Who Studies Overnights?

[jjgold]

If you know the way the line is going to move tomorrow you have a huge edge but not many people know and usually a guessing game and pure luck the line moves in your favor.

[Flying Dutchman]

If you know the way the line is going to move tomorrow you have a huge edge but not many people know and usually a guessing game and pure luck the line moves in your favor.

O'nites almost always softer than the days, JJ. Even a loser like KR knows this.

[sickler]

[Nicky Santoro]

i don't care what anyone says, there ain't 1 person on this board that can predict overnight which way a line will move by game time.. FORGET ABOUT IT.. even if they say they can predict this, i don't buy it.. its talk talk talk..

it's IMPOSSIBLE to tell which way a line will move with the naked eye, UNLESS you have some guy calling you up and telling you to play a game because he's part of some group.

even when you see at night a game and it's +145 and you think it will close at +115, then by game time, it is +160.. no way anyone can tell..

It's a complete guessing game..

[nosniboR11]

nicky knows everything, lol

[flyingillini]

Nicky we need another running around the track video

[tacomax]

i don't care what anyone says, there ain't 1 person on this board that can predict overnight which way a line will move by game time.. FORGET ABOUT IT.. even if they say they can predict this, i don't buy it.. its talk talk talk..

it's IMPOSSIBLE to tell which way a line will move with the naked eye, UNLESS you have some guy calling you up and telling you to play a game because he's part of some group.

even when you see at night a game and it's +145 and you think it will close at +115, then by game time, it is +160.. no way anyone can tell..

It's a complete guessing game..

So line movement is a complete guessing game yet somehow you manage to beat the closing line 98.3% of the time. How very odd. Unreal, even.

boys, i will tell you something, I dont know LT's style of betting, but he better be on his toes and be a pro and know how to beat #'s regularly, cause i will say this.. there ain't one person on board here who will end up with a better # than me in my game.. you can be sure that i will always end up with a great # and never a bad one.. well, in at least 98.3%, i will beat the OLY and CRIS closing line..

[BGS 9.5]

In baseball, nobody....

[Nicky Santoro]

to prove my point.. find me one guy here that can predict which way a line is going to move and consistently be right, and i will give him 500$.. i want 200 plays and lets see how many go his way.. if he can't do it consistently, i want 100$ from him..

not bad odds huh? 5-1..

i bet no one steps up to the plate..

thus, proving my point...

[Sam Odom]

I may a living getting the early numbers.

[tacomax]

to prove my point.. find me one guy here that can predict which way a line is going to move and consistently be right, and i will give him 500$.. i want 200 plays and lets see how many go his way.. if he can't do it consistently, i want 100$ from him..

not bad odds huh? 5-1..

i bet no one steps up to the plate..

thus, proving my point...

Since you have admitted you can beat the closing line 98.3% of the time, can I bet on you hitting over 90%? Thanks, Nicky.

[sickler]

Here Nicky, this thread is from last year. I grabbed the best price on the opener at Greek. 20 cent line, no less. Check line history for that game and find a better price at any other book at any other time. Just an example, I don't start threads like this anymore because when I'm placing bets for TOMORROW'S games, almost everyone in here hasn't decided who they're betting on in TODAY'S games. Not much interest.

There are other threads I could search for tomorrow. Not saying I'm the best at it but I know what I'm doing.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-handicapping/100720-should-linecum-fave-dog-tomorrow.html

[tacomax]

I may a living getting the early numbers.

Do you beat the closing line 98.3% of the time like Nicky does?

[Nicky Santoro]

that's 1 game only, sickler.. give me your next 200 and lets see how many will go your way.

i too have woken up and saw a line low at -120, bet it overnight, and it went my way and closed at -155.. happens a lot, but it also will go against me too..

i never predict line movement cause i've tried for 23 yrs and it dont work... i have a guy call me up and tell me a play will move and i hit it. or i just look for slow moving books, or look for weak lines, or hit my slow local.

no other way to do it..

[nosniboR11]

oh nicky you are not a god to sports betting, jeez , I swear you are not the only one that can make a killing , you dont know everything but ok good luck with that little ego of yours

[Nicky Santoro]

never said i was a god, i am far from it.. only said it can't be done to look at a line and know it's off. if anyone here can do this, they'd have more money than billy gates.

i have yet to see anyone take my challenge for an easy 500$.. that's because no one can pull this off..

