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  • columbus
    SBR Rookie
    • 01-04-07
    • 3

    #1
    WSEX -frauds?
    I've got a big problem with WSEX. First of all I can't understand why they have A+ rating here. Unbelievable for me.
    I made some bad experiences with them.
    First the withdrawal policy. I deposited by ********** and the only way to get a withdrawal for me I was told is by check. So I have to accept high bank fees here in Germany for changing from $ back to EUR and for the
    processing of the check. This check they sent on 12th of Dec. alleged. Until today I received NOTHING.
    Second the live support. More than 5 times in the last weeks I tried this opportunity on normal US times! The window showed they are online!!! And only at my first try I got a live partner there! All the other times they didn't react, so I had to write by email.
    Third these emails weren't answered, especially the last 3 when I asked them why they send a check (saw it in the account history) with 9 US-$ less than my account balance were before. And especially if they sent the money or not! NO reaction! So I believe they want to deceive me!

    So I can only say the customer policy is poor by WSEX!!! ANd my money seems gone I believe...
  • SBR_John
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-12-05
    • 16471

    #2
    Welcome to the forum columbus.

    Relax and we will help you get this straight. You WILL be paid. I'm sorry you were treated to far less than A+ service. Let us find out what happened and we will report it to you and the forum.

    Please write us at Assistance@Sportsbookreview.com and we will get to work on it.
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    • bigloser
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-19-06
      • 787

      #3
      Sounds like sloppy CS around Xmas. No doubt everything will turn out OK with this genuine A+ book.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        no worries with WSEX

        One of the top 5 books now for 7 years in a row
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        • JC
          SBR Sharp
          • 08-23-05
          • 481

          #5
          Well, I can't defend the live support or the email problems. But I did just check and it has been 15 business days, and two days greater than three weeks on the straight calendar since December 12th. WSEX puts on their site "Up to three weeks for regular mail in the US." It doesn't say anything about regular mail to Europe.

          I have forwarded this thread to the right people and I am sure they will address this.

          This rises to the level of "fraud" as much as there is a "Crisis at BetCRIS."

          Point of interest JJ, unlike a so many of these other phonies, WSEX was founded in 1996, 10+ years now.
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          • Sam Odom
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-30-05
            • 58063

            #6
            For USA people I PERSONALLY recommend their "First Pay" card system, can be used at matchbook too.

            Altho, "Travis" in First Pay's C/S dept will promise more than he can deliver. In Fact he flat-out lied to me but I still recommend the debit card.
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            • SBR_John
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-12-05
              • 16471

              #7
              Not to worry. Many threads appear from time to time from frustrated players. Let them vent, its a players forum. We will get it straightened out. The forum will learn what happened with the CS with this player and they will learn he has been paid. All in due course.

              Most books have long since dropped the 'Regular Mail' option. It might be time that WSEX takes a look at that.
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #8
                Originally posted by Sam Odom

                "Travis" in First Pay's C/S dept will promise more than he can deliver. In Fact he flat-out lied to me...
                I just remembered something Travis promised me some $$ in my acct for all of the trouble I went thru BUT NEVER GAVE IT TO ME, that was 2 months ago.

                I'm being stiffed
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                • BuddyBear
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 7233

                  #9
                  I have never used WSEX but am starting to consider it for the Fall as the gaming landscape gets bleaker day by day....
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    Here's the email from First Pay

                    X-Apparently-To: (deleted)@sbcglobal.net via 216.252.101.64; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:08:29 -0800
                    X-Originating-IP: [83.244.130.25]
                    Return-Path: <support@first-pay.com>
                    Authentication-Results: mta122.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=first-pay.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
                    Received: from 207.115.36.33 (EHLO nlpi004.sbcis.sbc.com) (207.115.36.33) by mta122.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:08:29 -0800
                    X-Header-Overseas: Mail.from.Overseas.source.83.244.130.25
                    X-Originating-IP: [83.244.130.25]


                    Support <support@first-pay.com> wrote:

                    (name deleted),

                    My apologies, it will be sent to you on Thursday via FedEx. I didn't realize I had a message from the card makers. There was a question as to your new card number. I did not think it would have held up the process. I have responded to them, and they will send out Thursday.....once again I am very sorry for the trouble. I have not forgot about my promise either. As soon as you get the card I will add some funds to your new card.

                    Travis.
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                    • Dark Horse
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-14-05
                      • 13764

                      #11
                      WSEX is top of the line. If they had 107 juice, I'd prefer them over Pinny.
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                      • homedog
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 09-08-05
                        • 260

                        #12
                        Can anyone answer why they haven't changed their software to allow risk or win amounts to be entered rather than be selected off of a drop down menu with predetermined amounts?

                        I won't play at WSEX this year for bases for that reason alone.
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                        • Yoshi
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-29-06
                          • 548

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dark Horse
                          WSEX is top of the line. If they had 107 juice, I'd prefer them over Pinny.
                          Why? I cant find 1 thing that wsex is doing better than Pinny.
                          Pinny has earlier lines and most important the most opinionated lines of ALL books, higher limits, better website, faster email support, and pays just as fast.
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                          • Mr. NBA
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-08-06
                            • 524

                            #14
                            Are you kidding me?.....FRAUD?.....CS jerking me around "maybe", but fraud? cmon man.....and Dark Horse if they ever went to -107 I would eliminate about two outs, but ill tell ya the free withdraw every ten days rocks and knowing your money is rock solid safe is priceless.




                            mn
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                            • louis
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-23-06
                              • 763

                              #15
                              Wsex will pay you

                              Wsex will pay you.
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                              • bubba
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-29-05
                                • 2432

                                #16
                                Homedog, They Have Changed It. U Can Now Enter Any Amount.
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                                • pags11
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-18-05
                                  • 12264

                                  #17
                                  WSEX is a top book...
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                                  • Dark Horse
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-14-05
                                    • 13764

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Yoshi
                                    Why? I cant find 1 thing that wsex is doing better than Pinny.
                                    Pinny has earlier lines and most important the most opinionated lines of ALL books, higher limits, better website, faster email support, and pays just as fast.
                                    Personal preference. I know Pinny is the best, but I would love to see some of the A books start to compete with Pinny more aggressively. If such a book needed to go to 107 before getting to 105, I would gladly pay the difference.
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                                    • columbus
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 01-04-07
                                      • 3

                                      #19
                                      Thanks for the optimistic opinions about WSEX, most of you believe in a good turning!

                                      But otherwise I have to say their customer support is shit. I sent them this year alone two more more emails and they never answered me! Don't know if that's normal there! So if you got no reaction since about one month now what you would think about them?
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                                      • Sam Odom
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-30-05
                                        • 58063

                                        #20
                                        columbus, wsex is as solid as they come but c/s must be slacking? I too had my problems (see above)
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                                        • homedog
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 09-08-05
                                          • 260

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bubba
                                          Homedog, They Have Changed It. U Can Now Enter Any Amount.
                                          Just logged in and tried placing a wager. Nothing but the pull down for me.
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                                          • magnavox
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-14-05
                                            • 575

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by homedog
                                            Just logged in and tried placing a wager. Nothing but the pull down for me.
                                            Just below the pull-down menu is a link for "other amount".
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                                            • homedog
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 09-08-05
                                              • 260

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by magnavox
                                              Just below the pull-down menu is a link for "other amount".
                                              Thanks magnavox. If this remains I will be back for bases. No need for them until then.
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