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  • CashMoney
    SBR MVP
    • 01-07-08
    • 1982

    #1
    Local out of business??!!!!!
    I've been playing with a local for around two months. Lost the first week and have banged him pretty hard for the last 5 weeks in a row. Always been paid without a problem until today. Tells me he closing shop until the NFL season and that he needs a few days to settle up with me.

    I freakin hate playing with offshore books but am pretty much stuck. Long story short....no local to play with and waiting on $1500+ bucks.

    What kind of bookmaker goes out of freaking business?? I guess that can happen when everyone is broke and playing on credit
  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94383

    #2
    Is your local an asian?
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    • Bread
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-16-08
      • 23726

      #3
      You're never seeing that $1,500.
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      • themajormt
        SBR MVP
        • 07-30-08
        • 3964

        #4
        Not a lot of liquidity right now... Not sure how big he is but I am sure that most of his guys probably bet football. My local shuts down after the NBA finals and if I want something it has to be over a nickel and he gives me fukking shit odds.
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        • CashMoney
          SBR MVP
          • 01-07-08
          • 1982

          #5
          Not that I know of...then again I've never met him.....go through his right hand who is not Asian BTW. Considering his right hand is not asian I doub that he is.
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          • CashMoney
            SBR MVP
            • 01-07-08
            • 1982

            #6
            Originally posted by Bread
            You're never seeing that $1,500.
            My ass.....I'm getting my $$$ when way or another. I don't get that shit by Friday someone is getting seriously hurt
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            • themajormt
              SBR MVP
              • 07-30-08
              • 3964

              #7
              Were you referred to this guy? Are you sure he was legit? In college this wanna be bookie who ran track for my school thought he was the man and wanted to be a bookie. Well me and 2 of my boys and I think around 3 football players took him for over $18k in 2 weeks! He got destroyed and didnt have the bankroll to pay us all out. He ended up paying most of us and then got ratted out and lost his full ride because of it...
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              • themajormt
                SBR MVP
                • 07-30-08
                • 3964

                #8
                Do you place it with the right hand or the guy? Your right hand could have been taking the action hoping he lost... I have done that a few times and it seems to always backfire!
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                • lakerboy
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-02-09
                  • 94383

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CashMoney
                  Not that I know of...then again I've never met him.....go through his right hand who is not Asian BTW. Considering his right hand is not asian I doub that he is.
                  Thats the problem. The asians have lots of liquid cash and you never worry about the money.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    Sounds like a bubble gum bookmaker with no capital.
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                    • themajormt
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-30-08
                      • 3964

                      #11
                      I went through an Asian awhile back... The dude was more of a better than a bookie though. He was the best guy ever, I would call in to place my pitiful $100 bet and he would tell me who he has $5k-$10k on and then I would go online and put in a few parlays and he would kill it.
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                      • CashMoney
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-07-08
                        • 1982

                        #12
                        Originally posted by themajormt
                        Do you place it with the right hand or the guy? Your right hand could have been taking the action hoping he lost... I have done that a few times and it seems to always backfire!
                        Action is placed online. Never had a problem until this week. I haven't been totalling killing him either.....little over $1G a week for the last 4 weeks.
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                        • CashMoney
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-07-08
                          • 1982

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Sounds like a bubble gum bookmaker with no capital.
                          Agree.....was thinking how the hell a bookie doesn't have a reserve for when people try to stiff.
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                          • themajormt
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-30-08
                            • 3964

                            #14
                            Yeah just sounds like he doesnt have much cash because its not regular season for the smaller shops. But for someone who has an online gig set up, which costs like $50 a head a month I think, that shouldnt be the case. You'll probably get paid, but you experiencing this isnt out of the norm for smaller locals.
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                            • paco
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-07-09
                              • 62873

                              #15
                              Locals have lost lots of clients due to the boom of online offshore books which much better odds and different types of wagers. Myself went thru a local for 6 years before i joined sbr and realized online is much better. So along i took 12 of my buddies to online as well. Im sure my local was hurt by this move, and didnt have enuff losers to balance out winners and they eventually go broke and close
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                              • hoopster42
                                Restricted User
                                • 02-12-08
                                • 6099

                                #16
                                your bookie was probably stiffed a huge amount by one or more guys that lost their shirts and cannot pay
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                                • themajormt
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-30-08
                                  • 3964

                                  #17
                                  I was told once that if you want to be able to handle 100 guys action, with average bets of $250-$1k, you should have no less than $50k bankroll to be able to take some lumps and some guys slow playing you.

