Montreal will finish in 10th place in the East next season.

[Deuce]

Count it.

This team is dismal now. Everyone has left. Crickets are chirping in the Habs front offices. Team is a wreck.

[betplom]

This team is dismal now. Everyone has left. Crickets are chirping in the Habs front offices. Team is a wreck.

You forgot to mention - life is good.

[VegasDave]

Everyone has left?

Did you forget the additions they made?

I don't think they are built very well for the playoffs, but I don't know that I see 9 teams finishing in front of them either.

[dwaechte]

Not gonna happen.

[betplom]

Everyone has left?

Did you forget the additions they made?

I don't think they are built very well for the playoffs, but I don't know that I see 9 teams finishing in front of them either.

Dave, I believe Deuce is simply pointing out that this club (the Montreal Canadiens) is headed in the wrong direction.

They seem to cling to their old star players (now management) in an attempt to relive the glory days, Gainey seems to be incompetent but he is so adored it seems he has carte blanche to fvck up as long as he wants.

Nothing makes me happier than watching the Habs slide into oblivion.

The Habs are defiitely NOT built for the playoffs, should they qualify.

[Deuce]

Everyone has left?

Did you forget the additions they made?

I don't think they are built very well for the playoffs, but I don't know that I see 9 teams finishing in front of them either.

The addition of Scott Gomez? Please share more.

Losses:

Koivu
Higgins
Janik
Komisarek
Kovalev





Additions:
Cammilleri
Darche
Gil
Gionta
Spacek
Gomez

The losses are lopsided compared to additons.

[mathdotcom]

Deuce how do you know they are done adding?

[VegasDave]

The addition of Scott Gomez? Please share more.

Losses:

Koivu
Higgins
Janik
Komisarek
Kovalev

Additions:
Cammilleri
Darche
Gil
Gionta
Spacek
Gomez

The losses are lopsided compared to additons.

Dave, I believe Deuce is simply pointing out that this club (the Montreal Canadiens) is headed in the wrong direction.

No, I think Deuce is making Red Wing and American hockey fans in general look bad when he says that the addition of Scott Gomez is the only noteworthy one.

Mike Cammalleri is a point-per-game player when healthy and is good for 30-35 goals easily.

Brian Gionta is a consistent 20 goal scorer and a good leader with championship experience.

Hal Gill was a good addition as well...

Montreal IS going in the wrong direction, Camm, Gomez, and Gionta are all small and come playoff time they are not going to be tough enough to prevail. But this team on talent alone is very likely to make the playoffs and the comment that "Crickets are chirping in the Habs front office" makes no sense considering they had one of the loudest offseasons of any team in the league.

I thought Deuce knew a lot more about hockey before he started trying to talk about it. Stick to the Wings, Deuce.

[mathdotcom]

Doesnt everyone in eastern conference make playoffs?

[dwaechte]

Saying Gomez was the only noteworthy addition is insane.

[Deuce]

No, I think Deuce is making Red Wing and American hockey fans in general look bad when he says that the addition of Scott Gomez is the only noteworthy one.

Mike Cammalleri is a point-per-game player when healthy and is good for 30-35 goals easily.

Brian Gionta is a consistent 20 goal scorer and a good leader with championship experience.

Hal Gill was a good addition as well...

Montreal IS going in the wrong direction, Camm, Gomez, and Gionta are all small and come playoff time they are not going to be tough enough to prevail. But this team on talent alone is very likely to make the playoffs and the comment that "Crickets are chirping in the Habs front office" makes no sense considering they had one of the loudest offseasons of any team in the league.

I thought Deuce knew a lot more about hockey before he started trying to talk about it. Stick to the Wings, Deuce.

I actually know NHL hockey quite well and when you lose Kovalev and Koivu in which are your leaders you're in rough shape. Since you like to yell Red Wings every time I speak, I would say it is much in the same if they lost Zetterberg and Datsyuk. It's a blow to the team. They struggled a lot towards the end of the year, the Habs that is, and this is not a good off season for them at all. I don't get what you're trying to say. Sure Cammi and Gomez are good players but they don't make up for a leadership loss.

