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  • Miavia
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-12-15
    • 401

    #1226
    Originally posted by eaglesfan44
    Jeeze looks like Indiana State stayed in Hawaii
    Man....I can't bet on this damn team anymore....Just ugly.
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    • willieteal
      SBR Hustler
      • 11-23-10
      • 91

      #1227
      Makes you think

      I'm looking at this 46-12 half-time score and thinking is this a legalization makes it easier to point shave issue?.




      BTW, I remember a game where LSU had North Carolina down 21-9 at the half. But Dale Brown was the coach and that lead was quickly erased about 5 minutes into the second.
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #1228
        Good god guys, I’m sorry for this disaster today. Looks like the fact that Hawaii tourney was more than a week ago made no difference as both bucknell and Indiana st obviously did not bring their best efforts. I really thought that much time since the tourney would make it not important but clearly that wasn’t the case.,

        Bucknell came out and scored 13 fukkin 1st half points against a really bad army defense. It’s hard to regret that play after seeing them win the 2nd half 51-26!! That what the whole damn game should have looked like!! Just fell too far behind and end up winning by 1 and losing the spread by 3. Crazy.

        Obviously Indiana st was playing a better team so there was no rebounding from a 12 point 1st half by them (just sick). They played the 2nd half virtually even so I think it pretty fair to say coming off the Hawaii trip absolutely effected both teams more than I realized. Good call by capy as that was clearly the case in these 2 Games.,,

        We had the sooners/ku game pegged to a tee I think but ended up not even making a play. As I mentioned was just waiting to see if we could get more points before hitting under and I never got back to it. Just dumb.

        The one bright spot was the Texas/k-st was the shitfesst we expected and stayed well under.,

        Hopefully we can get the over in Nevada.

        I hope some got a better number than me on Nebraska as I saw some +2s and 2.5s after I had already played them +1.5., don’t think this was a bad play but have to check the box score and play by play last few minutes as I stepped away and didn’t get to see the end..

        Nothing more I can say, tonight hurt. I’ll try and do better 2marro.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #1229
          Originally posted by willieteal
          I'm looking at this 46-12 half-time score and thinking is this a legalization makes it easier to point shave issue?.




          BTW, I remember a game where LSU had North Carolina down 21-9 at the half. But Dale Brown was the coach and that lead was quickly erased about 5 minutes into the second.
          The 2 teams we played coming off the Hawaii tourney scored a combined 25 damn points in the 1st half., unreal. I don’t think it was point shaving I think Capy was right and they appeared to still be day dreaming of tropical beaches I guess. Both come out and play respectable 2nd halves, bucknell even winning but not covering but they obviously had a much weaker opponent than the sycamores who ain’t gonna be able to overcome a half like that.,
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          • frankieunits2685
            SBR MVP
            • 11-19-17
            • 3575

            #1230
            Originally posted by 2daBank
            Good god guys, I’m sorry for this disaster today. Looks like the fact that Hawaii tourney was more than a week ago made no difference as both bucknell and Indiana st obviously did not bring their best efforts. I really thought that much time since the tourney would make it not important but clearly that wasn’t the case.,

            Bucknell came out and scored 13 fukkin 1st half points against a really bad army defense. It’s hard to regret that play after seeing them win the 2nd half 51-26!! That what the whole damn game should have looked like!! Just fell too far behind and end up winning by 1 and losing the spread by 3. Crazy.

            Obviously Indiana st was playing a better team so there was no rebounding from a 12 point 1st half by them (just sick). They played the 2nd half virtually even so I think it pretty fair to say coming off the Hawaii trip absolutely effected both teams more than I realized. Good call by capy as that was clearly the case in these 2 Games.,,

            We had the sooners/ku game pegged to a tee I think but ended up not even making a play. As I mentioned was just waiting to see if we could get more points before hitting under and I never got back to it. Just dumb.

            The one bright spot was the Texas/k-st was the shitfesst we expected and stayed well under.,

            Hopefully we can get the over in Nevada.

