds in your account to bet with but if you win a lot, we reserve to right to remove the funds completely from you?

    So, in conclusion, what the hell is a 'recreational player'?
  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #2
    Jjgold
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    • sickler
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-05-08
      • 15006

      #3
      Bets small amounts, doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
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      • Justin7
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-31-06
        • 8577

        #4
        If you can read, you're not recreational.
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #5
          Originally posted by sickler
          Bets small amounts, doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.


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          • TheBeautifulGame
            SBR MVP
            • 08-26-08
            • 1286

            #6
            Originally posted by sickler
            Bets small amounts, doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

            Again, nice avatar. Good point but if the site is offering bonuses on large enough amounts of deposits ($1,500 upwards). I assume they WANT you to bet large amounts or assuming that your depositing there, WILL be betting large amounts. I know all sites do it but it does seem to be a very easy way for them to take money from you.
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            • BestPlay2day
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-08
              • 5794

              #7
              I think the books are looking for bigger bettors that consistantly beats the closing number. They consider these players knowledgable and a threat to win money long term.
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              • durito
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-03-06
                • 13173

                #8
                Originally posted by Justin7
                If you can read, you're not recreational.
                then i'm not sure how this forum works
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                • sickler
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-05-08
                  • 15006

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheBeautifulGame
                  Again, nice avatar. Good point but if the site is offering bonuses on large enough amounts of deposits ($1,500 upwards). I assume they WANT you to bet large amounts or assuming that your depositing there, WILL be betting large amounts. I know all sites do it but it does seem to be a very easy way for them to take money from you.
                  A recreational bettor betting large amounts won't be a recreational bettor for long. He'll be broke.
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                  • BGS 9.5
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-10-08
                    • 4628

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sickler
                    Bets small amounts, doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
                    Pretty much sums it up. Anybody that can do "darn, I didn't win that game" and believe that, more power to em....
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                    • DwightShrute
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-17-09
                      • 103755

                      #11
                      usually someone that gives "well rounded action" bets. Not ONLY dogs or favorites. A regular player, win or lose, does a parlay once in awhile, a teaser, a favorite, dog.
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                      • xyz
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-14-08
                        • 521

                        #12
                        Originally posted by durito
                        then i'm not sure how this forum works
                        It would depend on what the player is reading.
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                        • bettilimbroke999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-04-08
                          • 13254

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Justin7
                          If you can read, you're not recreational.
                          Would you feel a book is justified in stealing funds or bonuses after determining a player is non-recreational? I've always wondered why books even have that in their rules, if they give you a bonus do they not at least have the obligation to follow through with that bonus, I mean can they really rescind the bonus or winnings AFTER you've won money or partially/completely rolled it over?
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                          • reno cool
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-02-08
                            • 3567

                            #14
                            They always have wording in there that can potentially excuse or rationalize any "ruling" the book wants to make.
                            bird bird da bird's da word
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                            • pico
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 04-05-07
                              • 27321

                              #15
                              i am recreational
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                              • RogueJuror
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-08-08
                                • 10010

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                Jjgold

                                whore shit fishy , jjgold is a professional

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                                • CS-Cedrick
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-10-09
                                  • 1578

                                  #17
                                  Hey there fellas. Nothing to do with the amount you wager in most cases, being a recreational player is basically not double hitting and not showing the book the business-like nature of whatever you play, sounds weird but that's probably what it is. By the way, this is just an opinion, no official facts. Take care of yourselves fellow posters.
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                                  • donjuan
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-29-07
                                    • 3993

                                    #18
                                    usually someone that gives "well rounded action" bets. Not ONLY dogs or favorites. A regular player, win or lose, does a parlay once in awhile, a teaser, a favorite, dog.
                                    This is something non-rec bettors do too.
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                                    • JerseyShop101
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 09-04-08
                                      • 2704

                                      #19
                                      I think it sucks even more when a recreational bettor gets on a winning streak and gets his limits lowered.
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                                      • sickler
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-05-08
                                        • 15006

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by CS-Cedrick
                                        Hey there fellas. Nothing to do with the amount you wager in most cases,
                                        Recreational books have lower limits. Recreational player can play larger amounts at books catering to pros. Pro player might get the boot or have limits cut at recreational book.

                                        So, pro player -----> pro book ------> higher limits

                                        recreational player ------> recreational book -----> lower limits
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                                        • Dank_Fire
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-13-09
                                          • 2274

                                          #21
                                          Bets the over more than the under,
                                          Loves to bet favoirtes and public teams like NYY and Patriots
                                          Has no clue what steam is
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            1. Bets amounts that do not effect his or hers daily financial life , basically does not hurt him if he loses.

                                            I know guys that bet $10 a game and are compulsive gamblers and know guys that bet 2k per game and are recreational players.

                                            Recreational also means gambling for fun and have no intentions on winning

                                            I know guys also that bet $10 per game and are not recreational players and are pros
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