[Matt Rain]

My biggest concern is that we lost the core of our team. This will be a completely different team next season - right now, it's impossible to predict how it'll turn out. Should make for an interesting season.

[Deuce]

My biggest concern is that we lost the core of our team. This will be a completely different team next season - right now, it's impossible to predict how it'll turn out. Should make for an interesting season.

Thank you for being a Habs fan and stressing my point. We'll see what VD has to say now.

[VegasDave]

I actually know NHL hockey quite well and when you lose Kovalev and Koivu in which are your leaders you're in rough shape. Since you like to yell Red Wings every time I speak, I would say it is much in the same if they lost Zetterberg and Datsyuk. It's a blow to the team. They struggled a lot towards the end of the year, the Habs that is, and this is not a good off season for them at all. I don't get what you're trying to say. Sure Cammi and Gomez are good players but they don't make up for a leadership loss.

Fair enough... it may be that you know the NHL quite well but didn't articulate your points that clearly. Had you mentioned anything about leadership in your opening post, I probably wouldn't have said anything.

That said, I wouldn't put Koivu and Kovalev in the same category of leadership. Koivu was a true leader. Kovalev is known for being lazy and taking shifts off, not exactly the 100% effort type that Koivu is.

[VegasDave]

My biggest concern is that we lost the core of our team. This will be a completely different team next season - right now, it's impossible to predict how it'll turn out. Should make for an interesting season.

Thank you for being a Habs fan and stressing my point. We'll see what VD has to say now.

Oh, was that your point? I AGREE with Matt's point that it will be a different team next year and it is almost impossible to predict the outcome of the season.

You're comment;

Thread Title: Montreal will finish 10th place in the East next season
First words of post: Count it

Doesn't exactly seem that your point is that Montreal may have a great season or they may have a terrible season... you seemed pretty damn sure they were missing the playoffs. How did Matt saying this team is tough to figure out stress your point exactly?

[Matt Rain]

I do agree with Deuce that our losses seem bigger than our additions, for the simple reason that a good hockey team is always more than the sum of its parts - we had a solid core, no matter how bad we may have looked during the last half of the season. Replacing all these guys with random, yet talented elements is a huge gamble. Never mind the fact that Carey Price is damaged goods now - I despise the kid's dumb-slash-cocky attitude. Hope we get rid of him during the season.

All things considered, we're probably more likely to finish 10th than 3rd or 4th.

[Deuce]

Oh, was that your point? I AGREE with Matt's point that it will be a different team next year and it is almost impossible to predict the outcome of the season.

You're comment;

Thread Title: Montreal will finish 10th place in the East next season
First words of post: Count it

Doesn't exactly seem that your point is that Montreal may have a great season or they may have a terrible season... you seemed pretty damn sure they were missing the playoffs. How did Matt saying this team is tough to figure out stress your point exactly?

Losing leadership and dealing with a much tougher Eastern Conference.

Teams that are stronger:
Pittsburgh
Philly
Toronto
New York

Of course 4 teams being stronger doesn't count them out automatically but the fact that two of the stronger teams now in the conference come out of their division, it makes it that much tougher to make the playoffs IMO.

[VegasDave]

Losing leadership and dealing with a much tougher Eastern Conference.

Teams that are stronger:
Pittsburgh
Philly
Toronto
New York

Of course 4 teams being stronger doesn't count them out automatically but the fact that two of the stronger teams now in the conference come out of their division, it makes it that much tougher to make the playoffs IMO.

I think you are giving Toronto way too much credit too soon... I personally don't see 9 teams that are better than the Canadians on paper this year.

[element1286]

Montreal should sneak into the playoffs, but Gainey has ruined that franchise for the long run. The team has no continuity, it is just a bunch of mis-matched veterans thrown together to make a team, the absolute worst way to build a winner.

[Matt Rain]

Montreal should sneak into the playoffs, but Gainey has ruined that franchise for the long run. The team has no continuity, it is just a bunch of mis-matched veterans thrown together to make a team, the absolute worst way to build a winner.

I unfortunately agree.

[mathdotcom]

The fact that the stronger teams are in their division doesn't mean anything. Montreal is never winning their division anyways. I see a strong showing from Toronto this year.