Today, high limit BACCARAT in the high limit room at Hard Rock

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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #1
    Today, high limit BACCARAT in the high limit room at Hard Rock
    Going to find me a full table of asians and slowly but methodically grind away at $100 per hand in an effort to build my comps up.

    Actually a small lifetime winner at baccarat over the years using some of the principles employed by the great Lyle Stuart...............this without even taking the comp equation into consideration.

    I will report my results from todays session later this evening.........hope my luck is good.

    Probably will play only one or two shoes.

    FH
  • Reload
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-23-08
    • 12250

    #2
    Good luck, Fish! MONKEYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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    • wtf
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-22-08
      • 12983

      #3
      fh , come out to hong kong

      will goto macau with you

      might even meat a hooker or two (notice my clever spelling of meet)
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #4
        Originally posted by Reload
        Good luck, Fish! MONKEYYYYYYYYYYYY!


        Thanks, as always with this game, luck is the overriding factor.........but it does take good money management though.

        As stated, I use a couple theories and strategies that Lyle Stuart uses, and actually have been in the black ever since I first took up the game in the 80's...........again though, been way more lucky than good.

        FH
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #5
          Originally posted by wtf
          fh , come out to hong kong

          will goto macau with you

          might even meat a hooker or two (notice my clever spelling of meet)
          I can't drive to Hong Kong.........and the boat ride is to long.

          FH

          ps- I gave up flying last year.
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          • wtf
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-22-08
            • 12983

            #6
            i assume you can swim?
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #7
              Yesterday was another brutal day on the battlefield...........


              Poker....-550.....2-5 NL
              Slots.....-200 .....Progressive
              Sports... -65.....various all star wagers
              Blackjack +50........Wonging in and out
              Video Poker +90.....9/6 $2


              Haven't played baccarat in over five years and need a change of pace into a longterm -ev venture..............lol.


              FH
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              • Fishhead
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-11-05
                • 40179

                #8
                Back in a bit, headed to Panera Bread for coffee and a cupcake.

                Need to make a stop at the bank also to withdraw 5,000 for this venture.

                FH
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                • Casperwaits
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-25-06
                  • 5042

                  #9
                  Good Luck FH. I have been playing more and more baccarat. Great game.
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                  • SSLP
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-29-08
                    • 5232

                    #10
                    Fh your my hero pal
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                    • onthewhat
                      Restricted User
                      • 05-14-08
                      • 15411

                      #11
                      Get em Fishler
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                      • mathdotcom
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-24-08
                        • 11689

                        #12
                        FH why the fear of flying?
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Fishhead you seem well read on lots of gambling/ casino games.
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                          • Fishhead
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40179

                            #14
                            Lost 183 at Baccarat but was able to get away with only playing one hand of every 4-6 deals of the cards...........this can be considered an overlay longterm IF YOU TAKE COMPS INTO CONSIDERATION. I know what I lost "on paper" and i asked what my comp value was after playing. Nice grind and I enjoyed playing and talking to the asian contingent at my table.........good people.


                            Video Poker........+300
                            2-5 NL Poker......+10


                            A winning day, something that has been rare lately............I will take the very small win and hope to turn it into a positive winning streak.

                            FH
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                            • Reload
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-23-08
                              • 12250

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                              Lost 183 at Baccarat but was able to get away with only playing one hand of every 4-6 deals of the cards...........this can be considered an overlay longterm IF YOU TAKE COMPS INTO CONSIDERATION. I know what I lost "on paper" and i asked what my comp value was after playing. Nice grind and I enjoyed playing and talking to the asian contingent at my table.........good people.


                              Video Poker........+300
                              2-5 NL Poker......+10


                              A winning day, something that has been rare lately............I will take the very small win and hope to turn it into a positive winning streak.

