Good Value on Hurts to win the Heisman at 14-1

[2daBank]

Hurts isn't getting draft in round 1 or 2. The only bet offered so far was to Kraken that Hurts doesn't go in the first round - loser leaves the forum forever.

Right, so I’m offering whatever he picked by end of second. Leave forum or whatever points or something (no interest making anyone leave) I’ve heard ppl who know these things say he will. I’ll happily bet.

[2daBank]

This was a really good bet btw. Where he at now? Prob already lower ain’t it?

[thomorino]

Right, so I’m offering whatever he picked by end of second. Leave forum or whatever points or something (no interest making anyone leave) I’ve heard ppl who know these things say he will. I’ll happily bet.

I'll be happy to make a bet with you - the original bet was designed for Kraken because he's an annoying little shit not that I care.

[thomorino]

NFL teams aren't stupid, they realize that Oklahoma is a system now, after Mayfield and Murray both struggle this year in the NFL it will hurt his case for being an early round pick too.

[The Kraken]

Hurts isn't getting draft in round 1 or 2. The only bet offered so far was to Kraken that Hurts doesn't go in the first round - loser leaves the forum forever.

Absolutely

[thomorino]

Absolutely

The bet is Hurts doesn't go in the first round - loser leaves the forum.

[2daBank]

NFL teams aren't stupid, they realize that Oklahoma is a system now, after Mayfield and Murray both struggle this year in the NFL it will hurt his case for being an early round pick too.

Yes they are, they been doing it going back to Sam Bradford!! Not to mention this offense is making it way into the nfl more and more., mayfield having a sophomore slump ain’t gonna stop teams from drafting hurts. Besides the tempo nfl offenses are turning very similar anyways, the fact he wasn’t a great passer at bama ain’t gonna stop anyone, ppl improve.

Some the garbage still in the league at qb there is no freaking chance some coach isn’t gonna fall in love w hurts film this year and think they can work w him considering what happening along the league., hell, I’d argue that Lamar Jackson improvement is better for hurts than either the sooners guys struggling would hurt him!! He seems very much more like Lamar Jackson than the last 2 sooners.

[2daBank]

Absolutely

It’s on!!! Wish you would have got second round too but now that I think about it a team in second round likely to move back up to get him at end of 1st to get that extra year!!

[thomorino]

Yes they are, they been doing it going back to Sam Bradford!! Not to mention this offense is making it way into the nfl more and more., mayfield having a sophomore slump ain’t gonna stop teams from drafting hurts. Besides the tempo nfl offenses are turning very similar anyways, the fact he wasn’t a great passer at bama ain’t gonna stop anyone, ppl improve.

Some the garbage still in the league at qb there is no freaking chance some coach isn’t gonna fall in love w hurts film this year and think they can work w him considering what happening along the league., hell, I’d argue that Lamar Jackson improvement is better for hurts than either the sooners guys struggling would hurt him!! He seems very much more like Lamar Jackson than the last 2 sooners.

Lamar Jackson is a freak athlete with incredible speed, Jackson doesn't have his athleticism. Jackson was also a much better passer than Hurts in college, look at their stats. I don't think Jackson will be a successful NFL QB long-term, but he's much faster than hurts.

[JoeCool20]

LOL Loser leaves the forum?

[2daBank]

The bet is Hurts doesn't go in the first round - loser leaves the forum.

Sounds like someone leaving.

Only problem is hurts a senior? For sure coming out? I don’t know what he is, lol.

[thomorino]

Jackson was worth drafting because of his speed - you could always attempt to convert him to receiver, Hurts doesn't have that speed.

[2daBank]

Lamar Jackson is a freak athlete with incredible speed, Jackson doesn't have his athleticism. Jackson was also a much better passer than Hurts in college, look at their stats. I don't think Jackson will be a successful NFL QB long-term, but he's much faster than hurts.

Yea he faster but his passing numbers ain’t gonna look better than hurts this year. He played in favorable system too.

[thomorino]

Sounds like someone leaving.

Only problem is hurts a senior? For sure coming out? I don’t know what he is, lol.

Yeah good point, I'm not sure if he has another year of eligibility because he didn't play much last year.

[2daBank]

Jackson was worth drafting because of his speed - you could always attempt to convert him to receiver, Hurts doesn't have that speed.

They drafted him as qb and were never gonna play him anywhere else: the league changing man.

[thomorino]

Yea he faster but his passing numbers ain’t gonna look better than hurts this year. He played in favorable system too.

I think his passing numbers will be better than Hurts's even in Oklahoma's system - you're forgetting Oklahoma hasn't played anyone with a defense yet.

[thomorino]

They drafted him as qb and were never gonna play him anywhere else: the league changing man.

The league is changing, but you can't compare Hurts to Jackson. Jackson is the fastest college QB I've seen since Vick, 4.2 forty speed.

