Jimmy Butler to Philly.

[kingdom]

If they could trade for Vucevic & Fournier that would solve their two biggest problems.

But Magic thinks every FA is dying to come to LA...

lol i love watching those 2 guys play. i watch more magic games than a sensible person would. but lakers are playing for a ring this year or next. they need a championship caliber player that can get his own shot. i.e. kemba.

[kingdom]

I think they should keep Kuzma -I like him. They should trade Ingram. The difference between he & Beal is HUGE. I'm not sure on the figures but KCP would probably make the deal work...

is kuzma really consistent? i think josh hart can do some of what he can. Ingram has a lot of kd qualities and only getting better. he's not ready, but lebron is only a laker for possible four years. Ingram is gonna be a star well beyond that.

[IBetYou]

is kuzma really consistent? i think josh hart can do some of what he can. Ingram has a lot of kd qualities and only getting better. he's not ready, but lebron is only a laker for possible four years. Ingram is gonna be a star well beyond that.

Hart is a guard, Kuzma is a foward and a rare talent -his struggles can be attributed to playing out of position at the 5.

[jjgold]

Lebron does not have manybyears left

Each year he will regress some

[The Giant]

I think they should keep Kuzma -I like him. They should trade Ingram. The difference between he & Beal is HUGE. I'm not sure on the figures but KCP would probably make the deal work...

Ingram is such a wildcard. I agree that Kuzma looks better than him right now, but you have to remember Ingram is also two years younger. The Lakers keep waiting for him to make the next jump. I don't really care about KCP, but he is a Lebron guy. Same agent anyway.

[ikid2groove415]

Sorry 2 make this thread about the Lakers OP- but once again Lakers are losing games because of there defense - they can not stop anyone- they are averaging 118.5 points a game on offense - 2nd to the warriors in the western Confrence in scoring - giving up a whopping 119.2 on defense - untill they add some perimeter defense- they will not make the playoffs - oh and there best player Lebrenda? Does not give a dam about defense

[d2bets]

Lebron does not have manybyears left

Each year he will regress some

Eventually he will regress (hasn't yet) and depends what you mean by many. Nobody defies age forever.

I suspect he starts regressing within 2 years, but has up to 7 years left total.

[ans61201]

And 90% of the forum
Believed the rockets really offered 4 first round picks 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[gojetsgomoxies]

a few thoughts,

does butler fit with their already overcrowded duo of simmons/fultz? i think they should just move fultz for something they need right now. i think it's too many ball intensive players (and two of the key ballhanders can't/don't shoot)...... maybe should have sent fultz to minnesota instead (and of course compensation of either side would have to be adjusted)

butler has to now "shut up and play". can't be looking to 2019 or 2020 already..... basically needs to "walk the walk" (did ESPN say that?)

lakers need a good defensive big man. even one that doesn't participate that much in offense. i am shocked league hasn't valued the good defensive big man more. basically moneyball having good pg and defensive centre and generally go 3/D (maybe just 3 shooting) with the rest (of course you need backups and depth at all those roles)

[gojetsgomoxies]

And 90% of the forum
Believed the rockets really offered 4 first round picks 藍藍藍

i didn't think it made sense. but didn't have opinion as to whether it was true..... i was shocked the NBA might allow it. i understand keeping one pick every 2 years but i also thought there'd be restrictions on how far in the future you can trade them.

[gojetsgomoxies]

what has happened to KAT in Minnesota? i see articles saying butler is far superior player. but i thought KAT was considered a mega-talent and was breaking out last year

[ikid2groove415]

And 90% of the forum
Believed the rockets really offered 4 first round picks 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

And they auctually did - spread out in years not back 2 back 2 back 2 back 1st round picks - Minnesota got the better deal from Philadelphia- got 2 guys u can plug into the rotation and a 2nd round pick

[The Giant]

what has happened to KAT in Minnesota? i see articles saying butler is far superior player. but i thought KAT was considered a mega-talent and was breaking out last year

I think he'll look a lot better after this trade.

He's suddenly surrounded by lots of shooters.