                                  JJ you agree with that figure?
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                                  • lakerboy
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-02-09
                                    • 94383

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by paco
                                    Locals have lost lots of clients due to the boom of online offshore books which much better odds and different types of wagers. Myself went thru a local for 6 years before i joined sbr and realized online is much better. So along i took 12 of my buddies to online as well. Im sure my local was hurt by this move, and didnt have enuff losers to balance out winners and they eventually go broke and close
                                    i have to disagree paco- with a local you can lose all week and make it back the night before. Online is bullshit.
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                                    • CashMoney
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-07-08
                                      • 1982

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      Sounds like a bubble gum bookmaker with no capital.
                                      Originally posted by themajormt
                                      Yeah just sounds like he doesnt have much cash because its not regular season for the smaller shops. But for someone who has an online gig set up, which costs like $50 a head a month I think, that shouldnt be the case. You'll probably get paid, but you experiencing this isnt out of the norm for smaller locals.
                                      Just pissed off that I have to fund a damn offshore sports book. Now I have to take the money that's sitting in my freakin drawer and send it out while I wait for this prick to cash me out. Why do I even bother???
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                                      • themajormt
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-30-08
                                        • 3964

                                        #20
                                        Haha LB... OR you can lose it even more the night before you have to settle up.

                                        I agree online blows locals out of the water. I still use a couple for the hell of it to see where lines are at and stuff but 80% is placed online. Plus you can put stuff in the night before or morning of and just sit back, not worrying about calling for the next set of lines or anything like that...
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                                        • themajormt
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-30-08
                                          • 3964

                                          #21
                                          Cash: Do you have any books already set up? I just got a 100% offer from a B book if you want it...
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                                          • CashMoney
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-07-08
                                            • 1982

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by hoopster42
                                            your bookie was probably stiffed a huge amount by one or more guys that lost their shirts and cannot pay
                                            I agree but WTF? Cash me out and let me go. I have to deal with this BS because he can't collect from deadbeat broke phuks??? If they can't pay he shouldn't be taking their action. #1 rule in business is know your customer.
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                                            • paco
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-07-09
                                              • 62873

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                                              i have to disagree paco- with a local you can lose all week and make it back the night before. Online is bullshit.
                                              Very bad theory. Only reason they have Monday Night Football is all the people to dig themselves in a deeper hole. Did u realize the o/u is always higher on the mnf games? Cuz they know the public is always in offensive mind. I know more people who doubled down on mnf and lost then people who broke even.
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                                              • lakerboy
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-02-09
                                                • 94383

                                                #24
                                                with my local if you dont pay up by friday you might as well kill yourself. I know a guy who woke up and his car was gone.i dont worry about paying them i have only payed on a friday 4 times in 7 years. i bet only a few games a week.
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                                                • CashMoney
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-07-08
                                                  • 1982

                                                  #25
                                                  Yeah I have an A book and B book.....just have to fund it.
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                                                  • lakerboy
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                    • 94383

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by paco
                                                    Very bad theory. Only reason they have Monday Night Football is all the people to dig themselves in a deeper hole. Did u realize the o/u is always higher on the mnf games? Cuz they know the public is always in offensive mind. I know more people who doubled down on mnf and lost then people who broke even.

                                                    paco i dont bet monday night or sunday night games. I usually bet 1 game at 1pm and if i win im done. i also like to bet games that are played in the midwest.
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                                                    • paco
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-07-09
                                                      • 62873

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                      paco i dont bet monday night or sunday night games. I usually bet 1 game at 1pm and if i win im done. i also like to bet games that are played in the midwest.
                                                      U are the few smart gamblers then
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                                                      • ABEHONEST
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 06-27-09
                                                        • 9470

                                                        #28
                                                        You sound like my kind of guy !
                                                        Are you interested in flying to COSTA RICA?
                                                        Beautiful country ,but a haven[possibly] for internet thieves?
                                                        If interested PM me !
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