[2daBank]

Yeah good point, I'm not sure if he has another year of eligibility because he didn't play much last year.

I thought when I heard someone talking about his draft prospects the other day I heard them say when he comes out in year or 2. I might have misheard tho.

That would give you disadvantage cause obviously if he knows he not a 1st rounder he might go back another year if he can.

[thomorino]

Jackson's last year he had a QBR of 148, Hurts won't beat that.

[thomorino]

No this is Hurts last year of eligibility.

[2daBank]

The league is changing, but you can't compare Hurts to Jackson. Jackson is the fastest college QB I've seen since Vick, 4.2 forty speed.

I don’t think the other sooner QBs good comps either. Far as throwing there more questions around him like Jackson was more my point so if Jackson throwing continues improving it will lead teams to think jalen can do same. That was really where I was going with that. Cause hurts not nearly as accurate as mayfield but much better athlete.

[2daBank]

No this is Hurts last year of eligibility.

Cool

[thomorino]

I don’t think the other sooner QBs good comps either. Far as throwing there more questions around him like Jackson was more my point so if Jackson throwing continues improving it will lead teams to think jalen can do same. That was really where I was going with that. Cause hurts not nearly as accurate as mayfield but much better athlete.

The difference is that Jackson is much faster than Hurts, Hurts is bigger and stronger, but he doesn't have that kind of speed. Hurts has also looked horrible passing at times like when he was with Alabama, Jackson was the better passer so far in college.
Hurts has looked good so far, but eventually Hurts will get exposed against a defense like TCU or in the playoffs against a team like Ohio State or Alabama. He's not the passer the other Oklahoma QBs are.

[thomorino]

The other reason Hurts isn't going first round is because the 2020 QB class will be very deep, there will only be so many teams looking to draft a QB, and he's not going to be at the top of the list. Much less incentive to trade up to get him.

[2daBank]

The other reason Hurts isn't going first round is because the 2020 QB class will be very deep, there will only be so many teams looking to draft a QB, and he's not going to be at the top of the list. Much less incentive to trade up to get him.

That is def in your favor, I didn’t really think of, much stronger class than last year! think 2nd still a given but might be interesting to see if he can go in 1st., will you guys remember the bet by then?? lol

[The Kraken]

Hurts might go #1 and this guy thinks he wont go by the end of the 2nd round

Confirm the bet, Mush.

Only stipulation is no season ending injury to Hurts, otherwise start packing your skirts, Sally

[thomorino]

Hurts might go #1 and this guy thinks he wont go by the end of the 2nd round

Confirm the bet, Mush.

Only stipulation is no season ending injury to Hurts, otherwise start packing your skirts, Sally

The bet was first round only dumb shit, if you don't stipulate to that it's off.

[thomorino]

Kraken is owned trying to change terms of the bet after it was agreed to.

[2daBank]

Kraken is owned trying to change terms of the bet after it was agreed to.

I’m pretty sure he still agreeing to 1st round, just looking for a out of hurts gets hurt. Whether you wanna give him that up to you, kinda fair cause obviously if he blows his knee out or his arm falls off he won’t go round 1, lol.

[thomorino]

I’m pretty sure he still agreeing to 1st round, just looking for a out of hurts gets hurt. Whether you wanna give him that up to you, kinda fair cause obviously if he blows his knee out or his arm falls off he won’t go round 1, lol.

Yeah I agree, if he gets hurt bet should be off. He also has a good chance of getting hurt, he's run 38 times already, and he takes a lot of contact, doesn't protect himself well.

[firedawg]

The bet was first round only dumb shit, if you don't stipulate to that it's off.

Lmaooooooooo

More welching

[thomorino]

Lmaooooooooo

More welching

The terms were clear parasite.

[2daBank]

Yeah I agree, if he gets hurt bet should be off. He also has a good chance of getting hurt, he's run 38 times already, and he takes a lot of contact, doesn't protect himself well.

Very fair of you, i would have def stipulated same thing if I was him for the reasons you state.

So I’m assuming the bet still on between you guys then?

Kracker needs to confirm. Long as hurts doesn’t get hurt then the bet is he gets drafted round 1 kracker wins, he doesn’t Morino wins, and you guys wanna do loser leaves for real?

[2daBank]

Lmaooooooooo

More welching

Na, he right it was round 1 only as their bet and he giving kravker the out if jalen gets hurt which more than fair.

[The Kraken]

Very fair of you, i would have def stipulated same thing if I was him for the reasons you state.

So I’m assuming the bet still on between you guys then?

Kracker needs to confirm. Long as hurts doesn’t get hurt then the bet is he gets drafted round 1 kracker wins, he doesn’t Morino wins, and you guys wanna do loser leaves for real?

Confirmed

Hurts goes in the first round

You’re welcome, SBR