SBR Lines unveils new feature: consensus numbers!

[jjgold]

SBR Odds might rival paid services this year.

The goal is to knock out the paid services

[nosniboR11]

SBR Odds is the best on the web, good job on the update

[durito]

We went with the 24-hour standard simply as a means of saving space within the grid. We had been working under the impression that our users, sharp bettors nearly all, could readily perform the 12h/24h conversion with minimal expenditure of brain power.

A bit presumptuous don't you think?

[VegasDave]

A bit presumptuous don't you think?

By phrasing it that way future people will be less likely to complain since they don't want to be the one's that "lack the brain power"

Ganch, isnt 7:05p the same amount of character space as 19:05?

It isn't a major deterrent, but I agree with Bob, I like just seeing the game time.

[Bill Dozer]

Reverse line movement (RLM) is a clear indication of who the sharps are on. If over 60% of the public is on one team, yet the line moves the opposite way, it is not the squares that are moving the line.

Add to that maybe there is an injury/suspension.

[Ganchrow]

Ganch, isnt 7:05p the same amount of character space as 19:05?

Well sussed, but consider 10:20p versus 20:20. Every pixel counts.

It's obviously not a huge deal, but if it's really important to our American players we can certainly add a 12h/24h option even at the expense of slightly more clutter.

[Dark Horse]

Every pixel counts.

20/20 hindsight.

[Ganchrow]

20/20 hindsight.

And foresight.

[Dark Horse]

20/20 foresight! I'm feeling it!

[rake922]

How come so many are blank?



It's not only NFL. Before the MLB all star break there were many blanks as well for MLB totals and moneylines

[Fishhead]

SBR Odds might rival paid services this year.

The goal is to knock out the paid services

[losturmarbles]

@rake
i would guess the lines have to meet a volume quota before they release the %.

i'm also guessing the percentage updates with any line move and also after different levels or thresholds of volume.

Consensus Line History:
Atlanta Braves vs Colorado Rockies

07/12 01:13 68% / 32% +127 / -137
07/12 02:31 35% / 65%
07/12 04:21 49% / 51%
07/12 05:02 32% / 68%
07/12 08:13 49% / 51%
07/12 08:19 30% / 70% +125 / -135
07/12 10:42 31% / 69% +125 / -135
07/12 10:51 34% / 66% +127 / -137
07/12 11:05 33% / 67%
07/12 12:01 49% / 51%
07/12 12:01 33% / 67%
07/12 12:05 49% / 51%
07/12 12:07 33% / 67%
07/12 12:21 49% / 51%
07/12 13:00 37% / 63% +126 / -136
07/12 13:09 49% / 51%
07/12 13:31 37% / 63%
07/12 14:44 39% / 61% +132 / -142
07/12 14:52 38% / 62% +135 / -145

[jjgold]

Where are the percentages from?

Consensus books or just one book?

[SBR Lou]

Where are the percentages from?

Consensus books or just one book?

The consensus is provided by 5Dimes.

[jjgold]

We need more books

5 Dimes is good but we need a place like carib and jamaica also to give us a better indication of numbers

[rake922]

@rake
i would guess the lines have to meet a volume quota before they release the %.

i'm also guessing the percentage updates with any line move and also after different levels or thresholds of volume.

Consensus Line History:
Atlanta Braves vs Colorado Rockies

07/12 01:13 68% / 32% +127 / -137
07/12 02:31 35% / 65%
07/12 04:21 49% / 51%
07/12 05:02 32% / 68%
07/12 08:13 49% / 51%
07/12 08:19 30% / 70% +125 / -135
07/12 10:42 31% / 69% +125 / -135
07/12 10:51 34% / 66% +127 / -137
07/12 11:05 33% / 67%
07/12 12:01 49% / 51%
07/12 12:01 33% / 67%
07/12 12:05 49% / 51%
07/12 12:07 33% / 67%
07/12 12:21 49% / 51%
07/12 13:00 37% / 63% +126 / -136
07/12 13:09 49% / 51%
07/12 13:31 37% / 63%
07/12 14:44 39% / 61% +132 / -142
07/12 14:52 38% / 62% +135 / -145

whoa how did you get that data from 7/12/09 ?