[The General]

Nicky is worth listening to. Crazy actions that posters will not insert cotton from ears into mouth and learn.

[sickler]

i have yet to see anyone take my challenge for an easy 500$.. that's because no one can pull this off..

What's the bet?

[Nicky Santoro]

What's the bet?

don't do it, you'll lose.

200 plays and write down the current line and at least 3/4 should close in your favor.. not half, or not 60%..

i give you 500$ or you give me 100$ if you don't do it.. (which you won't)



even better, if you can predict line movement so good, i will give you more than 500$.. just pm me the plays and if you were really that good, which you won't be.. . but if you were, i would hammer these games and give you 20% of my winnings which would be probably 50k a year you'd make from me

but don't waste your time.. i've yet to meet anyone be able to do this, besides the computer groups..

[Flying Dutchman]

but don't waste your time.. i've yet to meet anyone be able to do this, besides the computer groups..

So only us originators can do this? I thought you said nobody.

[Nicky Santoro]

i assure you sickler ain't no originator, neither is anyone that posts at sbr..

[sickler]

don't do it, you'll lose.

200 plays and write down the current line and at least 3/4 should close in your favor.. not half, or not 60%..

i give you 500$ or you give me 100$ if you don't do it.. (which you won't)



even better, if you can predict line movement so good, i will give you more than 500$.. just pm me the plays and if you were really that good, which you won't be.. . but if you were, i would hammer these games and give you 20% of my winnings which would be probably 50k a year you'd make from me

but don't waste your time.. i've yet to meet anyone be able to do this, besides the computer groups..

Playing openers means picking spots, thus not betting many games. Doubt I even bet on 200 MLB games over the entire season. Unlike others here, I have nothing to prove. I'm ok with being thought of as a crappy gambler.

Nicky, there is such a thing as "early sharps" or "small sharps" (lower limits). Ask the books you play at about them. They help to properly set the line.

200 plays, yeah right. Shove it where the sun don't shine.

[Nicky Santoro]

Nicky, there is such a thing as "early sharps" or "small sharps" (lower limits). Ask the books you play at about them. They help to properly set the line.

i know all about this.. trust me.



btw, is 200 too much.. fine, you want to go with 75? i don't mind..

[Justin7]

don't do it, you'll lose.

200 plays and write down the current line and at least 3/4 should close in your favor.. not half, or not 60%..

If you beat the closer 60% in a small sport, you will crush it. I have never hit 75% though, even against Arena Football.

[sickler]

Well Nicky, then you're admitting that you were wrong when you claimed earlier that nobody can predict movement. Those early sharps at Pinny are getting the best number much of the time.

[Nicky Santoro]

no one can predict which way a line will go by just looking at a line.. a guy here can't see lincecum tomorrow and say, omg, he's only -178, that's a mistake, and bets it and expects it to go to -200 by game time like he expected, because he will be shocked at game time when it's now -154.. no one can predict which way it will go.

the only guys that do this consistently are the guys who work with the computer group or have some kind of communication with guys in the biz, or are hooked up to computer themselves.. not just any poster here at sbr..

it's not your everyday guy..

[sickler]

Here's another one, Nicky. NHL opener. Plommer alerted me to Pinny releasing the lines and I grabbed the Pens at +125. I challenge you to check the history and find a better number than that at any time at any book before closing.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/153042-no-nhl-lines-up-yet-thursday-games.html

Nicky, the first books to hang a line sometimes give a soft one, that's all I'm saying. It doesn't take a computer program or inside info to see it.

[tacomax]

If you beat the closer 60% in a small sport, you will crush it. I have never hit 75% though, even against Arena Football.

Nicky has admitted that he beats the closing line 98.3% of the time. Perhaps you should suck up to him and get some tips.

[sickler]

And Taco, since I'm bragging a bit, be my guest and search for threads where I was wrong on the opener.

Good luck.

[jjgold]

Probably the most effective way is to find public type games that people will bet on and try it that way .

[Flying Dutchman]

i assure you sickler ain't no originator, neither is anyone that posts at sbr..

...in players talk typically, TT is a different matter entirely.

Nicky, you ought to clam up before you lose what little credibility you have left.

[sickler]

[donjuan]

...in players talk typically, TT is a different matter entirely.

Nicky, you ought to clam up before you lose what little credibility you have left.

Nicky has never ventured into the TT for fear of getting completely owned.