            I hope some got a better number than me on Nebraska as I saw some +2s and 2.5s after I had already played them +1.5., don’t think this was a bad play but have to check the box score and play by play last few minutes as I stepped away and didn’t get to see the end..

            Nothing more I can say, tonight hurt. I’ll try and do better 2marro.
            Thanks, for all your time and effort buddy. It’s much appreciated. Tomorrow is going to be a great day!
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #1231
              Originally posted by frankieunits2685
              Thanks, for all your time and effort buddy. It’s much appreciated. Tomorrow is going to be a great day!
              My pleasure. I love talking this stuff w ya’ll. Not so much on a day like today, lol.

              Feel like I’m even more aggravated that bucknell dominated the second half and won without covering. Fukkin pricks just showed us what could have been if they didn’t sleep walk thru the 1st half. I can’t wait to look at that box score to piss me off some more! Can’t imagine any team has ever been held to 13 in 20 minutes vs freaking army?! Not only are they bad defensively but they also play really fast so can only imagine how bad bucknell shooting percentage was or how many turnovers they had?
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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #1232
                Originally posted by eaglesfan44
                Jeeze looks like Indiana State stayed in Hawaii
                Both of them did. As me and Capy discussed I really believed the fact it been over a week since that tourney and both their opponents were on longer layoffs that it wouldn’t be a factor. Clearly I was wrong.

                Guess I’m just gonna chalk it up as a costly lesson and add it to my notebook, NO PLAYING TEAMS THEIR 1ST GAME BACK FROM HAWAII TOURNEY NO MATTER HOW MUCH TIME HAS LAPSED!!!
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                • Joey Vigs
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-10-18
                  • 1425

                  #1233
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  Good god guys, I’m sorry for this disaster today. Looks like the fact that Hawaii tourney was more than a week ago made no difference as both bucknell and Indiana st obviously did not bring their best efforts. I really thought that much time since the tourney would make it not important but clearly that wasn’t the case.,

                  Bucknell came out and scored 13 fukkin 1st half points against a really bad army defense. It’s hard to regret that play after seeing them win the 2nd half 51-26!! That what the whole damn game should have looked like!! Just fell too far behind and end up winning by 1 and losing the spread by 3. Crazy.

                  Obviously Indiana st was playing a better team so there was no rebounding from a 12 point 1st half by them (just sick). They played the 2nd half virtually even so I think it pretty fair to say coming off the Hawaii trip absolutely effected both teams more than I realized. Good call by capy as that was clearly the case in these 2 Games.,,

                  We had the sooners/ku game pegged to a tee I think but ended up not even making a play. As I mentioned was just waiting to see if we could get more points before hitting under and I never got back to it. Just dumb.

                  The one bright spot was the Texas/k-st was the shitfesst we expected and stayed well under.,

                  Hopefully we can get the over in Nevada.

                  I hope some got a better number than me on Nebraska as I saw some +2s and 2.5s after I had already played them +1.5., don’t think this was a bad play but have to check the box score and play by play last few minutes as I stepped away and didn’t get to see the end..

                  Nothing more I can say, tonight hurt. I’ll try and do better 2marro.
                  Shit happens pal. Don’t even sweat it. I will say tonight would have Been easier to swallow if I was on the 4 winners last night, but that’s my fault. Hard for me to look at college basketball with football going on. You’ll bounce back tomorrow. You have nothing to apologize for. People tail at their own risk and this is gambling.
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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #1234
                    Didn't have the best day either Banker.

                    It happens.

                    Back at it tomorrow. I'll chime in.

                    Here's that Technical value Fund that I've played so far...

                    Originally posted by KVB
                    ...NCAAB Technical Value Fund has picked up...

                    605 3-Jan IOWA +8 (-105)
                    612 MIAMI +3 (-105)
                    682 MANHATTAN +3.5 (-105)
                    685 MERCER +8 (-105)
                    707 JACKSONVILLE ST +7.5 (-105)
                    ...