[ans61201]

And they auctually did - spread out in years not back 2 back 2 back 2 back 1st round picks - Minnesota got the better deal from Philadelphia- got 2 guys u can plug into the rotation and a 2nd round pick

No and no lol all rumors to up offers. They would’ve accepted it immediately. Two rotation players on a non playoff team do nada

[GUMMO77]

Well he won't be missed in Minny.

[EyesWideShut]

Philly still wont beat boston when it comes down to it.


@ me when they do

[packerd_00]

And 90% of the forum
Believed the rockets really offered 4 first round picks 藍藍藍

The Wolves fans were bitching about it today,thinking they should have got more.I dont know thats fans for you,never happy with a trade.

[gojetsgomoxies]

The Wolves fans were bitching about it today,thinking they should have got more.I dont know thats fans for you,never happy with a trade.

the biggest problem with most fans' views of NBA trade value is that they simply look at the quality of the key player (in this case Butler) involved. or alternatively, they look at it like being in a fantasy sports pool..... but the biggest thing is that Butler will have alot of control over where he wants to play sooner rather than later. so depending on the circumstances, he can sign elsewhere and Wolves get nothing or perhaps a modest package back for him.

personally, i think we'll find that Butler is overrated and that the sixers are very badly constructed. butler has a nice balanced game but if he's ball-intensive, he doesn't have good shooters to pass to.

[d2bets]

the biggest problem with most fans' views of NBA trade value is that they simply look at the quality of the key player (in this case Butler) involved. or alternatively, they look at it like being in a fantasy sports pool..... but the biggest thing is that Butler will have alot of control over where he wants to play sooner rather than later. so depending on the circumstances, he can sign elsewhere and Wolves get nothing or perhaps a modest package back for him.

personally, i think we'll find that Butler is overrated and that the sixers are very badly constructed. butler has a nice balanced game but if he's ball-intensive, he doesn't have good shooters to pass to.

The Wolves had to trade him, only question really is whether this was the best they could get in return. I'm surprised they apparently couldn't get first round picks.

[packerd_00]

the biggest problem with most fans' views of NBA trade value is that they simply look at the quality of the key player (in this case Butler) involved. or alternatively, they look at it like being in a fantasy sports pool..... but the biggest thing is that Butler will have alot of control over where he wants to play sooner rather than later. so depending on the circumstances, he can sign elsewhere and Wolves get nothing or perhaps a modest package back for him.

personally, i think we'll find that Butler is overrated and that the sixers are very badly constructed. butler has a nice balanced game but if he's ball-intensive, he doesn't have good shooters to pass to.

I'm with you mate,I think the Wolves got a fair offer,given the circumstances.Fans will always think their player is worth more then he really is,like you said this isn't Fantasy Basketball.Think of the Teams that lost their star and got zip in return,theirs been plenty.

Waiting on a bunch of picks years from know isn't going to help even if that offer was on the table.

[d2bets]

I'm with you mate,I think the Wolves got a fair offer,given the circumstances.Fans will always think their player is worth more then he really is,like you said this isn't Fantasy Basketball.Think of the Teams that lost their star and got zip in return,theirs been plenty.

Waiting on a bunch of picks years from know isn't going to help even if that offer was on the table.

Sure it will. You have to be realistic. This Wolves team is going nowhere fast. Gathering first rounders is the best way to give yourself a future shot. That's what the Celtics did and how they turned it around. Amass picks and you can either use or trade them. Covington and Saric does nothing for them.

[BuckyOne]

Butler had the mindset that he was the King of the team - it was his team - Not sure KAT was willing to admit that and take advice from Butler's big mouth. I just do not believe Jimmy Butler is a team players and wish KAT would have told Jimmy Butler to stfu and punched him in the face a few times. He was very hard to play with - must have watched too many Lebron videos - ball stuck in his hands and then he bombed up crappy shots at the end of the shot clock. If Derrick Rose stays healthy - might be the best thing that ever happened to the Wolves??? I think he will try to do the same thing with the Sixers?

[ikid2groove415]

Sure it will. You have to be realistic. This Wolves team is going nowhere fast. Gathering first rounders is the best way to give yourself a future shot. That's what the Celtics did and how they turned it around. Amass picks and you can either use or trade them. Covington and Saric does nothing for them.