[Reload]

I would assume it is total bets since some of the line moves at 5 Dimes go against the percentages.

I agree with this, LT. WNBA lines can especially move a whole point even with 1K in bets at 5Dimes, and often the action can stay that unbalanced until the tip even with many smaller wagers the other way.

[losturmarbles]

whoa how did you get that data from 7/12/09 ?

i just havent closed my browser since the other day (or refreshed it)

if you just leave it be, it will update on it's on. i can go back and pull up the rl,ml,total for mlb for the past couple of days.

im assuming you seen where it says consenus history after you click on a matchup.

it will bring that up.

i havent really looked at the consensus much, but i noticed the game that i posted it's hard to figure out what they are doing to get the percentage they are posting.

07/12 01:13 68% / 32% +127 / -137
07/12 02:31 35% / 65%
07/12 04:21 49% / 51%
07/12 05:02 32% / 68%
07/12 08:13 49% / 51%
07/12 08:19 30% / 70% +125 / -135
07/12 10:42 31% / 69% +125 / -135
07/12 10:51 34% / 66% +127 / -137
07/12 11:05 33% / 67%
07/12 12:01 49% / 51%
07/12 12:01 33% / 67%
07/12 12:05 49% / 51%
07/12 12:07 33% / 67%
07/12 12:21 49% / 51%
07/12 13:00 37% / 63% +126 / -136
07/12 13:09 49% / 51%
07/12 13:31 37% / 63%
07/12 14:44 39% / 61% +132 / -142
07/12 14:52 38% / 62% +135 / -145

notice the time stamp and how much the % changes and how it toggles back and forth between 2 different sets of %s

i dunno, i think it's a bit fishy or the program doing the counting is a bit buggy.

if you remove the % changes inbetween line changes it doesnt look abnormal.

07/12 01:13 68% / 32% +127 / -137
07/12 08:19 30% / 70% +125 / -135
07/12 10:42 31% / 69% +125 / -135
07/12 10:51 34% / 66% +127 / -137
07/12 13:00 37% / 63% +126 / -136
07/12 14:44 39% / 61% +132 / -142
07/12 14:52 38% / 62% +135 / -145

i dunno.

[sickler]

bump for Head Strong

[rake922]

I don't believe the data now, and am assuming it's a tool used by 5dimes to throw all of us off

Look at this example for Twins/Rangers

at 09:47 Consensus was 59% for Rangers
at 10:08 Consensus was 70% for Rangers

[rake922]

I don't believe the data now, and am assuming it's a tool used by 5dimes to throw all of us off

Look at this example for Twins/Rangers

at 09:47 Consensus was 59% for Rangers
at 10:08 Consensus was 70% for Rangers

at 10:27 Consensus was 59% for Rangers

[losturmarbles]

07/17 01:23 37% / 63% +114 / -119
07/17 02:04 39% / 61% +105 / -115
07/17 09:46 30% / 70% +110 / -120
07/17 09:47 41% / 59%
07/17 10:08 30% / 70%
07/17 10:26 29% / 71% +115 / -125
07/17 10:27 41% / 59%
07/17 12:29 34% / 66% +113 / -123
07/17 12:39 41% / 59%
07/17 12:59 34% / 66%
07/17 15:36 37% / 63%

again if you just look at the consensus numbers when there is a line change it doesnt look fishy.

here's the graph from the free sports options feed:

[Nicky Santoro]

is there a way we can remove the consensus column off the screen? there's too much clutter on the screen and to some of us, it is info we don't really need.

how can i remove the consenusus column? thanks..

[fsugolf]

I like the consensus features


oh and first post!!