                    Originally posted by KVB
                    The KVB NCAAB Technical Value Fund will track NCAAB plays derived from a stacking percentages forecast that is enhanced by a few technical, statistical tweaks. The forecast with these adjustments, when compared to the market, give us another decent spread opportunity throughout the seasons.

                    This Fund will also be comprised of underdogs, exploiting some of the public thirst for favorites, but gets its plays mainly from focusing more on the weightings of a few specific areas. These areas include defensive stats like field goal %, forced turnovers per game, opponents free throws, etc, and combine them with things like pace to find those teams that are just better than the number indicates and control the game more than the betting market realizes...
                    That description is basically the write up...lol.

                    Also hit these...

                    Originally posted by KVB
                    ...NCAAB Visiting Value Fund has picked up...

                    613 3-Jan WRIGHT ST -4.5 (-105)
                    623 WILLIAM & MARY -1 (-105)
                    645 YOUNGSTOWN ST +12.5 (-105)
                    ...
                    Also eyeing Illinois and Cal both as 12 pt Dogs in that Fund.

                    The description is the write up, but it's a bit longer...



                    Good Luck Banker!!!!1

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                    • MikeTizzy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-09-12
                      • 1192

                      #1235
                      Bankerz! I'm gonna join in here with deeper hidden values, unknown moves, assigning proper valuations, and situations, i do those well. Welcome to conference play. Let's tread and be maticulous with the details.
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                      • Capybara
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-17-08
                        • 11803

                        #1236
                        FYI, Bank, we've got a chance to work that Hawaii angle tonight with a Colorado fade. Zona 1h -3. Or full game -6.

                        Also Charlotte, but they're playing at home. But still. WKU -4 / -8.
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                        • survive
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-08-11
                          • 2388

                          #1237
                          Im back to college ball now that bowl season is over. Liking the under in penn st/michigan
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                          • frankieunits2685
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-19-17
                            • 3575

                            #1238
                            Originally posted by Capybara
                            FYI, Bank, we've got a chance to work that Hawaii angle tonight with a Colorado fade. Zona 1h -3. Or full game -6.

                            Also Charlotte, but they're playing at home. But still. WKU -4 / -8.
                            Wku, AZ looking good. Waiting to see what banker and a few others think!!
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #1239
                              Originally posted by Capybara
                              FYI, Bank, we've got a chance to work that Hawaii angle tonight with a Colorado fade. Zona 1h -3. Or full game -6.

                              Also Charlotte, but they're playing at home. But still. WKU -4 / -8.
                              Yea I was just looking at zona Colorado and thinking same thing., I’ll post something on it shortly and also take a look at the char game (they are incredibly bad anyways so def will think bout angles to be against them or under since they trying to copy uva packline from looks of it, obviously not successfully but they are slow and should have teams playing slow)..
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                              • 2ndchance
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-14-17
                                • 1056

                                #1240
                                Number one scoring team in the nation getting 14.5 points to Wofford which is alright but can play bad at times. Think I would take a chance on citadel to cover that big number what do you think? M/L is worth a shot for little.
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #1241
                                  Pen st/Michigan under 128

                                  Always a fan of big10 grind it out affairs and this looks like a textbook one here.. no secret bout Michigan, they play some of the best defense I’ve seen in the country this year and they also among the slowest pace teams in the country sporting a adjusted tempo that ranks 334th!!

                                  What some may not know is pen st playing some upper level defense in their own right. 24th in the country in defensive efficiency and coming in at 256th in tempo.

                                  The closest thing the nittany lions have faced in pace and defensive efficiency was a game at Maryland where the could only muster 59 points in a 7 point loss. Michigan plays slower than the Terps and obviously they play better defense overall. Don’t expect to see pen st scoring much more than 50 in this contest! (Possibly 55 at most).