                              FH
                              Those are some smooth results, Fish! Definitely is an advantage for comps if you can skip some hands and not have that factored out.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                Lost 183 at Baccarat but was able to get away with only playing one hand of every 4-6 deals of the cards...........this can be considered an overlay longterm IF YOU TAKE COMPS INTO CONSIDERATION. I know what I lost "on paper" and i asked what my comp value was after playing. Nice grind and I enjoyed playing and talking to the asian contingent at my table.........good people.


                                Video Poker........+300
                                2-5 NL Poker......+10


                                A winning day, something that has been rare lately............I will take the very small win and hope to turn it into a positive winning streak.

                                FH

                                Fishhead you have an edge being the banker, YOU KNOW THIS
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                                • Flight
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-28-09
                                  • 1979

                                  #17
                                  What strategies do you use on Baccarat?

                                  I play the game a lot, but when I play, I stick to flat betting, discipline (no doubling up) and 100% banker bets (never the tie or the dragon or the yadda yadda)

                                  I see all the Asians marking cards and guessing this way and that way, saying that Player is due or Banker is due. I think due is a fallacy and each hand is independent. I count at blackjack and would like to know how to apply counting to Bacc.

                                  Ever play EZ Bacc? No commission which is nice but it's faster. In practice, I think the game is the same speed, at least I don't notice.
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                                  • Fishhead
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #18
                                    Read any of everything you can get your hands on written by the late Lyle Stuart on Baccarat..............love his writing and ideas.

                                    Yes, Banker is your best value bet, but only slightly over the Player.

                                    With an edge of over 1% for the house, it is very tough to come out ahead in the longterm..............the only way to somewhat do this is to manipulate the comp system, which I will be attempting to achieve here.

                                    I will keep a running record of my play at the HR in Tampa and post the results here. I keep detailed records, so this should be interesting. Off to a bad start after todays losing session........hopefully I can rebound.



                                    I MAINLY PLAY THIS GAME FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT VALUE, LET'S MAKE THAT CLEAR FROM THE ONSET.

                                    FH
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                                    • curious
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 07-20-07
                                      • 9093

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Flight
                                      What strategies do you use on Baccarat?

                                      I play the game a lot, but when I play, I stick to flat betting, discipline (no doubling up) and 100% banker bets (never the tie or the dragon or the yadda yadda)

                                      I see all the Asians marking cards and guessing this way and that way, saying that Player is due or Banker is due. I think due is a fallacy and each hand is independent. I count at blackjack and would like to know how to apply counting to Bacc.

                                      Ever play EZ Bacc? No commission which is nice but it's faster. In practice, I think the game is the same speed, at least I don't notice.
                                      Counting doesn't help in baccarat. Something that might help with the tie bet and the dragon bet is keeping track of the denominations and looking for a situation where several denominations are completely gone so that the deck has a high % of 0 valued cards.

                                      The best situation is where there are a high % of 0, 8, and 9 valued cards. Then you are betting that the bank will get 0 and you will get 8 or 9 and hit that juicy 10-1 or 30-1 payoff.

                                      I couldn't find anyone who ran the statistics on the EV with given denominations missing from the deck. Should be easy enough to do.

                                      The same principle applies to the tie bet. If the deck is mostly the same cards then the probability of a tie increases. This only happens a few hands every few hundred shoes so when it does happen you have to put out a table max bet. I did find people who had done the research on the probabilities of the tie bet if the remaining cards are mostly 0 valued cards.

                                      There have been teams that beat baccarat this way. The person marking the charts plays the hundreds of hands until the deck is favorable and then signals the big player who comes in betting table max on the tie bet.

                                      I'm sure people are doing the same with the dragon bet.
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                                      • pimike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 03-23-08
                                        • 37140

                                        #20
                                        Its funny I can't spell. However when it comes to the game I love most. Bacarrat I sure know how to spell that.

                                        Not two c's but two r's.


                                        Anyways this is a great game and easy to win. Last years Bash I won thousands at the Golden Nugget.
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