And butler will do nothing for philly - good move gambling on a guy that’s been traded twice in 3 years - there’s reason teams are trading this guy

[ikid2groove415]

Oh don’t forget everyone was so happy jimmy was going 2 Minnesota - and a year later he’s out dummies

[mngambler]

And butler will do nothing for philly - good move gambling on a guy that’s been traded twice in 3 years - there’s reason teams are trading this guy

100%...guys a cancer who thinks he can tell coaches when he wants days off...umm sorry Jimmy you aren't Lebron. Doesn't really do anything for either team like you said, Minnesota still a mediocre/below mediocre team who'll finish 12th in the West and Philly is an above average mediocre team who won't go anywhere in the playoffs and Butler will leave next year...big nothingburger this trade is

[Thrilla]

LeBron James says Jimmy Butler being traded to the Philadelphia 76ers was good for both sides and even though he already viewed the Sixers as a contender, the addition of Butler makes them even more of a threat.

[Thrilla]

Ben Simmons (0:00) tells the media he’s excited to play with Jimmy Butler on the Philadelphia 76ers and describes why he thinks Butler will be a good fit with the team. Joel Embiid (1:01) says the 76ers were impacted Saturday night vs. Memphis Grizzlies because they were shorthanded, and discusses how Butler will mesh with his new teammates in Philadelphia. T.J. McConnell (3:03) describes how he heard about the trade and how his teammates were “shocked” about it.

Stephen A. Smith reacts to Jimmy Butler being traded from the Minnesota Timberwolves to the Philadelphia 76ers.

[Thor4140]

Sure it will. You have to be realistic. This Wolves team is going nowhere fast. Gathering first rounders is the best way to give yourself a future shot. That's what the Celtics did and how they turned it around. Amass picks and you can either use or trade them. Covington and Saric does nothing for them.

Boston has a guy that knows how to pick talent. MOst teams don't. As you can see with Philly and the massive amount of picks they had over the last few years they picked one bum after the other. They ended up with two real talents out of all those picks and this Fultz pick is more and more looking like it was an awful pick. Who would have thought that with all the wins he racked up in college. I think he won an impressive 9 his last year.

[Chief Wahoo]

I agree with this. Have lost a few games on this team already this year. Had to pray Redick or Embiid would get the ball as the others were worthless offensively. I guess Butler has to help especially during crunch time.

Phila roster cannot shoot they are not winning.

[Thor4140]

This is an excellent trade. Covington shows up once every five games and Saric is just Saric. Nothing special. 2nd round picks are a joke in the NBA. Heck even most first round picks are jokes.

[MiDNiTe]

No chance butler leaves philly besides overating himself he is greedy he was desperate for trade to qualify for the extra max dollars

[packerd_00]

Sure it will. You have to be realistic. This Wolves team is going nowhere fast. Gathering first rounders is the best way to give yourself a future shot. That's what the Celtics did and how they turned it around. Amass picks and you can either use or trade them. Covington and Saric does nothing for them.

The Timberwolves have never been able to do much with their picks though to be honest,sure theyve managed to draft some nice talent over the years,but have never been able to really put it all together.

The Celtics are a diffrent kettle of fish all together,theyve had some bad seasons to be sure,but they are a wnning franchise,that have made the most of their draft choices.

[d2bets]

This is an excellent trade. Covington shows up once every five games and Saric is just Saric. Nothing special. 2nd round picks are a joke in the NBA. Heck even most first round picks are jokes.

Exactly. And if for some reason it proves a horrible fit, they can walk away and won't have given anything special. OTOH, it may be a great fit and Butler is a near-superstar talent that they can extend.

It's a very good risk for Philly. For Minny, they did have to deal him, but it's just puzzling they couldn't get better.

[d2bets]

The Timberwolves have never been able to do much with their picks though to be honest,sure theyve managed to draft some nice talent over the years,but have never been able to really put it all together.

The Celtics are a diffrent kettle of fish all together,theyve had some bad seasons to be sure,but they are a wnning franchise,that have made the most of their draft choices.

I mean I agree, the pups aren't going anywhere. But this just assures it. At least with picks ya never know what you might find.