                                  On the other side the closest Michigan has faced to the defensive ability and tempo of pen st was a game at NW where they escaped with a 62-60 win. I think at home wolverines prob be good for a few more here but don’t see them reaching 70, somewhere from 65-69 is where i have them. Add it all up and think we see a score similar to Texas/k-st where it takes everything both have to get this above 120 and not much more..
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #1242
                                    Arizona 1st half -3

                                    Fukk these teams off the Hawaii tourney. That all., lol

                                    Well there is more. This buffs team has only won 3 conf road games the last couple years. 1 pac-12 road win last season at UCLA.
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #1243
                                      Pac 12 having a tough year already.

                                      This from ESPN Dec 29th...

                                      With five losses on Saturday's schedule, the men's college basketball season went from bad to worse for the Pac-12, which is assured of the worst December by a major conference in the past 20 years.

                                      Coming off a winless NCAA tournament last March, the Pac-12 will be the first of the Power 5 conferences plus the Big East to finish December with a win percentage below .600 in the past two decades.

                                      2018 Pac-12 .514 38-36
                                      2003 Big Ten .605 46-30
                                      2009 Pac-10 .613 38-24
                                      2011 Pac-12 .623 43-26
                                      2012 SEC .628 49-29
                                      Just unreal.
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #1244
                                        Banker, I'm up to 14 plays between those two strategies.

                                        Big days like this sometimes get me nervous. They usually go as expected, never go super well, and sometimes go really shitty.

                                        But who am I to decided which ones of these plays will win and which will lose...the bane of volume betting.



                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        The NCAAB Visiting Value Fund has picked up...
                                        609 3-Jan MARSHALL +7.5 (-105)
                                        615 ILLINOIS +11 (-105)
                                        633 APP ST +1.5 (-105)
                                        665 CAL +10.5 (-105)
                                        I have missed the line movement on virtually all of these plays...

                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        The NCAAB Visiting Value Fund has picked up...
                                        609 3-Jan MARSHALL +7.5 (-105)
                                        615 ILLINOIS +11 (-105)
                                        633 APP ST +1.5 (-105)
                                        665 CAL +10.5 (-105)
                                        I have missed the line movement on virtually all of these plays...
                                        Sorry to clutter the thread Banker, just thought I'd share what was going to be a sizeable day of Hoops bets.

                                        Good Luck, Good Sir.

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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #1245
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          Banker, I'm up to 14 plays between those two strategies.

                                          Big days like this sometimes get me nervous. They usually go as expected, never go super well, and sometimes go really shitty.

                                          But who am I to decided which ones of these plays will win and which will lose...the bane of volume betting.








                                          Sorry to clutter the thread Banker, just thought I'd share what was going to be a sizeable day of Hoops bets.

                                          Good Luck, Good Sir.

                                          Lol. I wouldn’t stress too much. 14 plays a pretty typical Saturday for me the next few months!!

                                          Rare I get to that many on weekdays but bottom line as you know our goal is to get down on as many as possible where we feel there a edge!!

                                          I’m busy trying to learn bitcoin since im a dummy!! So doubt I’m gonna have a ton of plays as I am capping in between learning this stuff and with my old lady being a royal pain in my ass, oh and we have ppl coming over for dinner so trying to help w that!! You have any idea how hard it is to be doing math in my head (capping games) when you have a woman nagging about a whole bunch of meaningless trivial crap?!!??!?!!!!!???
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                                          • darkghost
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-19-05
                                            • 1721

                                            #1246
                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                            Lol. I wouldn’t stress too much. 14 plays a pretty typical Saturday for me the next few months!!

                                            Rare I get to that many on weekdays but bottom line as you know our goal is to get down on as many as possible where we feel there a edge!!

