Who has Stats on Pitcher's next start after a Perfect Game?

Willie Bee · 07-28-09, 01:12 PM

Here's the aftermath of the most recent 11 perfectos Amby.

Catfish Hunter: perfect game May 8, 1968 vs. Twins in Oakland
Next outing May 14 at Minnesota, 6 IP, 8 ER, 4 HR, 5 BB, 4 K ... Oak wins 13-8

Len Barker: perfect game May 15, 1981 vs. Blue Jays in Cleveland
Next outing May 20 vs. Mariners in Cleveland, 9 IP, 3 ER, 1 HR, 1 BB, 10 K ... Sea wins 3-1

Mike Witt: perfect game Sep 30, 1984 Angels at Rangers
that was his last start of 1984 season; Lost his first start of 1985 season vs Twins

Kenny Rogers: perfect game July 28, 1994 vs. Angels in Texas
Next outing Aug 2 vs. White Sox in Texas, 5.1 IP, 4 ER, 1 HR, 3 BB, 2 K ... Chicago wins 6-2

David Wells: perfect game May 17, 1998 vs. Twins in NY
Next outing May 23 at Boston, 7 IP, 3 ER, 2 HR, 1 BB, 5 K ... Yankees win 12-3

David Cone: perfect game July 18, 1999 vs. Expos in NY
Next outing July 23 vs. Indians in NY, 4 IP, 2 ER (6 R), 2 HR, 4 BB, 7 K ... New York wins 9-8

Jim Bunning: perfect game June 21, 1964 Phillies at Mets
Next outing June 26 at St. Louis, 7 IP, 4 ER, 0 HR, 0 BB, 5 K ... Phils win 6-5

Sandy Koufax: perfect game Sep 9, 1965 vs. Cubs in LA
Next outing Sep 14 at Chicago, 6 IP, 1 ER (2 R), 1HR, 0 BB, 3 K ... Cubs win 2-1

Tom Browning: perfect game Sep 16, 1988 Reds vs. Dodgers
Next outing Sep 21 vs. Giants in Cincinnati, 8 IP, 1 ER, 0 HR, 1 BB, 4 K ... Reds win 5-1

Dennis Martinez: perfect game July 28, 1991 Expos at Dodgers
Next outing Aug 2 vs. Phils in Montreal, 7 IP, 4 ER, 1 HR, 2 BB, 4 K ... Phillies win 6-5

Randy Johnson: perfect game May 18, 2004 DBacks at Braves
Next outing May 23 at Florida, 7 IP, 2 ER, 1 HR, 1 BB, 5 K ... DBacks win 4-3

mathdotcom · 07-28-09, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by AMBlai01

How do pitchers do after Perfect games and no hitters in their next start?

Might be something to consider with Buehrle going tonight...

Wow someone has never taken a stats class.

Willie Bee · 07-28-09, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by mathdotcom

Wow someone has never taken a stats class.

I'm guessing that would be you. I've taken a few statistics courses in my lifetime, none of which ever covered games following a perfect game by a pitcher. God bless.

AMBlai01 · 07-28-09, 01:19 PM

And why is that Mathy? Because there is such a small sample size that it would be statistically insignificant? I realize this but its still nice to look at....

Beastxxx · 07-28-09, 01:20 PM

So the stats are 96% next start they loose I think

Thanks for this Willie Bee

mathdotcom · 07-28-09, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

I'm guessing that would be you. I've taken a few statistics courses in my lifetime, none of which ever covered games following a perfect game by a pitcher. God bless.

Was not talking about you.

AMBlai01 · 07-28-09, 01:25 PM

Well it woudl make sense...perfect games take a lot out of a pitcher....they have to go the distance and often they aren't used to throwing that many pitches but a coach isn't going to take them out at 120 pitches even with a pefecto going......

I think the only play in that game if you were to play the CWS/Min game tonight would be on Min....but I am not sure if I would even do that...

Willie Bee · 07-28-09, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Beastxxx

So the stats are 96% next start they loose I think

Thanks for this Willie Bee

No. According to the 10 I listed above (not counting the Mike Witt games in this), the start following a perfect game found the pitchers' teams winning 60% of the time.

mathdotcom · 07-28-09, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by AMBlai01

Well it woudl make sense...perfect games take a lot out of a pitcher....they have to go the distance and often they aren't used to throwing that many pitches but a coach isn't going to take them out at 120 pitches even with a pefecto going......

I think the only play in that game if you were to play the CWS/Min game tonight would be on Min....but I am not sure if I would even do that...

It all comes down to whether you think the line already reflects that.

Beastxxx · 07-28-09, 01:37 PM

Ok cool Willie I am not sure about the SOX/TWINS tonite

Willie Bee · 07-28-09, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by AMBlai01

I think the only play in that game if you were to play the CWS/Min game tonight would be on Min....but I am not sure if I would even do that...

I like the Twins as well, but not because of any post-perfecto stats and more because Minnesota is a much better team at home while the Pale Hose are a middling team at best on the road. If I was betting it, I think I'd take the Over 8½.

onthewhat · 07-28-09, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

No. According to the 10 I listed above (not counting the Mike Witt games in this), the start following a perfect game found the pitchers' teams winning 60% of the time.

Which is an irrelevant statistic in baseball.

Razz_Donkey · 07-28-09, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

I like the Twins as well, but not because of any post-perfecto stats and more because Minnesota is a much better team at home while the Pale Hose are a middling team at best on the road. If I was betting it, I think I'd take the Over 8½.

I think that is key here Willie, one need not get too distracted with the perfect game to see that the Sox hate playing in Minnesota, have not fared well their all season, and are going against a team that thrives in their home environment, not to mention how Buehrle was touched up for 8 ER in 3.5 innings on his last start in Minny.

AMBlai01 · 07-28-09, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by onthewhat

Which is an irrelevant statistic in baseball.

why? gotta explain yourself around here son...

The HOFF · 07-28-09, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Razz_Donkey

I think that is key here Willie, one need not get too distracted with the perfect game to see that the Sox hate playing in Minnesota, have not fared well their all season, and are going against a team that thrives in their home environment, not to mention how Buehrle was touched up for 8 ER in 3.5 innings on his last start in Minny.

Correct. The Sox are terrible here in Minnesota. I believe they are something like 2-11 in the last 13 at the 'Dome. The Twins seem to have Buehrle's number too.

tacomax · 07-28-09, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by onthewhat

Which is an irrelevant statistic in baseball.

It's appears to be a pretty relevant statistic to answer Amby's original question. Can you come up with a better one?

betplom · 07-28-09, 04:18 PM

In the next start following a perfect game 0% of those pitchers threw a second consecutive perfect game, not even a no hitter.

Strange, but true.

onthewhat · 07-28-09, 04:36 PM

Winning percentages in your next start has nothing to do with anything if you're wagering on the game. You need more information.

AMBlai01 · 07-28-09, 04:59 PM

did I ask for winning percentages? I just asked how they did.....

mathdotcom · 07-28-09, 05:13 PM

And the squares come out of their holes