                                            I’m busy trying to learn bitcoin since im a dummy!! So doubt I’m gonna have a ton of plays as I am capping in between learning this stuff and with my old lady being a royal pain in my ass, oh and we have ppl coming over for dinner so trying to help w that!! You have any idea how hard it is to be doing math in my head (capping games) when you have a woman nagging about a whole bunch of meaningless trivial crap?!!??!?!!!!!???
                                            You just described my life. Lol. My wife does the exact same thing!
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                                            • 2daBank
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-26-09
                                              • 88966

                                              #1247
                                              Originally posted by darkghost
                                              You just described my life. Lol. My wife does the exact same thing!
                                              To make matters worse we were moving vehicles around and discovered the vans taillight our and it not damn bulb. It gonna be short card on early Games for me. Trying to get my buddy to fix this!! As I type!Lol
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #1248
                                                So far;

                                                Psu/mich under 128
                                                Arizona 1st half -3
                                                Miami +3
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                                                • 2daBank
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 88966

                                                  #1249
                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                  So far;

                                                  Psu/mich under 128
                                                  Arizona 1st half -3
                                                  Miami +3
                                                  Illinois/Indiana over 142 ev
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                                                  • 2daBank
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 88966

                                                    #1250
                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank

                                                    So far;

                                                    Psu/mich under 128
                                                    Arizona 1st half -3
                                                    Miami +3

                                                    Illinois/Indiana over 142 ev
                                                    Pen st +11
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                                                    • eaglesfan44
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 11-25-18
                                                      • 140

                                                      #1251
                                                      Missed layup by Penn state at the end there hurt
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #1252
                                                        Omg. Anyone catch the ending of psu/Michigan?

                                                        I just walked in door right on time to see that unreal ending. 1st pen st like assholes decides to play the foul game w minute left down 10, ok I guess fine. Then down 11 or 12 they miss about 6 shots in a row! Then foul again with under 30 seconds (give up already!). So Michigan only hits 1 ft. Psu kid goes length of court and has uncontested bunny at the rim and little prick doesn’t even hit the rim! Unreal, shoulda cash under and side.
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #1253
                                                          Originally posted by eaglesfan44
                                                          Missed layup by Penn state at the end there hurt
                                                          I generally don’t play dogs of 8 or less unless I feel they have ok shot at winning, or in other words expect it to be tightly contested enough we don’t get foul game (or maybe only last trip when clock under 30 seconds).

                                                          What I like bout playing dd spreads is cause theoretically won’t see lot of foul game when game basically decided when team holding 8-9 point lead under 30 seconds!! Hate when a team drags out one once it clear they beat.

                                                          Going back to huskers yesterday now psu and canes I’m on streak of teams that in good position basically 35+ minutes then falling apart on me., ugh
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                                                          • krk1030
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 08-13-08
                                                            • 17610

                                                            #1254
                                                            Its like a switch was flipped as soon as Miami went up 10. Total meltdown.
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                                                            • eaglesfan44
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-25-18
                                                              • 140

                                                              #1255
                                                              Uhhh another one of those nights. Almost got a last minute point rally in the Illini game but they took too long to shoot on that last possesion
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                                                              • THam12
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-12-13
                                                                • 12640

                                                                #1256
                                                                Where were we on the sdsu-ipfw over. We're slipping banker.
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                                                                • 2daBank
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                                  • 88966

                                                                  #1257
                                                                  Wichita st/Memphis over 154.5
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #1258
                                                                    Originally posted by THam12
                                                                    Where were we on the sdsu-ipfw over. We're slipping banker.
                                                                    My day has been all kinds of busy and I didn’t cap whole card, just pick and choosing games to look at when I had time. Realizing my tail light, break light, blinker wernt working at 4 or whatever and having to deal with that screwed up the time i planned on having! Had to mess w wiring but all fixed now, priorities and all. Trying to cap the later starts now and see if I can find a few.
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                                                                    • eaglesfan44
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 11-25-18
                                                                      • 140

                                                                      #1259
                                                                      And Colorado matches the other 2 Hawai teams first half totals in the first 5 minutes of the game lol
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                                                                      • 2daBank
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #1260
                                                                        New Mexico st/cal bap over 143.5
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